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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
It really is.
- Marwood


patience is a virtue, and i understand why people are wearing thin on patience on this franchise. Its taken forever to become relevant again, and its debatable to some if we are even there yet. But trading away kids that are finally being identified as the new core, to fix other glaring holes in the line up, and then thinking that overpaying in free agency will fix other holes, is just ridiculous.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
we complained long and hard for years and years about commitment to rebuilding properly, and now that we have started shedding some fat, slowly acquiring some late round picks (picks are picks), not dealing any away (shocking), and slowly establishing a decent core of kids, we want to ship them out to address other holes in the roster and again sign prolific UFA's to $ and term.

Mind boggling.

- Codes1087

Yup
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 18 @ 4:34 PM ET
patience is a virtue, and i understand why people are wearing thin on patience on this franchise. Its taken forever to become relevant again, and its debatable to some if we are even there yet. But trading away kids that are finally being identified as the new core, to fix other glaring holes in the line up, and then thinking that overpaying in free agency will fix other holes, is just ridiculous.
- Codes1087

The playoff are on as well and some get more impatient seeing other teams in the fight and hearing about our players hanging out in Vegas.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 18 @ 4:35 PM ET
I got two words for you: Malkin

EK said he's available. Rebuild complete.

- bloatedmosquito

What's the second word?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:36 PM ET
patience is a virtue, and i understand why people are wearing thin on patience on this franchise. Its taken forever to become relevant again, and its debatable to some if we are even there yet. But trading away kids that are finally being identified as the new core, to fix other glaring holes in the line up, and then thinking that overpaying in free agency will fix other holes, is just ridiculous.
- Codes1087

I certainly hope no one on our roster under the age of 25 apart from maybe Goldy are being shopped at all. I doubt they are based on what JB has said the last year or so about standing pat with the current group. I do think they might hand out another medium-large contract in July though.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
What's the second word?
- A_SteamingLombardi


Stanley Cup.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 18 @ 4:38 PM ET
I certainly hope no one on our roster under the age of 25 apart from maybe Goldy are being shopped at all. I doubt they are based on what JB has said the last year or so about standing pat with the current group. I do think they might hand out another medium-large contract in July though.
- NorthNuck


It's a pretty pivotal moment for JB this summer. He could set this franchise back a ton by making a stupid free agent signing imo. I'd rather him disconnect his phone completely this free agency than sign a medium/large ufa contract this summer
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 18 @ 4:40 PM ET
Apparently TB fans hate Seragchev, mainly because they think he's a terrible defender.
- Nucker101


At least he lost in the first round instead of not even playing in 1 NHL game yet...
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:40 PM ET
It's a pretty pivotal moment for JB this summer. He could set this franchise back a ton by making a stupid free agent signing imo. I'd rather him disconnect his phone completely this free agency than sign a medium/large ufa contract this summer
- Codes1087

For me it's all about term. I can see him going for one because his job depends on the team making the playoffs next year. If he does sign one, I hope it's no longer than 3 years. Like you said, another LE could set us back.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 18 @ 4:40 PM ET
Stanley Cup.
- bloatedmosquito

Ohh I thought you were going to say underpants.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:40 PM ET
Stanley Cup.
- bloatedmosquito

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Apparently TB fans hate Seragchev, mainly because they think he's a terrible defender.
- Nucker101


Vantel

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
For me it's all about term. I can see him going for one because his job depends on the team making the playoffs next year. If he does sign one, I hope it's no longer than 3 years. Like you said, another LE could set us back.
- NorthNuck


This I don’t get. Why would you think that he will lose his job if they don’t make the playoffs? The team isn’t that good, it likely won’t be that good next year. The most probable outcome is missing the playoffs. If they have a good draft, shed some salary and take a step forward you don’t think FA will appreciate the work being done?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
At least he lost in the first round instead of not even playing in 1 NHL game yet...
- 1970vintage



Oh, I'd trade OJ for him in a heartbeat lol, just found it interesting that Serg is a whipping boy in Tampa
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
Vantel


- VanHockeyGuy

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
This I don’t get. Why would you think that he will lose his job if they don’t make the playoffs? The team isn’t that good, it likely won’t be that good next year. The most probable outcome is missing the playoffs. If they have a good draft, shed some salary and take a step forward you don’t think FA will appreciate the work being done?
- 1970vintage


Honestly, Canucks could finish dead last and move to 4th in the lottery and as long as Vancouver gets Uber, Bennings job would be safe.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 18 @ 4:47 PM ET
Ohh I thought you were going to say underpants.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Malkin Underpants makes no sense. Plus that's 4 words.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:47 PM ET
Apparently TB fans hate Seragchev, mainly because they think he's a terrible defender.
- Nucker101

young guy, not surprising. God fans are impatient.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:50 PM ET

Didn't mean to pee on the campfire but the draft is late June. That's what 60+ days of player discussion about who goes 10. From the mixed bag I've read, after the top 3 or 4, the first round will be a crapshoot.

Whatever happens at the draft, that's when the conversation in here will be legit... and hugely amusing.

- bloatedmosquito

Can we just get all of them, problem solved
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:51 PM ET
This I don’t get. Why would you think that he will lose his job if they don’t make the playoffs? The team isn’t that good, it likely won’t be that good next year. The most probable outcome is missing the playoffs. If they have a good draft, shed some salary and take a step forward you don’t think FA will appreciate the work being done?
- 1970vintage

I would hope he does, but management said themselves they think we're close to making the playoffs.

I think ownership wants playoffs for the 50th and they think we took enough of a step this year that adding a piece or 2 and getting some luck in the injury department will get us in.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:52 PM ET
Oh, I'd trade OJ for him in a heartbeat lol, just found it interesting that Serg is a whipping boy in Tampa
- Nucker101

You should be careful with that kind of talk, you'll get a lot of attention for suggesting we trade for a Dman with defensive deficiencies.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 18 @ 4:53 PM ET
young guy, not surprising. God fans are impatient.
- Bettmanhatesus


fa·nat·i·cal

- filled with excessive and single-minded zeal.
- obsessively concerned with something.

Synonyms: zealous, extremist, extreme, militant, dogmatic, sectarian, bigoted, rabid, maniacal, radical, diehard, activist.


Not that surprising.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 18 @ 4:58 PM ET
I would hope he does, but management said themselves they think we're close to making the playoffs.

I think ownership wants playoffs for the 50th and they think we took enough of a step this year that adding a piece or 2 and getting some luck in the injury department will get us in.

- NorthNuck


I don’t disagree with this (I mean, I think it’s ludicrous but I agree they think it), but I still don’t think it’s a win or you’re out situation. If that’s the situation, I wouldn’t trust a GM to do what’s right long term, and I’d fire him right now.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 18 @ 4:59 PM ET
Can we just get all of them, problem solved
- Bettmanhatesus


There was a brief moment during the season that I thought JB might load up on picks this draft. But someone reminded me I shouldn't expect nice things.

Sure would have been nice to have a few more 1st round picks like Ducks, Kings, Avalanche, NYR, Sabres, etc. You know, like other rebuilding teams.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 18 @ 5:01 PM ET
I don’t disagree with this (I mean, I think it’s ludicrous but I agree they think it), but I still don’t think it’s a win or you’re out situation. If that’s the situation, I wouldn’t trust a GM to do what’s right long term, and I’d fire him right now.
- 1970vintage

I guess we'll see. This is the last year of JBs contract right? If he gets extended during the summer perhaps we'll have our answer.
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