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jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 6:04 PM ET
But Trouba has time to hone his game, and is more agile.
- wiz1901

I do not like bring in any players whom are poor skaters. I see why or how K Hayes could be effective; nonetheless, why spend big dollars on him. Address other team needs first.

I am guessing that Bowman wants to bring in an experienced dman but he will refuse a huge overpay. And whimever he might bring in, has to be a descent skater and known to be adept in puck management. Also not afraid or avoids physical play. Doesn't need to be really good, just adequate and usually reliable. Is there such a dman to extract

Even if some dman arrives, what is his pricetag/cost to acquire? I suggest we might be better off same cast and hope Jokiharju is ready. Team defense and Colliton being a stickler will have to prevail. Gus gets a pass only to some extent. No brain farts or stupid plays. It gets him detention if only 1-2 games press box to think about it. Maybe Gus will deduce less games played = less points personally and smaller next contract.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 6:10 PM ET
Wondering whom board feels wins deciding game 7 Toronto vs Boston

Any possibility Babcock could outcoach even a minor move is the difference. I dislike Toronto so i have trouble looking objectively at the outcome.

And whom is your choice for the Norris trophy? I will root for Giordano
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Apr 21 @ 6:40 PM ET
Wondering whom board feels wins deciding game 7 Toronto vs Boston

Any possibility Babcock could outcoach even a minor move is the difference. I dislike Toronto so i have trouble looking objectively at the outcome.

And whom is your choice for the Norris trophy? I will root for Giordano

- jhawk59


I want Boston to win even though they play like a bunch of thugs. The new Leafs bandwagon is vomit inducing I don’t want to see them move on.

Either way, I expect both of them to lose to CBJ.

Hoping for a Sharks win tonight.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 21 @ 7:11 PM ET
Wondering whom board feels wins deciding game 7 Toronto vs Boston

Any possibility Babcock could outcoach even a minor move is the difference. I dislike Toronto so i have trouble looking objectively at the outcome.

And whom is your choice for the Norris trophy? I will root for Giordano

- jhawk59

Here's what going to happen:

Bruins win 7th game 4-1.

Dubas fires Babcock.

Babcock blames it all on Dubas and Worthless Willie Nylander.

Austin Mathews demands a trade to Arizona where he becomes The Big Cactus a d says it wad too cold in Toronto.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment raises ticket prices $100 / ticket across the board and all the suckers renew their seats.

Babcock grabs his payout and then takes over in Winnipeg.

It was another enjoyable day for me watching the Leafs blow one more opportunity to win something.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 7:33 PM ET
You know how Bowman saw the unappped potential of Strome and possibly Perlini and made a move to acquire them, do you see a young defenseman who hasn't lived up to his potential or is stuck behind other players on his current NHL team that Bowman could target?
- paulr

HAYDEN Fleury in Carolina possibly
AA 2020 3rd for fleury and roy other additions on the hawks side but that be the base of the Trade.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Apr 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
HAYDEN Fleury in Carolina possibly
- Scott1977


John Hayden and a vowel to Carolina for Haydn Fleury?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 8:37 PM ET
I want Boston to win even though they play like a bunch of thugs. The new Leafs bandwagon is vomit inducing I don’t want to see them move on.

Either way, I expect both of them to lose to CBJ.

Hoping for a Sharks win tonight.

- RedRevenge


Honestly don'tcare who wins.

If the Leafs are surprised how physical the Bruins are in game 7 they will lose 4, 5-1.

Im thinking OT on a controversial call.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
Here's what going to happen:

Bruins win 7th game 4-1.

Dubas fires Babcock.

Babcock blames it all on Dubas and Worthless Willie Nylander.

Austin Mathews demands a trade to Arizona where he becomes The Big Cactus a d says it wad too cold in Toronto.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment raises ticket prices $100 / ticket across the board and all the suckers renew their seats.

Babcock grabs his payout and then takes over in Winnipeg.

It was another enjoyable day for me watching the Leafs blow one more opportunity to win something.

- RickJ


That would be awesome if Babcock took over in Winnipeg. Could there be a minor surprise if Chevaldayoff is let go too. First thing i do is get rid of Big Buff.

Well Babcock might wish he could be GM too but he cannot wear two hats sucessfully. Unless he hires an administrator to basicly do his job....he just makes player assignment and drafting decisions.

Rick i would like to know your top four choices for the #3 slot and are they in same order if we trade down a couple spots? Despite soothsayers i fear smart GM's take Cozens and Kakko before we choose. I need to be convinced if you woukd take Hughes before Cozens
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 8:53 PM ET
HAYDEN Fleury in Carolina possibly
AA 2020 3rd for fleury and roy other additions on the hawks side but that be the base of the Trade.

