Talked to a couple Jets fans after game 6. They were so nice and told me they hope we win the cup. So freaking classy (not like hawks and preds fans for sure!)! What a great series!

Byfuglien going to Tampa Bay makes the most sense. The Jets are going to be in a retool and the best way to jump start that is to trade a 34 year old Byfuglien. I think Byfuglien for Sergachev and Stralman should be enough to get it done.

Tampa Bay could use Byfuglien for a cup run.
- TheUltimateJet

Live here in Tampa and have season tickets. Sergachev is very over rated. Bolts should have drafted Seth Jones when they had the chance. Sergachev easily lost out there.

I agree that Maurice was the reason in the Jets weak play the last 2 months. He has to go.
Why worry about having only 3 picks on the draft when Maurice refuses to use any of their NHL ready draft and develop players.
Next year will Poolman, Appleton, Vesailinen, Niku, Stanley, Spacek, Harkins, Nogier and Samberg get a fair chance at making the team. Not with Maurice as coach.
If the Jets resign Myers then Trouba will be traded at the draft. There is at least a dozen teams that will line up to trade for him and this could bring a true #2 center plus a #1 draft choice, or better.
If Buff is traded he also would bring the Jets a #2 center and a #1 draft choice, or better.
I don't expect Maurice will lose his job as Chevy is very loyal and a GM that doesn't rush to make changes, but I hope in firing Maurice he does break precedent.

Preds will be joining you shortly at the golf course.

In business if you have a massive failure in achievement - as I count our 1st round exit as being - you conduct a review to identify performance gaps (as, Pistol Pete, you have initiated in this post)

The first tricky part is you usually bring in a new set of eyes or more to "assist" with the review ... you don't simply go to those who ushered the failure and ask what went wrong - they are motivated to soften the messages - or - may not understand how they failed

This is never welcomed by the incumbent management team ... too f_ckin bad - this is a big boy business

So my question is - who are the hockey people out there that can 'assist' ? ... that's where I would start ... this is ownership stuff - initiated from up high

Sure - we can suggest wrong player usage, wrong line combo's, personality problems, whatever ... I want to know exactly where I'm at and what my IMMEDIATE action plan will be ... everyone's gonna take their medicine and I am going to move DECISIVELY & VIOLENTLY ... this is a big money business ... no room for half steps

So - back to the question - who do ya bring in to 'assist' ?

I agree that Maurice was the reason in the Jets weak play the last 2 months. He has to go.
Why worry about having only 3 picks on the draft when Maurice refuses to use any of their NHL ready draft and develop players.
Next year will Poolman, Appleton, Vesailinen, Niku, Stanley, Spacek, Harkins, Nogier and Samberg get a fair chance at making the team. Not with Maurice as coach.
If the Jets resign Myers then Trouba will be traded at the draft. There is at least a dozen teams that will line up to trade for him and this could bring a true #2 center plus a #1 draft choice, or better.
If Buff is traded he also would bring the Jets a #2 center and a #1 draft choice, or better.
I don't expect Maurice will lose his job as Chevy is very loyal and a GM that doesn't rush to make changes, but I hope in firing Maurice he does break precedent.
- islansjet

Just commenting on the bolded line. Poolman, Appleton, Vesalainen, Niku and imop Samberg would be next to crack the big club lineup. Aside from Poolman, if you insert Appleton, Niku, and Vesalainen, then the Jets get even younger I beleive. I think they were the second youngest lineup this year so would they be the youngest next year? Does that push or slide the window a bit further as the leaders like Wheeler, Buf, Little get older?

I think that is a good way to look at the Trouba issue, with a #2 center coming back. Trouba will have some good value after a 50 point season and logging the defence without Morrisey and buf in the lineup. My point being is that the jets should be able to sell high with Trouba.

In business if you have a massive failure in achievement - as I count our 1st round exit as being - you conduct a review to identify performance gaps (as, Pistol Pete, you have initiated in this post)

The first tricky part is you usually bring in a new set of eyes or more to "assist" with the review ... you don't simply go to those who ushered the failure and ask what went wrong - they are motivated to soften the messages - or - may not understand how they failed

This is never welcomed by the incumbent management team ... too f_ckin bad - this is a big boy business

So my question is - who are the hockey people out there that can 'assist' ? ... that's where I would start ... this is ownership stuff - initiated from up high

Sure - we can suggest wrong player usage, wrong line combo's, personality problems, whatever ... I want to know exactly where I'm at and what my IMMEDIATE action plan will be ... everyone's gonna take their medicine and I am going to move DECISIVELY & VIOLENTLY ... this is a big money business ... no room for half steps

So - back to the question - who do ya bring in to 'assist' ?
- CorydonKeith

its worth saying again that it's not just about the 1st round exit but uninspired play since December. There were a couple gems in there but not the regular efforts we saw in 2017/18.

