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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:37 AM ET
Joe B's take on the RBs.

Biggest Strength: Power in numbers
- After having a steep drop-off in production from 2017 to 2018, the running back roster is almost entirely different from what we witnessed last season. Primary backup Chris Ivory was released, and the Bills signed two free agents (Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon) that could factor into the carries equation. And finally, at long last, the Bills drafted a running back (Devin Singletary) for the first time since 2016. The Bills have been trying to get by with a combination of LeSean McCoy and just making it up as they go along, but the team invested in youth at the position to get with the times of the NFL. McCoy returns, and with four suitable running backs available for carries, the Bills have all the makings to become more like a New England style of the backfield -- a committee approach that features different players based solely on the game plan. It's what offensive coordinator Brian Daboll has grown accustomed to in his time in the NFL, and it could be set up that way for Buffalo in 2019

It sucks for fantasy, but that style worked out great for them, deploying different types of RBs to wreck the opposition's game plans.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 1 @ 10:37 AM ET
The story hasn't faltered since day 1. There's "mutual interest". That's more than anyone can say about Bread N Bob
- TheSabresTaco



Just because a gm has nothing to say, so he says" we have mutual interest "

How much better is that, then a player focusing on the playoffs and playing well? Dushane

These guys say what we want to hear- actually

More like: they said what YOU want to hear
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 1 @ 10:38 AM ET
Where is duchene on the free agent pay scale?

7 x 10 ?

- Boss34


That's crazy money. I'd rather go 5 years/$30m on Hayes
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
Just because a gm has nothing to say, so he says" we have mutual interest "

How much better is that, then a player focusing on the playoffs and playing well? Dushane

These guys say what we want to hear- actually

More like: they said what YOU want to hear

- Boss34


His agent said the same thing. So.. this is false.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Is that 7M x 10 or 7 by 10M?
- JVince11


Under the cba , I think the max ufa contract is 7 years.

8 if the player is on your team

If skinner is looking at 9, I would think dushane is looking at more then that total.

Basically eichel $
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
Joe B's take on the RBs.

Biggest Strength: Power in numbers
- After having a steep drop-off in production from 2017 to 2018, the running back roster is almost entirely different from what we witnessed last season. Primary backup Chris Ivory was released, and the Bills signed two free agents (Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon) that could factor into the carries equation. And finally, at long last, the Bills drafted a running back (Devin Singletary) for the first time since 2016. The Bills have been trying to get by with a combination of LeSean McCoy and just making it up as they go along, but the team invested in youth at the position to get with the times of the NFL. McCoy returns, and with four suitable running backs available for carries, the Bills have all the makings to become more like a New England style of the backfield -- a committee approach that features different players based solely on the game plan. It's what offensive coordinator Brian Daboll has grown accustomed to in his time in the NFL, and it could be set up that way for Buffalo in 2019

It sucks for fantasy, but that style worked out great for them, deploying different types of RBs to wreck the opposition's game plans.

- TheSabresTaco

the bigger thing is fixing the o line

doesn't matter who is in the backfield, they fix the line then they will probably be a fringe top 10 offense if allen progresses

of course if they keep shady, they need to dress 4 hb's
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
That's crazy money. I'd rather go 5 years/$30m on Hayes
- jcragcrumple

Welp if that happens Botts should be fired that day

He’s a 4m player Hopefully we won’t be that sucker team that gives him 6 m
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 1 @ 10:45 AM ET
His agent said the same thing. So.. this is false.
- TheSabresTaco


Just because his agent said the same thing, doesn't mean my statement is false.

You could be right



Probably not
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:46 AM ET
the bigger thing is fixing the o line

doesn't matter who is in the backfield, they fix the line then they will probably be a fringe top 10 offense if allen progresses

of course if they keep shady, they need to dress 4 hb's

- homiedclown


The Pats can suck my ass, but they dressed 4 RBs to play offense last season. Patterson played downs and ST. I'd say 3 would be perfect, but if 4's the way you do it... welp.. go for it.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
Welp if that happens Botts should be fired that day

He’s a 4m player Hopefully we won’t be that sucker team that gives him 6 m

- gerbe75pts


55p in 71gp gets him more than $4m. dems de facts
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just because his agent said the same thing, doesn't mean my statement is false.