- Scott1977

Before you look for ideas like that, check what side defense (your example) Fleury plays. Honestly i would also want an update how his game - especially his weak points - evolved this past season. He played AHL?

Carolina has Fleury and Bean as trade chips if they aim to improve the NHL team for betterment in the playoffs.

Also while i would consider the trade if i am Chicago there is no way they trade a top prospect for an older veteran whom doesn't skate but average at best.

Read: valued for the playoff push and playoffs

I can see AA going for a draft choice. That is it. He is the kind of player you trade not a top prospect if even a prospect. Teams like to trade for an AA veteran during season but the lower the draft choice the more likely post summertime or training camp trade dateline. The idea all GM's know is timing is everything as in the primer to acquire a veteran on the cheap[url]
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 9:06 PM ET
Before you look for ideas like that, check what side defense (your example) Fleury plays. Honestly i would also want an update how his game - especially his weak points - evolved this past season. He played AHL?

Carolina has Fleury and Bean as trade chips if they aim to improve the NHL team for betterment in the playoffs.

Also while i would consider the trade if i am Chicago there is no way they trade a top prospect for an older veteran whom doesn't skate but average at best.

Read: valued for the playoff push and playoffs

I can see AA going for a draft choice. That is it. He is the kind of player you trade not a top prospect if even a prospect. Teams like to trade for an AA veteran during season but the lower the draft choice the more likely post summertime or training camp trade dateline. The idea all GM's know is timing is everything as in the primer to acquire a veteran on the cheap

- jhawk59[url]

Just an idea just thrown out there
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 9:10 PM ET
Before you look for ideas like that, check what side defense (your example) Fleury plays. Honestly i would also want an update how his game - especially his weak points - evolved this past season. He played AHL?

Carolina has Fleury and Bean as trade chips if they aim to improve the NHL team for betterment in the playoffs.

Also while i would consider the trade if i am Chicago there is no way they trade a top prospect for an older veteran whom doesn't skate but average at best.

Read: valued for the playoff push and playoffs

I can see AA going for a draft choice. That is it. He is the kind of player you trade not a top prospect if even a prospect. Teams like to trade for an AA veteran during season but the lower the draft choice the more likely post summertime or training camp trade dateline. The idea all GM's know is timing is everything as in the primer to acquire a veteran on the cheap

- jhawk59[url]

So what kind of return could AA get this offseason possible 2nd or is a 3rd more realistic? I mentioned fleury only because he might be a player block due to depth.at the defense in Carolina possible recalmation project a lot like strome change of scenery and system.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 9:49 PM ET
So what kind of return could AA get this offseason possible 2nd or is a 3rd more realistic? I mentioned fleury only because he might be a player block due to depth.at the defense in Carolina possible recalmation project a lot like strome change of scenery and system.
- Scott1977

I have not heard anything about Fleury as a comparison in that an issue involved is a needed change of scenery.

What i would focus on trying to derive an accurate assessment, is he going to be any better than our own prospects in handling bigger physical on rushing forwards and does he engage win board battles. While interest is perked i just know we have enough prospects probably like him. Moreover my thinking - which some do not agree including Justin - is to hold on to Koekkoek. See if he becomes more consistent with a regular shift. I like his fiestiness or willingness to be such. I do not want to invest any asset we have insofar as to surrender it for another dman

I take AA for a third especially if it is an early to mid if it is a 2019 pick. Fleury would not be blocked if he is highly regarded; he would get a few cup of coffee auditions then a decision is made whether he can take someone else job.

That is how it usually works, with a trade of said prospect or the player he replaces. The timeframe is not an issue until you approach the expansion draft. Then you need several plans or scenarios where a Fluery fits in.

I would guess they are open to but not pushing the trade of either of those prospects. I say you would be dreaming to get a #2 for AA.. Generally younger better players have that pricetag. Unless you have injuries sometimes.
wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Apr 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
Oops, sorry.
The old man was the real deal. The jury is still out on the kids in my opinion. I want to see them back up some of their bullpoop.

