How is Brent Burns playing all these minutes at over 60% o zone starts?

Let's do that with Risto
- jcragcrumple

Because Brent Burns is actually great offensively.

Jesus Christ we’re comparing a 40 point player to an 80 point one

Because Brent Burns is actually great offensively.

Jesus Christ we’re comparing a 40 point player to an 80 point one
- sbroads24

The purpose of the comparison is to demonstrate that proper useage gets the most out of players. Offensive defensmen need to be used like that

We don't know what burns would be like in Risto's position because their coach is smart enough not to try

Because Brent Burns is actually great offensively.

Jesus Christ we’re comparing a 40 point player to an 80 point one
- sbroads24

too lazy to look, but I would be curious what ristos stats were in the second half of the year vs the first half when dahlin was sheltered

my guess is 2/3 of his points came in the first half

You went cheaper than expected.
- dadeadhead

I like his beard.

If there is a sense of continuity I guess?

Players like him, hopefully they play hard for him.

Sounds like the Swede, his assistant and 1 more coach?

Lindy r perhaps?
- Boss34

I don't see Lindy coming back but ya never know.

too lazy to look, but I would be curious what ristos stats were in the second half of the year vs the first half when dahlin was sheltered

my guess is 2/3 of his points came in the first half
- homiedclown

25 points thru the 1st 41 gp he played in

He played in 78 games

25 points in the 1st 39
18 points in the 2nd half

58% to 42%

How is Brent Burns playing all these minutes at over 60% o zone starts?

Let's do that with Risto
- jcragcrumple

Brent Burns is a 33 year old converted F.

Risto is 24 with all the ability in the world to be an elite all-purpose defenseman. When he's playing his best hockey, he is the Sabres best defensive option (admitted that it's a horrendous group). This thread doesn't die because we all see the potential, and then experience the frustration.

The purpose of the comparison is to demonstrate that proper useage gets the most out of players. Offensive defensmen need to be used like that

We don't know what burns would be like in Risto's position because their coach is smart enough not to try
- jcragcrumple

Like Burns' seven years in Minnesota when he only hit 40 points twice?

Like Burns' seven years in Minnesota when he only hit 40 points twice?
- adambuffalo

Ut oh.

Like Burns' seven years in Minnesota when he only hit 40 points twice?
- adambuffalo

Different style of play by a wide margin.

Minny compared to SJ

25 points thru the 1st 41 gp he played in

He played in 78 games

25 points in the 1st 39
18 points in the 2nd half

58% to 42%
- dadeadhead

He saved himself with 4 points in his last 3 games.

Had a stretch of 3 points in 23 games when off of PP1 (to be fair the whole team was garbage)

Like Burns' seven years in Minnesota when he only hit 40 points twice?
- adambuffalo

So the real lesson is wait another 3 years, move him to forward, trade him and then watch him flourish

Like Burns' seven years in Minnesota when he only hit 40 points twice?
- adambuffalo

The Sabres should put Risto up at LW for a season, he's not good at defense but he's a good player.


Dahlin - Nelson - filthy


Montour - Pilut - word


McCabe - Rochester call up/one of the old guys that isn't injured still on contract.

So the real lesson is wait another 3 years, move him to forward, trade him and then watch him flourish
- sbroads24

you make ugly cock plans

The mental gymnastics is hilarious.

Comparing Burns to Risto.

That’s like saying give Larsson 80% O zone starts an watch him become Bergeron

So the real lesson is wait another 3 years, move him to forward, trade him and then watch him flourish
- sbroads24

(Or maybe just keep him and use him properly here.)

you make ugly cock plans
- washedup20

Where does your company get the Stel-cor piles from. I know I company here in Webster that's big into that product.

25 points thru the 1st 41 gp he played in

He played in 78 games

25 points in the 1st 39
18 points in the 2nd half

58% to 42%
- dadeadhead

man it's frustrating with him
I mean he is 24 now

He saved himself with 4 points in his last 3 games.

Had a stretch of 3 points in 23 games when off of PP1 (to be fair the whole team was garbage)
- sbroads24

Reducing a player's role can have a negative effect on their game. We've seen it many times.

(Or maybe just keep him and use him properly here.)
- Der Kaiser

Sure. But don’t expect Brent Burns or Erik Karlsson because that potential waived bye-bye a long time ago

Brent Burns is a 33 year old converted F.

Risto is 24 with all the ability in the world to be an elite all-purpose defenseman. When he's playing his best hockey, he is the Sabres best defensive option (admitted that it's a horrendous group). This thread doesn't die because we all see the potential, and then experience the frustration.
- Lunaion

My girlfriend constantly says this

Reducing a player's role can have a negative effect on their game. We've seen it many times.
- Lunaion

It all depends on what you use to judge a player.

Those who use point totals will be very disappointed

Where does your company get the Stel-cor piles from. I know I company here in Webster that's big into that product.
- Der Kaiser

That company, they had their reps here a month or so ago. Fat stacks in that market ATM

It all depends on what you use to judge a player.

Those who use point totals will be very disappointed
- sbroads24

A pissed off Risto can go a few different ways. I think we saw disinterest for most of the second half.

if you could swap risto for another d man even up and have them for the next 3 years


how many d men would you make the swap?

20?40?
60?
80?

my guess would be somewhere between 40 and 60