Why did the Pens blogger just write a scathing blog about how Mike Babcock is a fraud. LMAO...
- PLindbergh31

Why does Pen's blogger blog? He's the most irrelevant writer this site has.

WHO SAYS NO?

To Winnipeg: Voracek, Gostisbehere, Gudas, 2019 3rd rounder

To Philadelphia: Trouba, Ehlers, Perreault

Does it work? Winnipeg has contracts coming due and I think they prefer Connor to Ehlers. Taking on Perreault clears money for them and also could give Flyers vet center.

Winnipeg gets two inexpensive defenders and Voracek who can slide onto the 2nd line with possibly Little and Laine.

Maybe just a little too NHL19

WHO SAYS NO?

To Winnipeg: Voracek, Gostisbehere, Gudas, 2019 3rd rounder

To Philadelphia: Trouba, Ehlers, Perreault

Does it work? Winnipeg has contracts coming due and I think they prefer Connor to Ehlers. Taking on Perreault clears money for them and also could give Flyers vet center.

Winnipeg gets two inexpensive defenders and Voracek who can slide onto the 2nd line with possibly Little and Laine.

Maybe just a little too NHL19
- J35Bacher

not sure the Flyers would consider this at all...

I'm probably more open to trading Jake than Ghost for the reasons you mentioned but at the same time I don't think we have the right mix of d men. Need a bigger guy who can hold his own in the top 4 imo. I think that's a lot to ask of Morin at this point in time.
- hereticpride

Eventually that guy will be Phil Myers. Maybe sooner than later.

I'd grab a guy like Coburn, who can still play a 4/5 role. If the kids need time, he's in the top-four. If the kids all meet expectations, you can bump him down to 6, or even scratch him.

Eventually that guy will be Phil Myers. Maybe sooner than later.

I'd grab a guy like Coburn, who can still play a 4/5 role. If the kids need time, he's in the top-four. If the kids all meet expectations, you can bump him down to 6, or even scratch him.
- Tomahawk

I'd be interested in Alex Edler if he is open to leaving Vancouver. Played for Vigneault. Still a pretty good player and could play in top 4.

I'd be interested in Alex Edler if he is open to leaving Vancouver. Played for Vigneault. Still a pretty good player and could play in top 4.
- J35Bacher

Adding Edler and a guy like Brock Nelson could go a long way for this team. Edler adds a new respected veteran presence to the Core, as does Brock but probably to a lesser extent. Two solid players that sure up our depth. Doubtful Edler leaves Vancouver though.

I'm probably more open to trading Jake than Ghost for the reasons you mentioned but at the same time I don't think we have the right mix of d men. Need a bigger guy who can hold his own in the top 4 imo. I think that's a lot to ask of Morin at this point in time.
- hereticpride

Depending then on whatever you'd get back for Jake, you then open up another hole in our top 6. With G, Coots, Konecny, JVR and Lindblom, you need another top 6 guy. And if you Keep G at LW, then JVR slots on a third line and you have now 2 open slots in the top 6.

Bad pick when it happened, and still a bad pick. Other better players were available instead

I'd be good with Nelson next year.

I do wonder how much ice time Gostisbehere ges next year. If they are serious on adding a vet defender to the top 4, who loses minutes? I think Myers will be in the top 4 so i think Gostisbehere's minutes will drop which could effect production then.
- J35Bacher

What I would like to see is Provy and Sanheim stay as a pairing, and place Myers with a guy like Edler. That would be your top 4. Edler knows AV, played and thrived for AV's system, and is a respected D man in the league. It remains to be seen if he even wants to leave Vancouver, as you could argue that Philly and Vancouver arent too far apart in terms of where they ended last year, which was one point a part. I think we have more talent, and shouldve been a playoff team, but the hole we dug was too much and we relied on a rookie goalie way more than he should have been.