- 6628


Matthew can be a jag at times, I still would like to have a kid with his talent and maybe a little bit of that on this team, but his brother Brady according to a lot of the experts will be the real deal. It is just my opinion that I feel they missed the boat there, but then again we weren’t in the room and maybe Stan did try to move up,
Moving forward to this draft, I hope Bowman grabs either Kakko,Cozens, or the Russian, I got a funny feeling the New York rangers are going to grab that defenseman. Bowman then will have Kappo Kakko Fall right into his lap. Let’s hope he don’t screw it up.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:16 PM ET

I know it's not happening, but give me Jaccob Slavin. That guy was a fourth round pick. Love his game.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 10:20 PM ET
How did SJ not score, damn
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:21 PM ET
How did SJ not score, damn
- BetweenTheDots


I know it. Vegas, an expansion team, looks like a seasoned 10 year team that actually has paid their dues. Can't wait till Seattle is gifted a playoff team.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 21 @ 10:22 PM ET
I know it's not happening, but give me Jaccob Slavin. That guy was a fourth round pick. Love his game.
- kwolf68


I watched the Boston-Toronto game today and if it’s any indication of his play I’d say hell yes to Ty’s suggestions of Anisimov for Kuraly. He plays with the exact energy the Hawks need in their bottom 6.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:23 PM ET
I watched the Boston-Toronto game today and if it’s any indication of his play I’d say hell yes to Ty’s suggestions of Anisimov for Kuraly. He plays with the exact energy the Hawks need in their bottom 6.
- DarthKane


That will work, but I still believe the weakness of this team is Defense. Period. If we don't add at least one top 4 shutdown guy then same results. We failed to make the playoffs despite a career year by Kane, brilliant year by ADC, a resurgent year by Toews.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 10:25 PM ET
I know it. Vegas, an expansion team, looks like a seasoned 10 year team that actually has paid their dues. Can't wait till Seattle is gifted a playoff team.
- kwolf68


It's obvious Vegas FO and ownership have a clue, we'll see if Seattle does
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 10:27 PM ET
It's obvious Vegas FO and ownership have a clue, we'll see if Seattle does
- BetweenTheDots


I guess. I still am from the school of thought that new teams pay their dues. But it's not a major issue. I just want the Hawks back in the tournament next year.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM ET
Matthew can be a jag at times, I still would like to have a kid with his talent and maybe a little bit of that on this team, but his brother Brady according to a lot of the experts will be the real deal. It is just my opinion that I feel they missed the boat there, but then again we weren’t in the room and maybe Stan did try to move up,
Moving forward to this draft, I hope Bowman grabs either Kakko,Cozens, or the Russian, I got a funny feeling the New York rangers are going to grab that defenseman. Bowman then will have Kappo Kakko Fall right into his lap. Let’s hope he don’t screw it up.

- wonthecup10


Someone like you wants Kakko over Cozens? We have two scorers in Kane and DeBrincat but we don't have what Cozens brings

I know you like tough players usually not so much soft non engaging players.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 10:30 PM ET
I watched the Boston-Toronto game today and if it’s any indication of his play I’d say hell yes to Ty’s suggestions of Anisimov for Kuraly. He plays with the exact energy the Hawks need in their bottom 6.
- DarthKane

Done deal. Yes.
Tyler Cameron
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Apr 21 @ 10:39 PM ET
I watched the Boston-Toronto game today and if it’s any indication of his play I’d say hell yes to Ty’s suggestions of Anisimov for Kuraly. He plays with the exact energy the Hawks need in their bottom 6.
- DarthKane


Kuraly looked great out there. Would be an amazing addition to the bottom 6.

Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 10:44 PM ET
I have not heard anything about Fleury as a comparison in that an issue involved is a needed change of scenery.

What i would focus on trying to derive an accurate assessment, is he going to be any better than our own prospects in handling bigger physical on rushing forwards and does he engage win board battles. While interest is perked i just know we have enough prospects probably like him. Moreover my thinking - which some do not agree including Justin - is to hold on to Koekkoek. See if he becomes more consistent with a regular shift. I like his fiestiness or willingness to be such. I do not want to invest any asset we have insofar as to surrender it for another dman

I take AA for a third especially if it is an early to mid if it is a 2019 pick. Fleury would not be blocked if he is highly regarded; he would get a few cup of coffee auditions then a decision is made whether he can take someone else job.

That is how it usually works, with a trade of said prospect or the player he replaces. The timeframe is not an issue until you approach the expansion draft. Then you need several plans or scenarios where a Fluery fits in.

I would guess they are open to but not pushing the trade of either of those prospects. I say you would be dreaming to get a #2 for AA.. Generally younger better players have that pricetag. Unless you have injuries sometimes.

- jhawk59

Ok good points thanks plus i liked what i saw from koko i liked him over Forsling just my opinion.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 21 @ 10:48 PM ET
That will work, but I still believe the weakness of this team is Defense. Period. If we don't add at least one top 4 shutdown guy then same results. We failed to make the playoffs despite a career year by Kane, brilliant year by ADC, a resurgent year by Toews.
- kwolf68


That wouldn’t be the only move. They need forwards I play on the PK (TANEV!!) and defensively-minded defensemen.
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