You could be right



Probably not

- Boss34


So I'm "probably not" right because Jason Botterill, numerous qualified media sources and Jeff Skinner's agent have all repeatedly said there's mutual interest in getting a contract done. Alrite.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just because his agent said the same thing, doesn't mean my statement is false.

You could be right



Probably not

- Boss34[
/quote]


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
55p in 71gp gets him more than $4m. dems de facts
- jcragcrumple


Yep, even as a winger he'd get more than 4. Now include play driving, his possession metrics, faceoff ability and 200' play. And you're looking at 6.5-7.5. It's a tough pill to swallow at 7.5, but... FA.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
55p in 71gp gets him more than $4m. dems de facts
- jcragcrumple


I wouldn’t pay him over that he’s a drew Stafford average player he will just be another boat Anchor on this team
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:50 AM ET
[quote=Boss34]Just because his agent said the same thing, doesn't mean my statement is false.

You could be right



Probably not

- gerbe75pts[
/quote]




He enjoys trying to get under my skin. So be it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
I wouldn’t pay him over that he’s a drew Stafford average player he will just be another boat Anchor on this team
- gerbe75pts


wat
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Just because his agent said the same thing, doesn't mean my statement is false.

You could be right



Probably not

- Boss34



“You could be right. Probably not.” Is about as good as poop gets around here. It’s the equivalent of calling someone “IDIOT” but kinda politely.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
“You could be right. Probably not.” Is about as good as poop gets around here. It’s the equivalent of calling someone “IDIOT” but kinda politely.
- Der Kaiser


your a moran
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
wat
- TheSabresTaco


Yes he’s at level of a drew Stafford when he was “good” to “average “ he doesn’t deserve 7m or 6m the rangers knew it that’s why they shipped him out . He’s just going to be Another player that gets overpaid because of the “center” word
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
I wouldn’t pay him over that he’s a drew Stafford average player he will just be another boat Anchor on this team
- gerbe75pts


That boat anchor would be the 4th best forward on this team by a pretty sizeable margin. These things are relative
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
That boat anchor would be the 4th best forward on this team by a pretty sizeable margin. These things are relative
- jcragcrumple


Cool let him be a 6m player somewhere else

If he wanted 4.5 he can come here and center the 3rd line but some team will pay him like he’s a 2nd line or 1st center
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

May 1 @ 11:03 AM ET
I just don't see any of the big name UFA's having interest in Buffalo. And Dzingel played college hockey at Ohio State so gotta think he'll want to sign there. Columbus will want Duchene if they lose Panarin.

I would rather see us trade for a 2C.

- mhp

Not that Dzingel is a guy I would be targeting, but in Columbus he is getting 4th line minutes and in game 1 and 3 of this series he had the least ice time of all CBus skaters. Game 2 he was a healthy scratch.
Not so sure he'd be interested in signing long term there. May not be a Torts kind of player.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 1 @ 11:04 AM ET
Yes he’s at level of a drew Stafford when he was “good” to “average “ he doesn’t deserve 7m or 6m the rangers knew it that’s why they shipped him out . He’s just going to be Another player that gets overpaid because of the “center” word
- gerbe75pts


The reality of this league is that centers are paid more than their peers on the wings. A 60 point center will probably get paid more 95% of the time than a 60 point W. Especially if both players are equally as reliable in both ends.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 1 @ 11:04 AM ET
Cool let him be a 6m player somewhere else

If he wanted 4.5 he can come here and center the 3rd line but some team will pay him like he’s a 2nd line or 1st center

- gerbe75pts


He would be our second line center
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 1 @ 11:04 AM ET
Not that Dzingel is a guy I would be targeting, but in Columbus he is getting 4th line minutes and in game 1 and 3 of this series he had the least ice time of all CBus skaters. Game 2 he was a healthy scratch.
Not so sure he'd be interested in signing long term there. May not be a Torts kind of player.

- adambuffalo


Bring me Dzingel for 4m please
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