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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM ET
Anyone watching the San Jose Flyers game?
- bird_dog_pa


Great Ot period. Whistles swallowed for sure
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:53 PM ET
Anyone watching the San Jose Flyers game?
- bird_dog_pa

its taking (frank)ing eons to finish.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 21 @ 11:03 PM ET
Hertl shorthanded!

Wowee!
Cvetocek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kendall Park, NJ
Joined: 03.08.2015

Apr 21 @ 11:28 PM ET
Her record just went into the memory hole.
I left the USSR not to ever experience this sh#t again. sad.

- missingmike


Seriously, though, is her memory really all that important? I have to say, I never much cared for her singing, and certainly never believed in a correlation between her song being played and outcomes on the ice.

Find some old records of hers if you really enjoy her stuff and want to personally keep her memory going.
Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Section 112, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:44 PM ET
What many of you are missing is that her song was SATIRE. The crazies on the Left pushed through their anti-American agenda yet again without anyone in a position of responsibility using more than two brain cells to suggest that they were going a step too far.

This whole situation is abominable and I am done with Comcast and the Flyers organization. Guess I'll be hanging out with Shawn Tilger...
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:25 AM ET
Seriously, though, is her memory really all that important? I have to say, I never much cared for her singing, and certainly never believed in a correlation between her song being played and outcomes on the ice.

Find some old records of hers if you really enjoy her stuff and want to personally keep her memory going.

- Cvetocek

You completely missed my point and "1984" reference flew right over your head.
Cvetocek
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kendall Park, NJ
Joined: 03.08.2015

Apr 22 @ 6:54 AM ET
You completely missed my point and "1984" reference flew right over your head.
- missingmike


Nyet, tovarisch. The difference between Comcast Spectacor and The Ministry of Truth is that Comcast does not control every archive of Kate Smith and cannot throw her down the memory hole. They just won't have a statue and play one song at hockey games. You and anyone else are free to enjoy her work at your leisure. Including watching video of her singing at the Spectrum before each game, if you should so desire.

The comparison you make when you liken Comcast's decision to the propaganda and oppression found in the Soviet Union is not well-founded.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 7:27 AM ET
In that first OT period. SJ got away with several non calls. I’d be livid if I were a Vegas fan
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Apr 22 @ 7:34 AM ET
Nyet, tovarisch. The difference between Comcast Spectacor and The Ministry of Truth is that Comcast does not control every archive of Kate Smith and cannot throw her down the memory hole. They just won't have a statue and play one song at hockey games. You and anyone else are free to enjoy her work at your leisure. Including watching video of her singing at the Spectrum before each game, if you should so desire.

The comparison you make when you liken Comcast's decision to the propaganda and oppression found in the Soviet Union is not well-founded.

- Cvetocek

Do you have any experience living in the USSR?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 22 @ 7:53 AM ET
I just have this feeling the veteran d man we add is spurgeon. There were talks of us discussing him at the deadline. Hes a fletcher guy and seemingly would be a good fit for vigneault system. Hayes is the center that seems writing on the wall-ish. He signed with vigneault in 2014 out of all teams. He multiple times referenced he enjoyed playing for him. All just seems to make too much sense. Kruger could be the bottom 6 guy. Good vet leader. Strong possession and PK-er.

I dont trade #11. If were building this team right itll be our last chance for a lottery pick for a while. You take the pick to add another high end prospect to the system. Because at some point like all good teams do someone will want more than we can give them and we will need an ELC to replace him. We have 10 picks. Move a 2nd or later in a trade if you have to. We got Farabee at #14 and he looks like he could make the nhl next year at some point and contribute. We can definitely get a worthwhile player at 11.

- Tfaehner


still would not mind Bouwmeester for one year, I think he is a FA, he is big, can still skate. I like how he played against the jets. I don't want to overspend or extend with a vet D, just need a short term plug with some playoff exp. unless there is a real good hockey trade for a 2-3 D man, I would take the cheap route. then get the C or at the very least a scoring winger.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:05 AM ET
Spurgeon is an excellent defender. Highly under rated while constantly taking on heavy defensive assignments and regularly facing other teams top lineups. Hes also right handed fairly young and on a good contract and he would likely be cheaper than a lot the big names. I also didnt propose giving up any our core young d for him. Hes a better defenseman and fit in my opinion than someone like trouba
- Tfaehner


In my opinion, Spurgeon is not a better defenseman or fit that Trouba is.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 22 @ 8:11 AM ET
In my opinion, Spurgeon is not a better defenseman or fit that Trouba is.
- MJL


Reasons ? I think spurgeon is excellent defensively, he commits next to no penalties ever, hes a leader and mentor, and he would cost half to get. Trouba imo is an over rated diva.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 22 @ 8:45 AM ET
Reasons ? I think spurgeon is excellent defensively, he commits next to no penalties ever, hes a leader and mentor, and he would cost half to get. Trouba imo is an over rated diva.
- Tfaehner



small but 30 plus points, 5.5 for 1 year and he is 29

definte possible but what will be the future or just a rental?

He will cost a good bit
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 22 @ 8:45 AM ET
In that first OT period. SJ got away with several non calls. I’d be livid if I were a Vegas fan
- Just5


Second year franchise already to the Cup Finals, following it up with another successful season. If Knights fans are livid, what should Flyers fans be?

