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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
please please please acquire victor rask
- BINGO!


Sure, but I'm not giving you much for him.

Oh wait, you're from Carolina lol... you got NN and still salty?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 25 @ 5:56 PM ET
UFA: Gustav Nyquist, Marcus Johansson, Brock Nelson, Anders Lee

Trade: Nazem Kadri, William Nylander, Sam Bennett, Tyler Johnson, Vincent Trochek, Victor Rask, Mikael Granlund

- Tomahawk



I feel like this is only half the conversation. I have varying interest in all of those players but what is the cost?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 25 @ 6:04 PM ET
I feel like this is only half the conversation. I have varying interest in all of those players but what is the cost?
- MJL


I personally wouldn't part for much to fill that 2C slot, since I feel like it's really only a super short term need. Frost and Patrick will fill it soon enough. Or you can just shuffle the lines and put Coots or G there.

If one of those players can be pried loose at relatively lower cost than usual, then I'm interested. If not, no problem.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:13 PM ET
I personally wouldn't part for much to fill that 2C slot, since I feel like it's really only a super short term need. Frost and Patrick will fill it soon enough. Or you can just shuffle the lines and put Coots or G there.

If one of those players can be pried loose at relatively lower cost than usual, then I'm interested. If not, no problem.

- Tomahawk


I'm with you on this. What are we going to give up a major piece for? A player who helps make us a playoff team? No thanks. I'll stay patient.

Suggestions of trading Gostisbehere for Kadri! LMAO and I like Kadri.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 25 @ 6:37 PM ET
Sure, but I'm not giving you much for him.

Oh wait, you're from Carolina lol... you got NN and still salty?

- Tomahawk


Nah Rask's a great guy he's just not very good and I'd love a division rival to get him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
amazing weather and great tax laws. not sure why its so funny
- nastyflyergirl


Makes you wonder how the Patriots are able to compete with the Dolphins.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 6:56 PM ET
Nylander, with whatever question marks he comes with, has Claude Giroux-level skill. The contract is huge, but he's 22. He has a history of producing at a high-end 2nd-line level. This could be the one and only chance to get him out of TO.

As for checking the AV 'vet' box, better to do that on defense, where they're looking for a vet anyway. The 2C needs to be fast, hungry and effective.

- Tomahawk

The contract isn't really that huge if you think he was Giroux-level skill which I don't disagree with. His cap hit for the next 5 years will be under 7 mil.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Apr 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
The weather in Florida sucks. Let’s stop bullpoopting around here and call a spade a spade. It’s the taxes and the women in Miami.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 25 @ 7:06 PM ET
The weather in Florida sucks. Let’s stop bullpoopting around here and call a spade a spade. It’s the taxes and the women in Miami.
- StepfordSam

^^^^

the weather was awesome for like the 1 week of spring that we had down here and it's just (frank)ing hot now. Late June-August is a (frank)ing nightmare.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 25 @ 7:34 PM ET
Who says no?!

To Philly: McDavid, Draisaitl
To Edmonton: Giroux, Voracek, Ghost, Provorov, Morin, ten first round picks, the Kate Smith statue.

- StepfordSam


Hell no im not including the statue. How about a Cd of the ten best renditions of Lauren Hart and Kate Smith duets singing GBA?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 25 @ 9:05 PM ET

FRANK YOU Plind.......
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Apr 25 @ 9:12 PM ET
Wow. The Giants organization is a goddamn embarrassment and Gettleman should be fired before he makes any more picks.

Wtf is this moron thinking?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 26 @ 2:23 AM ET
W0000 LETS GO EAGLES
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 26 @ 2:25 AM ET
Wow. The Giants organization is a goddamn embarrassment and Gettleman should be fired before he makes any more picks.

Wtf is this moron thinking?

- StepfordSam

maybe they still believe in Eli

BAHAHAHAHA I couldnt' say that with a straight face!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 26 @ 2:39 AM ET

FRANK YOU Plind.......

- KINGKENZO

it's (frank)ing hilarious Arizona, Raider, Giants... uh which other GMs were drunk at the draft
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 7:36 AM ET
I'm with you on this. What are we going to give up a major piece for? A player who helps make us a playoff team? No thanks. I'll stay patient.

Suggestions of trading Gostisbehere for Kadri! LMAO and I like Kadri.

- MJL


Kadri can be deployed as a shutdown center while banking 50 points. Not sure what’s so funny. Flyers fans typically overrate their own.

That filpulla presence that is missed? Kadri is that presence on steroids. I don’t care about the suspensions, it only drives his price down
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 7:58 AM ET
Kadri can be deployed as a shutdown center while banking 50 points. Not sure what’s so funny. Flyers fans typically overrate their own.

That filpulla presence that is missed? Kadri is that presence on steroids. I don’t care about the suspensions, it only drives his price down

- Just5


It's not about how good of a player Kadri is. Flyers fans typically suggest bad trades. This is one of those.
BadCowboyDan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.16.2017

Apr 26 @ 8:01 AM ET
Speaking of a veteran presence, why not look at a guy like Marleau for the third line, Toronto is in serious cap trouble and needs to shed contracts. One year left on it and probably could be had for cheap. This guy still skates well and is very respected.
- ClaudeFather


He has a NMC
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 8:02 AM ET
It's not about how good of a player Kadri is. Flyers fans typically suggest bad trades. This is one of those.
- MJL

All fanbases suggest bad trades to be fair.

But yes, hard pass on Kadri.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 8:09 AM ET
All fanbases suggest bad trades to be fair.

But yes, hard pass on Kadri.

- hereticpride


I have interest in Kadri but not for Gostisbehere.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 8:10 AM ET
He has a NMC
- BadCowboyDan


A player can choose to waive that.
BadCowboyDan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.16.2017

Apr 26 @ 8:11 AM ET
Maybe Kadri comes cheap if you take Marleau off their hands...
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 26 @ 8:13 AM ET
Nah Rask's a great guy he's just not very good and I'd love a division rival to get him.
- BINGO!


He IS good. He's been a Vezina winner and his career save percentage in over 500 NHL games is over 92%.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 26 @ 8:15 AM ET
All fanbases suggest bad trades to be fair.

But yes, hard pass on Kadri.

- hereticpride


I would only consider trading Ghost for a SOLID D man who could be trusted to play the last minute of a game. Who that is, I don't know. I would also like a physical player to play on that 4th line with Laughton and Hartman.
UFA's....Neilson, Lee, or Hayes could be worth a look
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 26 @ 8:17 AM ET
He IS good. He's been a Vezina winner and his career save percentage in over 500 NHL games is over 92%.
- bmeltzer


Victor Rask
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