Yeah, I agree with Lunion above.

If GMJB doesn't sign him, another GM with playoff aspirations will happily do so if he goes UFA. All of our trade assets are devalued by these terrible seasons so that puts GMJB in a tough spot.

But the trite and simplistic look (that player x point totals equal their total value to a team)is nonsense if you look at the way playoff teams are constructed.

That said, we've seen Zemgus does have some offensive upside that for whatever reason hasn't been evident recently.

Sorry I'm late

Yeah, I agree with Lunion above.

If GMJB doesn't sign him, another GM with playoff aspirations will happily do so if he goes UFA. All of our trade assets are devalued by these terrible seasons so that puts GMJB in a tough spot.

But the trite and simplistic look (that player x point totals equal their total value to a team)is nonsense if you look at the way playoff teams are constructed.

That said, we've seen Zemgus does have some offensive upside that for whatever reason hasn't been evident recently.
- notalent

He actually almost tied his best P/60 this year. The difference between this year and his super sophomore season (where he actually played 10 fewer games than this year) is power play time and 200 additional minutes of playing time. This is Zemgus

If i may dust off this 'ol chestnut from the great ROR flamewar of 2018: "He's not part of the problem, but he's not part of the solution either."
- jcragcrumple

It's not at all a big deal but you misplaced your apostrophe.

It's not at all a big deal but you misplaced your apostrophe.
- Der Kaiser

I was abbreviating "cool chestnut." Yup, that's the ticket.

Bogo is the name of the house music club on top of the mountain
- washedup20

DON'T YOU DARE RUIN HOUSE MUSIC FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can use Happy Hardcore for your reference.

He actually almost tied his best P/60 this year. The difference between this year and his super sophomore season (where he actually played 10 fewer games than this year) is power play time and 200 additional minutes of playing time. This is Zemgus
- jcragcrumple

So what you're saying is he scored 36.3% more points in 11 fewer games his sophomore season?

I call that a potential offensive upside.

Shrugs.

DON'T YOU DARE RUIN HOUSE MUSIC FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can use Happy Hardcore for your reference.
- jochfr

Is Headphone Activist considered house music?

So what you're saying is he scored 36.3% more points in 11 fewer games his sophomore season?

I call that a potential offensive upside.

Shrugs.
- notalent

He played 200 more minutes than this year, in 10 fewer games. That's almost 3 minutes more a game over 71 games. So if he played 16 minutes a night, with PP time, we could expect him to match his sophomore numbers

meh, who really cares if he stays or goes... 4th liner... Fix the top 6 first.....

We can't get rid of Girgensons, the hype was just... so much.

Enjoy, all.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...hp?thread_id=99208&page=2

We finished 27th in the NHL with Girgs, Sobotka, Larsson, Scandella, Bogo, Wilson, Hunwick, Nelson and Risto in our lineup. My vote is to punt all of them. However, i am only punting Risto if he brings back an equal or better payback - re: RD top 4 or Top 6 Forward.

I didn't put Leino or Erhoff on that mountain because they weren't part of The Tank

I didn't put Leino or Erhoff on that mountain because they weren't part of The Tank
- RippedFuel

They were the reason for the tank. The organization switched to the Rangers model and tried to buy their way in....these were their guys, which forced a tank.

- SabresFaninIndiana

Forsberg went one pick ahead of him too. Should of lost one or two more games

What a shock fox to the rangers

😏

We can't get rid of Girgensons, the hype was just... so much.

Enjoy, all.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...hp?thread_id=99208&page=2
- TheSabresTaco

And that Eric near Buffalo is in jail 🤔

this is exactly why I am open to traded the later first round pick


good chance we have another bottom 6 player

move it for a top 6 player or a piece to get a quality d man


what would mccabe and our later 1st round pick get?
- homiedclown

depends upon the draft and what you're looking for...there were some good players picked after gus but it wasn't an overall outstanding draft by any stretch

Yeah, I agree with Lunion above.

If GMJB doesn't sign him, another GM with playoff aspirations will happily do so if he goes UFA. All of our trade assets are devalued by these terrible seasons so that puts GMJB in a tough spot.

But the trite and simplistic look (that player x point totals equal their total value to a team)is nonsense if you look at the way playoff teams are constructed.

That said, we've seen Zemgus does have some offensive upside that for whatever reason hasn't been evident recently.
- notalent

84.7% defensive zone starts

Larsson--84.4
Berglund--79.8

all the rest, beginning with Sobotka, 67.5% or lower

depends upon the draft and what you're looking for...there were some good players picked after gus but it wasn't an overall outstanding draft by any stretch
- Michael Pachla

odds are if a guy up front, be lucky if he produces like Gus

d men and goalies, 50% chance they have an ok nhl career


trade the pick to vegas and fleece them

odds are if a guy up front, be lucky if he produces like Gus

d men and goalies, 50% chance they have an ok nhl career


trade the pick to vegas and fleece them
- homiedclown

am not opposed to trading that pick, ala the trade for Montour...I could also see them using it dependent upon how deep the draft is...and, dependent upon where they lane, i'd take spence knight in a heartbeat if he was available...

maybe a mid-latter first-rounder is all about versatility and having the brains maximize it

84.7% defensive zone starts

Larsson--84.4
Berglund--79.8

all the rest, beginning with Sobotka, 67.5% or lower
- Michael Pachla

It was just a strange team all around. For whatever reason, we pretend Mitts was a 2C, Larsson a 4C, and ERod wasn't used enough. The real problem is that no one played well enough to earn the 2C role, so we played 3 third lines almost evenly. Mitts/Sheary take a hit because they weren't trusted to play any defense.

Even Strength TOI
ERod 12:48
Sobotka 12:11
Larsson 11:53
Mitts 11:41

It was just a strange team all around. For whatever reason, we pretend Mitts was a 2C, Larsson a 4C, and ERod wasn't used enough. The real problem is that no one played well enough to earn the 2C role, so we played 3 third lines almost evenly. Mitts/Sheary take a hit because they weren't trusted to play any defense.

Even Strength TOI
ERod 12:48
Sobotka 12:11
Larsson 11:53
Mitts 11:41
- Lunaion

Housley's bizarre reliance on Sobotka did as much to get him fired as anything else

Going a step further, Housley's personnel useage, line making/juggling and in-game useage of his players played a large part in getting him fired. I wouldn't say those times are indicative of anything but a lost coach

Have we settled the West side Jesus or Jesus Jesus issue?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Housley's bizarre reliance on Sobotka did as much to get him fired as anything else

Going a step further, Housley's personnel useage, line making/juggling and in-game useage of his players played a large part in getting him fired. I wouldn't say those times are indicative of anything but a lost coach
- jcragcrumple

he just in way over his head