Instead of watching playoff hockey, we are talking about a statue being removed of a person who died 35 years ago.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 8:54 AM ET
Reasons ? I think spurgeon is excellent defensively, he commits next to no penalties ever, hes a leader and mentor, and he would cost half to get. Trouba imo is an over rated diva.
- Tfaehner



Trouba is younger and a better player. I agree that Trouba would cost more to acquire because he is a better player. Trouba is a solid 2 way defenseman.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 22 @ 8:55 AM ET
Second year franchise already to the Cup Finals, following it up with another successful season. If Knights fans are livid, what should Flyers fans be?

Instead of watching playoff hockey, we are talking about a statue being removed of a person who died 35 years ago.

- PLindbergh31

but the farm system is loaded with blue chip cant miss prospects. Patience young grasshopper
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 22 @ 8:57 AM ET
still would not mind Bouwmeester for one year, I think he is a FA, he is big, can still skate. I like how he played against the jets. I don't want to overspend or extend with a vet D, just need a short term plug with some playoff exp. unless there is a real good hockey trade for a 2-3 D man, I would take the cheap route. then get the C or at the very least a scoring winger.
- wcorvette

he resigned on the cheap. after a rough start, back from injury, he played very well

what about big buff!!!!!! couple years left on his deal
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 22 @ 9:02 AM ET
he resigned on the cheap. after a rough start, back from injury, he played very well

what about big buff!!!!!! couple years left on his deal

- daryl stanley

he stinks
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Apr 22 @ 9:11 AM ET
he stinks
- KINGKENZO

soap and water can help in that area
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:16 AM ET
Trouba is younger and a better player. I agree that Trouba would cost more to acquire because he is a better player. Trouba is a solid 2 way defenseman.
- MJL


I would argue that trouba is a more talented player. But for our situation and what I think we need on this team spurgeon is a better fit. But quite frankly I'd be happy with either acquisition. Assuming Myers sanheim provorov are still on our team
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 22 @ 9:21 AM ET
small but 30 plus points, 5.5 for 1 year and he is 29

definte possible but what will be the future or just a rental?

He will cost a good bit

- wcorvette


I think he could be extended for 4 or 5 years. Hes right handed. Takes very few penalties. Has been the shut down defenseman for Minnesota getting all the top lines and heavy d zone starts. Hes more of a leader etc. And he has good puck skills something that fit ls vigneault system very well. I get everyone wants to make a splash for a legit top pairing guy but they cost a fortune. Spurgeon is a really solid 2 3.

Provy spurgeon
Sanheim Myers
Ghost gudas
Morin

The balance is strong. I dont think hagg has a long term future with us especially with vigneault. Ghost I want to be given a chance to play with vigneault before we trade him unless hes in a trade for a top line scorer or top pairing d man.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:24 AM ET
A bit of an overreaction, my friend. It's just a statue.

Besides, I haven't seen one person attack her service to the country ... nor was the statue intended as a commemoration of her service to the country.

- sirpaulj7


Ask her family if they think these actions are attacking her image and service to her country? I bet they say she's being attacked unfairly. Even our franchise icon bob Clarke came to her defence.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
During WW2 Kate traveled overseas more than 500,000 miles to entertain troops and raised over 600 million $ in war bonds. She won the highest civilian award, the Presidntial Medal Of Freedom.

After more than 3000 recordings 2 of them are being judged almost 90 years later. She has been labeled a racist with no opportunity to defend herself. This is the kind of purification of the record only seen before in fascist states.

Ask the stone thowers what they have done in their lives to help this country. Are their hearts really in a more pure and better place where they can judge others? Sleep well my brothers, sleep well.

- Djapana


Fantastic post. She was part of the history of the franchise and it she's being omitted. Really, we need to go back and look at the background for every person who has a statue. Mount Rushmore? If we find one negative aspect of those presidents, they come down.

I wonder how interesting Rome would be if we got rid of all thingbs associated with Ancient Roman emperors who were not always nice guys.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 22 @ 9:42 AM ET
Fantastic post. She was part of the history of the franchise and it she's being omitted. Really, we need to go back and look at the background for every person who has a statue. Mount Rushmore? If we find one negative aspect of those presidents, they come down.

I wonder how interesting Rome would be if we got rid of all thingbs associated with Ancient Roman emperors who were not always nice guys.

- Hextall271



Sadly, this has already happened.

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 22 @ 9:45 AM ET
I think he could be extended for 4 or 5 years. Hes right handed. Takes very few penalties. Has been the shut down defenseman for Minnesota getting all the top lines and heavy d zone starts. Hes more of a leader etc. And he has good puck skills something that fit ls vigneault system very well. I get everyone wants to make a splash for a legit top pairing guy but they cost a fortune. Spurgeon is a really solid 2 3.

Provy spurgeon
Sanheim Myers
Ghost gudas
Morin

The balance is strong. I dont think hagg has a long term future with us especially with vigneault. Ghost I want to be given a chance to play with vigneault before we trade him unless hes in a trade for a top line scorer or top pairing d man.

- Tfaehner


I agree, he is a good player and I don't want to pay the price of a #2 D, it sounds like Spurgeon is a #2 D? what will the cost be ? At 29 it is a risk to sign him another 4 years, this league will continue to get faster and younger. At the right price I would like him, I agree Hagg will be traded, been saying that for a while now. I am still in the mindset of a Bouwmeester, short term.

I can see Spurgeon costing less than Trouba. Trouba being 25 is really good and I think the Jets will make a move after losing the first round. Plus the Jets have their work cut out for them on the cap, Trouba is an RFA, they have no 1st, 3rd, 6th or 7th picks this year.


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