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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
I’m for any trade that makes the team better and there have been some of those scenarios floated here. I’ve seen a lot more that have him leaving because he isn’t worth his cap hit...maybe/maybe not.
- HawkintheD


Nothing like being definitive, what do you think you are a Canadian fence sitter?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
Caufield with two more goals today....
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
Nothing like being definitive, what do you think you are a Canadian fence sitter?
- paulr


Better to be a Canadian fence sitter than an American wall builder.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
Better to be a Canadian fence sitter than an American wall builder.
- DarthKane

I have nothing .....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
Better to be a Canadian fence sitter than an American wall builder.
- DarthKane


truth!

There is a lot of value in finding the right lunchpail guys on teams where their SALARY CAP needs human sacrifice.
I don't think the hawks can start overloading up front because there has to be spots in contention for outside signings and the up and comers, but if the right two way player up front can be had, via a trade partner, but that player has to be some favorable long term outcome (his game is on an uptick, his salary is going to be easy. to swallow), but the big fish they probably are looking for is trading for a left defender using quality from an area of surplus.
Hayes poop the bed for the Jets...is Anisimov and answer there? At least I can argue he is worth his salary unlike Hayes' upcoming payout by some rummy GM. A vet has to fill that 2nd centre spot and FIT as an active set up and heavy lifter.


paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 21 @ 12:28 PM ET
truth!

There is a lot of value in finding the right lunchpail guys on teams where their SALARY CAP needs human sacrifice.
I don't think the hawks can start overloading up front because there has to be spots in contention for outside signings and the up and comers, but if the right two way player up front can be had, via a trade partner, but that player has to be some favorable long term outcome (his game is on an uptick, his salary is going to be easy. to swallow), but the big fish they probably are looking for is trading for a left defender using quality from an area of surplus.
Hayes poop the bed for the Jets...is Anisimov and answer there? At least I can argue he is worth his salary unlike Hayes' upcoming payout by some rummy GM. A vet has to fill that 2nd centre spot and FIT as an active set up and heavy lifter.

- wiz1901



You know how Bowman saw the unappped potential of Strome and possibly Perlini and made a move to acquire them, do you see a young defenseman who hasn't lived up to his potential or is stuck behind other players on his current NHL team that Bowman could target?
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 12:31 PM ET
truth!

There is a lot of value in finding the right lunchpail guys on teams where their SALARY CAP needs human sacrifice.
I don't think the hawks can start overloading up front because there has to be spots in contention for outside signings and the up and comers, but if the right two way player up front can be had, via a trade partner, but that player has to be some favorable long term outcome (his game is on an uptick, his salary is going to be easy. to swallow), but the big fish they probably are looking for is trading for a left defender using quality from an area of surplus.
Hayes poop the bed for the Jets...is Anisimov and answer there? At least I can argue he is worth his salary unlike Hayes' upcoming payout by some rummy GM. A vet has to fill that 2nd centre spot and FIT as an active set up and heavy lifter.

- wiz1901



Right about Hayes. After watching him closely last night I would love to have him on the Hawks, but not at the salary he will likely get in July.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 21 @ 12:37 PM ET
The weakest part of the Blackhawks is defense, why would you put all the team's cap resources into building the offense, which isn't already too bad, without addressing the weakest area of need?
- paulr


All three of those players play defense while bringing some offense to the table. Defense is more than just the six players at that position.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
All three of those players play defense while bringing some offense to the table. Defense is more than just the six players at that position.
- ikeane

Fair enough but that defense is pretty thin, cap resources are needed to address it.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Buff Was one of the factors that showed how poorly Maurice controlled the discipline of this team. Buff's defensive play ranges from good to non existant and he's forver losing his cool at the wrong time.
- paulr

Now you know why the Hawks didn't view Buff as a defenceman full time despite what he wanted.

Blame it on Q however.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
Fair enough but that defense is pretty thin, cap resources are needed to address it.
- paulr

agreed and McNabb would be a great start towards that.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 21 @ 1:13 PM ET
Now you know why the Hawks didn't view Buff as a defenceman full time despite what he wanted.