At this point, you could go back to a pairing of Ghost and Gudas which I think is perfect as Gudas thrived in this role this year, and Ghost can have the pressure taken off of him as a top 4 guy. Additionally, later in games, having these guys as your third pairing, should easily be able create advantages against the third and fourth lines of the world, and even hold their own against teams scoring lines

PEB had to have had some sort of injury in game 6. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough, the guy has been a stalwart on that 4th line between Reaves and Carrier in his 2 years here. I never really appreciated all that he did when he was with the Flyers and maybe that was because i was all caught up in the Flyerdom negativity.

There's no way Gallant sits him in game 7 if he wasn't hurt. He's a favorite of the coach. It's pretty sad to think that might have been his last game as a Knight, but if it was i hope he gets into another great situation for himself.
- Yosimar89

Only thing i can think of, had to be an injury. and its a shame because he missed exactly what his forte is and what they paid him for.

Only thing i can think of, had to be an injury. and its a shame because he missed exactly what his forte is and what they paid him for.
- sjk540

If it wasn’t an injury...

I think everyone is a little baffled with no timeout after the first or second goal.

The update on O’Brien

https://www.philly.com/fl...8-nhl-draft-20190424.html

What I would like to see is Provy and Sanheim stay as a pairing, and place Myers with a guy like Edler. That would be your top 4. Edler knows AV, played and thrived for AV's system, and is a respected D man in the league. It remains to be seen if he even wants to leave Vancouver, as you could argue that Philly and Vancouver arent too far apart in terms of where they ended last year, which was one point a part. I think we have more talent, and shouldve been a playoff team, but the hole we dug was too much and we relied on a rookie goalie way more than he should have been.

At this point, you could go back to a pairing of Ghost and Gudas which I think is perfect as Gudas thrived in this role this year, and Ghost can have the pressure taken off of him as a top 4 guy. Additionally, later in games, having these guys as your third pairing, should easily be able create advantages against the third and fourth lines of the world, and even hold their own against teams scoring lines
- sjk540

I assume MacDonald is gone. So if they bring in Edler (or other vet D) that leaves two players as odd men out. Morin and Hagg most likely. Are they really gonna sit Morin just to play a good not great veteran D man? I hope not. I'd rather see what Morin has.

I assume MacDonald is gone. So if they bring in Edler (or other vet D) that leaves two players as odd men out. Morin and Hagg most likely. Are they really gonna sit Morin just to play a good not great veteran D man? I hope not. I'd rather see what Morin has.
- mickel25

I know they won't do it but I want them to find a new home for Macdonald and roll with the 7 D they have now.

Why does Pen's blogger blog? He's the most irrelevant writer this site has.
- Pelle31Forever

Garth says hello

I know they won't do it but I want them to find a new home for Macdonald and roll with the 7 D they have now.
- FlyerFan16

I would prefer that as well with Hagg as the 7th defender.

If they can upgrade great. Edler is not that much of an upgrade that I would block minutes for Morin.

Of course, maybe they do not think Morin is worthy of an extended look. We will see.

I would prefer that as well with Hagg as the 7th defender.

If they can upgrade great. Edler is not that much of an upgrade that I would block minutes for Morin.

Of course, maybe they do not think Morin is worthy of an extended look. We will see.
- mickel25

I just don't see why we would go into the season thinking this kid has a spot. We have no idea if he will be able to hang at the NHL level. Bring someone in and if the kid beats them out great. I'd like to be as competitive as possible, enough with the developing and waiting crap lets win some damn games jesus.

I just don't see why we would go into the season thinking this kid has a spot. We have no idea if he will be able to hang at the NHL level. Bring someone in and if the kid beats them out great. I'd like to be as competitive as possible, enough with the developing and waiting crap lets win some damn games jesus.
- ClaudeFather

I mostly agree with you. Morin will no doubt have to earn playing time. I just don't want to bring in a "vet" that's just there to be a vet. Just keep MacDonald if that is all you are going to do. I want an upgrade or just go with what you have. Edler is not much of an upgrade in my book.

I mostly agree with you. Morin will no doubt have to earn playing time. I just don't want to bring in a "vet" that's just there to be a vet. Just keep MacDonald if that is all you are going to do. I want an upgrade or just go with what you have. Edler is not much of an upgrade in my book.
- mickel25

I see what you are saying but he would be an upgrade. I know +- is not the best dictator of play but this guy was logging ~24 minutes a game on a bad team and was +3. He could be a great addition to our second pair.

