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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 11:05 PM ET
The Bills traded Mahomes to the Chiefs did they not ? McDumbDumd's first draft
- Pegullaville



That was a good trade
Kc has the best offensive coach in Andy Reid.

I cant list all the bad move up trades for QBs.

Trent dilfer won a superbowl
Tom Brady was a 6th round pick

Luck happens
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 11:05 PM ET
Jets choke. I have no idea what Trouba was doing there.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 18 @ 11:06 PM ET
When is the throwing contest between Showtime and Alllen? I hope it happens. Allen is my favorite player in Buffalo sports.

Edit: F, not til next off season. Like waiting for the next GoT season. FML. Batavia Daily News got the scoop!

https://www.si.com/nfl/20...owing-competition-charity

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 11:06 PM ET
His father.
- SABRES 89


That's right, I think his dad had an inside view of the poopshow in buffalo. Former nhler.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:06 PM ET
Jets choke. I have no idea what Trouba was doing there.
- Pegullaville


That call on the knocked-off net could go down as a pivotal controversial call

That changed the game, and the series
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Apr 18 @ 11:06 PM ET
Cha-Oke Winnipeg.

Maurice soon available?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 11:07 PM ET
Cha-Oke Winnipeg.

Maurice soon available?

- SabreWest



He can bring Wheeler with him
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:07 PM ET
Jets choke. I have no idea what Trouba was doing there.
- Pegullaville

yeah...looked like he was trying to pin the puck with over 20 seconds to go...that said, connor was completely lost in that sequence...had no idea what to dot
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:10 PM ET
That's right, I think his dad had an inside view of the poopshow in buffalo. Former nhler.
- Boss34

He never wanted him to play here.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:10 PM ET
Cha-Oke Winnipeg.

Maurice soon available?

- SabreWest

Good coach.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 11:11 PM ET
That call on the knocked-off net could go down as a pivotal controversial call

That changed the game, and the series

- jcragcrumple


Goal would have went in even if the net was on. I don't have a problem with it. Jets had the 2-0 lead after 20 and just like that my playoff bracket is on the brinks.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 18 @ 11:12 PM ET
Cha-Oke Winnipeg.

Maurice soon available?

- SabreWest


Good call

Its someone's fault if the getted knocked out early.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:13 PM ET
Goal would have went in even if the net was on. I don't have a problem with it. Jets had the 2-0 lead after 20 and just like that my playoff bracket is on the brinks.
- Pegullaville


That's not the letter of the law though.

The standard is whether the peg was completely in the hole.

Morally, I agree with you. They deserved the goal
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Apr 18 @ 11:15 PM ET
He's looked awful tonight.
- Powerslave


The Kulikov-Myers pairing doesn't look too hot go figure
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 18 @ 11:16 PM ET
Goal would have went in even if the net was on. I don't have a problem with it. Jets had the 2-0 lead after 20 and just like that my playoff bracket is on the brinks.
- Pegullaville

How many toonies you got riding on it? You’re going down Flaccoville.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 11:17 PM ET
That's not the letter of the law though.

The standard is whether the peg was completely in the hole.

Morally, I agree with you. They deserved the goal

- jcragcrumple


The official ruling was the peg came off due to the defensive player and I don’t think they can really argue that too much. He was going to get called for the trip if they didn’t score
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:20 PM ET
The official ruling was the peg came off due to the defensive player and I don’t think they can really argue that too much. He was going to get called for the trip if they didn’t score
- Pegullaville


The letter of the law says that if the peg came off, it's no goal. There's no "if you're pushed in" proviso, as far as what they said on the broadcast, so that couldn't have been the ruling
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:25 PM ET
The letter of the law says that if the peg came off, it's no goal. There's no "if you're pushed in" proviso, as far as what they said on the broadcast, so that couldn't have been the ruling
- jcragcrumple

63.6 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal.

In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have been displaced by the actions a defending player, the puck must have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:31 PM ET
63.6 Awarded Goal - In the event that the goal post is displaced, either deliberately or accidentally, by a defending player, prior to the puck crossing the goal line between the normal position of the goalposts, the Referee may award a goal.

In order to award a goal in this situation, the goal post must have been displaced by the actions a defending player, the puck must have been shot (or the player must be in the act of shooting) at the goal prior to the goal post being displaced, and it must be determined that the puck would have entered the net between the normal position of the goal posts.

When the goal post has been displaced deliberately by the defending team when their goalkeeper has been removed for an extra attacker thereby preventing an impending goal by the attacking team, the Referee shall award a goal to the attacking team.

The goal frame is considered to be displaced if either or both goal pegs are no longer in their respective holes in the ice, or the net has come completely off one or both pegs, prior to or as the puck enters the goal.

- Michael Pachla


I can't bold your bold, but does it count as an "action of a defending player" if his action indirectly leads to the action of the offensive player?

In my mind, no. The Blues player hit the net off. What happened before then doesn't constitute an action by the defending player, but rather the subsequent chain of actions
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:34 PM ET
I can't bold your bold, but does it count as an "action of a defending player" if his action indirectly leads to the action of the offensive player?

In my mind, no. The Blues player hit the net off. What happened before then doesn't constitute an action by the defending player, but rather the subsequent chain of actions

- jcragcrumple

the action of the defending player, in this case interfering or crosschecking the Blues player into the net, and thereby dislodging it, constitutes "an action"...does it not?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:36 PM ET
the action of the defending player, in this case interfering or crosschecking the Blues player into the net, and thereby dislodging it, constitutes "an action"...does it not?
- Michael Pachla


It is an action, but it's not the action that dislodged the net. The action that dislodged the net was done by the blues player

The jets action happened 3 feet away from the net
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 18 @ 11:39 PM ET
It is an action, but it's not the action that dislodged the net. The action that dislodged the net was done by the blues player

The jets action happened 3 feet away from the net

- jcragcrumple
you're reachng
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Apr 18 @ 11:42 PM ET
The letter of the law says that if the peg came off, it's no goal. There's no "if you're pushed in" proviso, as far as what they said on the broadcast, so that couldn't have been the ruling
- jcragcrumple


You weren't allowed to have your foot in the crease either once upon a time.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:44 PM ET
you're reachng
- Michael Pachla


I don't think I am - hear me out

"the goal post must have been displaced by the actions a defending player,"

If we accept that a defending player is responsible for disloging the net by causing an opposing player into the net, then you're not reviewing the play at hand, you're reviewing a series of actions.

And a series of actions is not reviewable, only the "action" is reviewable according to the rule

Opening up review to a cascading series of events is a bad precedent

It's the "action" of the blues player that is responsible
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 18 @ 11:51 PM ET
I don't think I am - hear me out

"the goal post must have been displaced by the actions a defending player,"

If we accept that a defending player is responsible for disloging the net by causing an opposing player into the net, then you're not reviewing the play at hand, you're reviewing a series of actions.

And a series of actions is not reviewable, only the "action" is reviewable according to the rule

Opening up review to a cascading series of events is a bad precedent

It's the "action" of the blues player that is responsible

- jcragcrumple


Do you object to knocking someone into the goalie too?

I get your point, but it was a good call.
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