Blame it on Q however.

- RickJ

He was so good as a forward for the Hawks in large part because he didn't have as many decisions to make. On defense he makes so many mental mistakes or he just vacates his position. On the Blues third goal I have no idea why he decided to sprawl out on the ice effectively taking himself out of the play? It wasn't a situation for a last ditch play.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 21 @ 1:15 PM ET
You know how Bowman saw the unappped potential of Strome and possibly Perlini and made a move to acquire them, do you see a young defenseman who hasn't lived up to his potential or is stuck behind other players on his current NHL team that Bowman could target?
- paulr


Fleury/Mckeoen in Carolina , McCabe in Buffalo come to mind
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 1:16 PM ET
All three of those players play defense while bringing some offense to the table. Defense is more than just the six players at that position.
- ikeane


That's true, it's just whats the point if you only have 1 top 4 dman. I also think it's harder to build from the blue line out and think it's important to have cap flexibility to make a trade when one comes out of left field.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 21 @ 1:23 PM ET
He was so good as a forward for the Hawks in large part because he didn't have as many decisions to make. On defense he makes so many mental mistakes or he just vacates his position. On the Blues third goal I have no idea why he decided to sprawl out on the ice effectively taking himself out of the play? It wasn't a situation for a last ditch play.
- paulr

Terrible play on the sprawl out and a real good forward in Schwartz burned him.

Neither Buff or Trouba as RH Dmen are consistent playing behind their own blueline.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 21 @ 1:32 PM ET
Terrible play on the sprawl out and a real good forward in Schwartz burned him.

Neither Buff or Trouba as RH Dmen are consistent playing behind their own blueline.

- RickJ


I would have loved to see Q show up in the 'Peg' right after he was fired. I am certain he would have instilled the discipline and a defensive structure in time for the Jets to show much better than they did. Maurice has never shown much as a coach and it's always the same weakness with him, poor defensive play and undisciplined teams.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 21 @ 1:38 PM ET
Fleury/Mckeoen in Carolina , McCabe in Buffalo come to mind
- ikeane


Stan also took a shot with 4K. High pick stuck behind a bunch of established players.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Apr 21 @ 4:13 PM ET

- DarthKane


Is there an equivalent "Sign them all" graphic like this?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
Now you know why the Hawks didn't view Buff as a defenceman full time despite what he wanted.Blame it on Q however.
- RickJ

yup...but to me, was the way almost every. news outlet started talking about him like he was one of the top ten at his position, based on pp points &. pims, and not his work at his position.
It just proves that there is a high influx of sportswriters really not knowing the sport they are covering.
Blame it on Q however.
yeah big buff want to come back as forward?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
Neither Buff or Trouba as RH Dmen are consistent playing behind their own blueline.
- RickJ


But Trouba has time to hone his game, and is more agile.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 21 @ 4:53 PM ET
Is there an equivalent "Sign them all" graphic like this?
- totem


There is, I just have to find it.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
But Trouba has time to hone his game, and is more agile.
- wiz1901


Forget Trouba, target Morrisey
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
Forget Trouba, target Morrisey
- DarthKane


That would be a nice get by Stan
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Apr 21 @ 5:14 PM ET
But Trouba has time to hone his game, and is more agile.
- wiz1901


He does but every time i see him play, which isn't a great deal, it's like slow motion in his decision making process
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 21 @ 5:45 PM ET
But Trouba has time to hone his game, and is more agile.
- wiz1901

Big Buff possible scenario:

Florida acquires him for whatever. Maybe Cheveldayoff ought to rid himself of the salary and see if Tallon would exchange first round choice. Even if the difference in selection is not much, Chevy rationalizes that he will try to draft a player he likes rather than whomever is left at his original pick.

Tallon does this because he spoke to Q and Q wants to try using him on third pair and pp. The kicker is, Q will from time to time to stir the pot by putting Buff at forward. And when they are in playoffs, bug buff can get in a goaltenders grill. He could even practice positioning in front of Louongo in practice!
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