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SABRES 89
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Apr 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
Well they have had lots of practice. Years of practice.
- c1067

More like decades.
Stripes77
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Apr 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
The longer it drags on the more obvious is that we are gonna try to pouch some young assistant from a team in the playoffs right?
- JVince11



Or the Swede who is focused on the World Championships
JVince11
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Apr 29 @ 1:28 PM ET
I think the most realistic guy we can afford and have the peices to target is Vincent Trocheck down in FLA. Had a rough year dealing with injuries so he can be had cheap, I think.

Im talking realistic and makes sense. If they really are the top choice for Bobrovsky and Panarin, they need to consider their cap and structure.

We can and should consider it and I don't even think we would have to give up Risto.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Florida would sure have to move a ton of money to make that happen. Especially in goal. Luongo at 40 is signed at 4.5M for another 3 years and Reimer is signed at 3.1M for another 2 years
SABRES 89
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Apr 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Florida would sure have to move a ton of money to make that happen. Especially in goal. Luongo at 40 is signed at 4.5M for another 3 years and Reimer is signed at 3.1M for another 2 years
- JVince11

Luongo is the one that's screwing them, retire already. He's gonna be lucky if he play's 30 games.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
Detroit will be the new Tampa, just watch.
- SABRES 89


I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Tampa. He's a bum
JVince11
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Apr 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
Jcrags

I like
trouba and elers
For
Risto and Sam

How about trouba and connor
For Sam and risto.

Need a 2C

- Boss34


In both of those scenarios.... the players we are getting back are better than the 2 players we are giving up IMO. Can't see it.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 29 @ 1:32 PM ET
Luongo is the one that's screwing them, retire already. He's gonna be lucky if he play's 30 games.
- SABRES 89


You're not wrong... he's played 43, 35, and 40 over the last 3 seasons. With his GAA raising and S% dropping.
Boss34
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Apr 29 @ 1:32 PM ET
The longer it drags on the more obvious is that we are gonna try to pouch some young assistant from a team in the playoffs right?
- JVince11



Or we are waiting for the swedish coach?

They have to wait until the tournament is over to speak with him.

I'm %90 sure , they hire the swede
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Luongo is the one that's screwing them, retire already. He's gonna be lucky if he play's 30 games.
- SABRES 89


If he did retire, don't the Canucks get crushed by recapture? Wonder what goes on behind the scenes there.
Boss34
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Apr 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Conner seems like a Player they want to keep, I would rather keep Sam.
- SABRES 89



I'm sure Winnipeg loves Conner, that being said:

Peg might need to give to get.

I guess it depends on how they feel about laine.
Hes going to command eichel $

Sam really came into his own. In the middle of last season
Not sure if he has "playoff guy" written on him

Pretty ugly out there
JVince11
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Apr 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
If he did retire, don't the Canucks get crushed by recapture? Wonder what goes on behind the scenes there.
- Lunaion


Boss34
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Apr 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
In both of those scenarios.... the players we are getting back are better than the 2 players we are giving up IMO. Can't see it.
- JVince11



I tend to agree. Maybe we need to add the 7th pick?

I'm ready for the backlash
Stripes77
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Apr 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
Sam Reinhart playing for Canada at the Worlds as is Montour
SABRES 89
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Apr 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
I don't care what he did with a bunch of kids in Tampa. He's a bum
- jcragcrumple

Maybe one day you will post something that makes sense.
SABRES 89
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Apr 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
If he did retire, don't the Canucks get crushed by recapture? Wonder what goes on behind the scenes there.
- Lunaion

I think they do
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Apr 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
Winnipeg needs to decrease payroll to enable them to resign their RFA's. Dealing Trouba in a deal featuring the underwhelming Risto Ristolainen and his 5.4M cap hit does not help. Next
SABRES 89
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Apr 29 @ 1:41 PM ET

- JVince11

jcragcrumple
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Apr 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
Maybe one day you will post something that makes sense.
- SABRES 89


Maybe. With each passing day, it looks less likely
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 1:43 PM ET

- JVince11


Funny to imagine Van getting nailed with that 8m penalty.
SABRES 89
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Apr 29 @ 1:44 PM ET
Funny to imagine Van getting nailed with that 8m penalty.
- Lunaion

He's only hurting the Panthers by not retiring, both on the ice and cap wise.
JVince11
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Apr 29 @ 1:51 PM ET

- SABRES 89


Who else is still in this recapture penalty thing?

Pronger (PHI/ARZ)
Weber (PHI/NSH/MON how does that work since it was PHI's offer that NSH matched?)
Datsyuk (DET/ARZ)
Hossa (CHI/ARZ
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 1:54 PM ET
He's only hurting the Panthers by not retiring, both on the ice and cap wise.
- SABRES 89


I don't really care. Looking at those numbers, I'm just curious what kind of pressures are put on him by various parties. I can't imagine Van is just sitting around with their fingers crossed. When this ends with LTIR, I'll be disgusted and not at all surprised.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
Who else is still in this recapture penalty thing?

Pronger (PHI/ARZ)
Weber (PHI/NSH/MON how does that work since it was PHI's offer that NSH matched?)
Datsyuk (DET/ARZ)
Hossa (CHI/ARZ

- JVince11


Don't think any of them actually retired until their contracts were over, which is a joke.
Acup2buff
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Apr 29 @ 2:01 PM ET
Winnipeg needs to decrease payroll to enable them to resign their RFA's. Dealing Trouba in a deal featuring the underwhelming Risto Ristolainen and his 5.4M cap hit does not help. Next
- BernardShakey


Keep Ristolianen and wait until UFA opens. Why trade away a top 4 defenseman? Everyone needs to relax and look at the big picture;

Casey was playing a position that he was not ready for, a 2nd line player
A 18 year old phenomenon in Dahlin
the continued Decline of Okposo, and Bogosian
The career of Jason Pominville
Minimum 10 total players brought in before the start of 18-19
a minimum 15 players had been added to the roster for the overall season
the trade of Brandon Montour
The Firing of Phil Housley

IMO that's a lot to un-package over the course of 18 months. We have to give GMJB some time to fix what Murray left the franchise in. The success the Rochester should be welcoming for the future
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
Keep Ristolianen and wait until UFA opens. Why trade away a top 4 defenseman? Everyone needs to relax and look at the big picture;

Casey was playing a position that he was not ready for, a 2nd line player
A 18 year old phenomenon in Dahlin
the continued Decline of Okposo, and Bogosian
The career of Jason Pominville
Minimum 10 total players brought in before the start of 18-19
a minimum 15 players had been added to the roster for the overall season
the trade of Brandon Montour
The Firing of Phil Housley

IMO that's a lot to un-package over the course of 18 months. We have to give GMJB some time to fix what Murray left the franchise in. The sucess the Rochester should be welcoming for ttthe future

- Acup2buff


What if Risto isn't in his long term plan? What if he knows that losing PP time and overall ice time will lower his production and this is an ideal time to get a quality return?

We still don't really know what JB's core looks like, beyond the obvious 2.
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