What is the reason for the decline in play? There are some things we may never know but there has to be some accountability somewhere and a large portion of the accountability has to lay with Maurice.

Injuries - not a reason and there were equal or more significant injuries last year.

Tension in the room? a veteran coach should be well equipped to manage this. Does anyone recall an interview with Hayes where he alluded to infighting about play while he was on 2nd line - referring perhaps to Laine and Ehlers

I don't buy for a second that the systems are inadequate. I would love to know why the 1st PP unit stayed out for 90+ seconds every power play, even when the late shorties started happening. Unlike some I don't see 22 mins for top players as categorically a wrong decision but Sheif did look gassed for too many of the goals against.

Team is too young? this is on Chevy.

a politically incorrect intangible that no one talks about is the low number of Canadian passports. We got beat by a bunch of 3rd line prairie boys like Schwarz - also on Chevy.

Accountability could be Maurice owning up to and apologizing for decisions he sees in hindsight as regrettable and outlining new direction, possibly replacing an assistant or two. It could be a private conversation with Chevy and a short leash in the fall. It could be a firing in the next few weeks. Timing of a potential firing could be about how much Chevy likes another coaching candidate. Noel was fired mid-season, it could happen again.

Just commenting on the bolded line. Poolman, Appleton, Vesalainen, Niku and imop Samberg would be next to crack the big club lineup. Aside from Poolman, if you insert Appleton, Niku, and Vesalainen, then the Jets get even younger I beleive. I think they were the second youngest lineup this year so would they be the youngest next year? Does that push or slide the window a bit further as the leaders like Wheeler, Buf, Little get older?

I think that is a good way to look at the Trouba issue, with a #2 center coming back. Trouba will have some good value after a 50 point season and logging the defence without Morrisey and buf in the lineup. My point being is that the jets should be able to sell high with Trouba.
- CharlieDog

We are back to trusting Chevy for retooling. He has inside knowledge that we don't have and some decisions that we may question will be related to this. Who is part of the problem and who is part of the solution? Who is working hard to improve and who is coasting? Personal issues spilling onto the ice? desirable players that are untouchable or available? GM's that are vulnerable or trigger happy (ie. Columbus has a lot of big holes to fill for next year)

If the Trouba years are truly done and normal expected market salary isn't enough to keep him in Wpg then I like the idea of using his value to get a #2C. I also see Ehlers as a tradeable asset that could bring back significant talent. Teams that have a centre and might make them available are Philly, Florida, NJ and if you believe EK Malkin.

Salary moves might include Kulikov and Perreault. Kulikov would need a sweetener or a trade for another project player (like a Pulijarvi or Kadri - cue the groans)

We are back to trusting Chevy for retooling. He has inside knowledge that we don't have and some decisions that we may question will be related to this. Who is part of the problem and who is part of the solution? Who is working hard to improve and who is coasting? Personal issues spilling onto the ice? desirable players that are untouchable or available? GM's that are vulnerable or trigger happy (ie. Columbus has a lot of big holes to fill for next year)

If the Trouba years are truly done and normal expected market salary isn't enough to keep him in Wpg then I like the idea of using his value to get a #2C. I also see Ehlers as a tradeable asset that could bring back significant talent. Teams that have a centre and might make them available are Philly, Florida, NJ and if you believe EK Malkin.

Salary moves might include Kulikov and Perreault. Kulikov would need a sweetener or a trade for another project player (like a Pulijarvi or Kadri - cue the groans)
- 2.0

I would be very happy with Kadri. Don’t know how much of a project a two time 30 goal scorer would be.

If Maurice deserves to be fired, then what about Cooper, Peters, and perhaps Babcock and Laviolette ?

I also think We should go after Couturier.