I would prefer that as well with Hagg as the 7th defender.

If they can upgrade great. Edler is not that much of an upgrade that I would block minutes for Morin.

Of course, maybe they do not think Morin is worthy of an extended look. We will see.
- mickel25

Actually Edler is a complete upgrade over a guy like Morin. Morin hasn't played a full season since 2017. He has had some injuries that have slowed his growth. I feel like he needs to play at least half of a season being a top pairing guy on the phantoms before he can get a full look up here.

Edler on the other hand is a 13 year vet, who just turned 33, and had 34 points in 56 games last year, while being a plus 3 on a subpar Vancouver team. He has played in the postseaon 7 different times, including 5 straight seasons with AV as his coach. He puts up around 30 points a year, plays a responsible game, and can be used in all situations, although at this point in his career i would rather limit his special teams use and let Ghost, Provy, Sanheim, Gudas, and Myers plug those holes.

If we go in with 3 pairings of Sanheim-Provy, Edler-Myers, Ghost-Gudas, we would be 100% better than last year, especially that he wouldn't break the bank, and already knows AV's system. We could then sign a top 6 forward or two and still have the money to sign our RFA's in the next several years.

bonus: as an UFA, we don't have to give up any assets and we have the cap space to do so.

I mostly agree with you. Morin will no doubt have to earn playing time. I just don't want to bring in a "vet" that's just there to be a vet. Just keep MacDonald if that is all you are going to do. I want an upgrade or just go with what you have. Edler is not much of an upgrade in my book.
- mickel25

Over who, AMac? Are you kidding me? please just compare the numbers, compare the advanced stats, everything points to Edler being a huge upgrade over AMac. and edler plays against top lines with these numbers, Amac is a turn style against other teams top lines, which is why he is sheltered on the third pairing. Is it any coincidence that when he was with Provy, Provy underlying numbers were all brought down across the board? Im shocked that you wouldnt take a guy like Edler over Amac.

Actually Edler is a complete upgrade over a guy like Morin. Morin hasn't played a full season since 2017. He has had some injuries that have slowed his growth. I feel like he needs to play at least half of a season being a top pairing guy on the phantoms before he can get a full look up here.

Edler on the other hand is a 13 year vet, who just turned 33, and had 34 points in 56 games last year, while being a plus 3 on a subpar Vancouver team. He has played in the postseaon 7 different times, including 5 straight seasons with AV as his coach. He puts up around 30 points a year, plays a responsible game, and can be used in all situations, although at this point in his career i would rather limit his special teams use and let Ghost, Provy, Sanheim, Gudas, and Myers plug those holes.

If we go in with 3 pairings of Sanheim-Provy, Edler-Myers, Ghost-Gudas, we would be 100% better than last year, especially that he wouldn't break the bank, and already knows AV's system. We could then sign a top 6 forward or two and still have the money to sign our RFA's in the next several years.

bonus: as an UFA, we don't have to give up any assets and we have the cap space to do so.
- sjk540

So you are ready to give up on Morin with out seeing what he can really do at this level? I'm not. 6,7" defense that can skate and play with snarl don't come along very often. Cause by this point we all know that he has to clear waivers and will never get anywhere near the Phantoms.
#freesammy

Bad pick when it happened, and still a bad pick. Other better players were available instead
- twpguy

Yup, Hextall should have taken Rantanen, not Provorov.

Dan Hedaya in cheers is comic gold

6,7" defense that can skate and play with snarl don't come along very often.
- jaws1955

It's not that rare, believe it or not.

Pro leagues are full of big dudes who can skate, are mean, but just aren't that good.

(Jamie Oleksiak, Andrej Sustr, Chris Breen, Jaycob Megna, Boris Valabik, Dylan McIlrath, Ben Harpur, etc.)

Morin's gotta show he's got enough hockey sense and puck skill to survive. Otherwise, he's just another (huge) footnote in NHL draft history.