To PHI: Jacob Trouba, Jack Roslovic, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sean Couturier, Phi 2019 second round pick

If Maurice deserves to be fired, then what about Cooper, Peters, and perhaps Babcock and Laviolette ?
- bennythehat

No way, we need to take it back to the old school.

Head Coach: Scott Arniel
Assistant Coaches: Phil Housley, Paul Maclean
Goalie Coach: Ray Petkau

Stralman is a UFA

Sergachev makes 894K, Buff makes 7.6 mil and Tampa has worse cap problems than you guys
- jimbro83

I didn’t realize that Stralman was a UFA. In that case I would have no issue adding a player like Miller or Johnson to make the trade happen.

So I guess everyone's silence on my Hayes question is that he isn't wanted back. Lol
- rrentz

It’s not that Hayes isn’t wanted back. He fell into the same trap that Petan, Roslovic, Appleton, Dano have all been in. That is gaining the mysterious trust of Maurice. No one knows how it’s earned, but it’s clearly something that Hayes was unable to get.

I also think We should go after Couturier.

To PHI: Jacob Trouba, Jack Roslovic, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sean Couturier, Phi 2019 second round pick
- TheUltimateJet

No. Hell no. Lowry is a non-starter for me. Value on ice is 10 times his value in a trade

No way, we need to take it back to the old school.

Head Coach: Scott Arniel
Assistant Coaches: Phil Housley, Paul Maclean
Goalie Coach: Ray Petkau
- TheUltimateJet

Oh god, the game of musical coaches continues. If we scrap our bench, I want a staff of newcomers. Not old guard with established weaknesses and previous NHL failings

If Maurice deserves to be fired, then what about Cooper, Peters, and perhaps Babcock and Laviolette ?
- bennythehat

They all ran excellent teams the whole season through. Maurice did not.

Also worth noting is how short of a leash Babcock has already. His replacement is in the system just waiting for his deal to end

No. Hell no. Lowry is a non-starter for me. Value on ice is 10 times his value in a trade
- Rexypoo

Lowry is expendable with Couturier on the team, who finished second in Selke voting last year.

I'd throw in Conner, keep Roslovic and get Sanheim in that trade Ultimate.

Lowry is expendable with Couturier on the team, who finished second in Selke voting last year.

I'd throw in Conner, keep Roslovic and get Sanheim in that trade Ultimate.
- BWJumper

Funny thing is, I posted the same trade on the Philly board and they said it wasn't enough. Rexypoo says it's too much, which means that the trade I suggested would be fair value.

Oh god, the game of musical coaches continues. If we scrap our bench, I want a staff of newcomers. Not old guard with established weaknesses and previous NHL failings
- Rexypoo

Ray Petkau is not a recycled coach. He's the guy both Hellebuyck and Broissant go to. As well as guys like Dubnyk.

As for the other three, all are formers Jets. They know this city and what it means to be a Jet.

Lowry is expendable with Couturier on the team, who finished second in Selke voting last year.

I'd throw in Conner, keep Roslovic and get Sanheim in that trade Ultimate.
- BWJumper

This is actually a good point. F**k.
I still vote keep Lowry, and try for Trouba+Connor for Couturier+Sanhiem in some form.

Scheifele-Couturier-Copp-Lowry raises the sails for me

Ray Petkau is not a recycled coach. He's the guy both Hellebuyck and Broissant go to. As well as guys like Dubnyk.

As for the other three, all are formers Jets. They know this city and what it means to be a Jet.
- TheUltimateJet

Arniel, Housley, and Maclean have all had chances. Housley isn’t good, and there’s a reason the other two haven’t had chances since.

Petkau is a great idea, that’s my bad

I also think We should go after Couturier.

To PHI: Jacob Trouba, Jack Roslovic, Adam Lowry

To WPG: Sean Couturier, Phi 2019 second round pick
- TheUltimateJet

This is a severe over payment on our part and I love Cotourier

I didn’t realize that Stralman was a UFA. In that case I would have no issue adding a player like Miller or Johnson to make the trade happen.
- TheUltimateJet

Why? Have you watched Johnson and miller this year? Change for the sake of change doesn’t make sense

This is a severe over payment on our part and I love Cotourier
- Ross77

Don't see how it's an overpayment. I think we would want something similar if someone wanted Scheifele. Couturier is a number one Center. We need two number one centres. Couturier is much like Bergeron and players like those don't come around too often.