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anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Apr 19 @ 6:54 PM ET
Nashville did not make or win the SCF and only started making the playoffs when getting Subban

Washington is a success story built from drafting

Name another one.

- VANTEL

started making the playoffs? they have only missed 3 years since 05/06?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 6:55 PM ET
What about trading #6 + more young assets for Subban


Or trying to trade for pending UFA Lucic?



- Nucker101

Lol what about those “rumoured” trades. Aquilini taking short cuts again if they are true.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 19 @ 6:56 PM ET
Look where they are now.

Canucks make the playoffs next year and miss the next 4 years

As long as they have something to market.

- A_SteamingLombardi

You gotta suck & be major lucky 4x to be as as sad as them. No chance we could waste 4-1oa’s.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:00 PM ET
yeah, it should be the ace in the hole to put you over the top - not get you to the dance. You wouldn't pop a cialis when you go out in hopes you find a partner, you only take it once you know you are in!
- anavar



Who is the Ace in the hole we are waiting for? You think Boldy is the difference maker in 3 years?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 19 @ 7:00 PM ET
Nashville did not make or win the SCF and only started making the playoffs when getting Subban

Washington is a success story built from drafting

Name another one.

- VANTEL

Why would it be only from drafting ? Chicago drafted everyone but Hossa. That's still building through the draft.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 19 @ 7:01 PM ET
I can't think of any but name one team that has won the cup building through the draft only?
- VANTEL

Hawks pretty much did.
Who wants to be as horrible as they were for many years? Not me cuz no guarantees.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:02 PM ET
Why would it be only from drafting ? Chicago drafted everyone but Hossa. That's still building through the draft.
- neem55



This is my point . I think you can't just wait and draft . I am okay with trades
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 19 @ 7:06 PM ET
This is my point . I think you can't just wait and draft . I am okay with trades
- VANTEL


Trades are the easiest way to improve imo
Every team drafts & can develop or get lucky.
UFA’s are always overpriced & predicated on cap space & usually poor judgement.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 19 @ 7:07 PM ET
Kinda weird Boston stole our fat opera guy thing
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
This is my point . I think you can't just wait and draft . I am okay with trades
- VANTEL

Sure. But you have to have the core in place. So the question is whether we do. I think it’s a bit closer than some seem to think. But Chicago was winning and dangerous before Hossa. No need to trade until we actually start being a playoff team. I really like:
Bo
Ep
Bb
TS
QH

As core guys. Demko isnt far off. Dont trade core guys.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
No one says never make trades or sign good UFA players, but that should be the next step once you have a good young nhl core that’s good enough to make the playoffs first
- Nucker101

Exactly.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 19 @ 7:14 PM ET
No. The playoffs are magical and anything can happen.
- Marwood

You really think we have ni chance against Calgary? They’re about to get knocked out to the last WC. I don’t think were a playoff team next year but we will be on the bubble. And it’s all JB.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:16 PM ET
Canucks are drafting their 5 th top 10 pick this year.

Christ even Pettersson said go find me a decent winger. You are the one that reported that.

- VANTEL


I’d tell EP to sit tight and look at the recent UFA signings, including the 6M 4th liner on his own team. I’d tell him that we’ll sign a big fish once we’re a playoff team.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:16 PM ET
This is my point . I think you can't just wait and draft . I am okay with trades
- VANTEL

When the team has built a solid core and then has a surplus in one position or another to use to trade, to answer a deficiency in the line up.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
Sure. But you have to have the core in place. So the question is whether we do. I think it’s a bit closer than some seem to think. But Chicago was winning and dangerous before Hossa. No need to trade until we actually start being a playoff team. I really like:
Bo
Ep
Bb
TS
QH

As core guys. Demko isnt far off. Dont trade core guys.

- neem55

This.

This is what everyone is saying, not sure what Vantel is arguing about. You want us to sign big name UFA’s or trade picks/prospects away after missing the playoffs?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
You really think we have ni chance against Calgary? They’re about to get knocked out to the last WC. I don’t think were a playoff team next year but we will be on the bubble. And it’s all JB.
- neem55

Yes.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 19 @ 7:18 PM ET
Why would it be only from drafting ? Chicago drafted everyone but Hossa. That's still building through the draft.
- neem55

that's not quite true , Khabibulin was a free agent signing that got them to there first final , only to lose , Ladd was a trade deadline acquisition , Brian Campbell was a FA signing, as was Huet and Turco , FRolik was a trade and so on and so on , it takes a lot of moves and picks to make a winning team, but doing nothing and just waiting and hoping your picks develop is not the way
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
You really think we have ni chance against Calgary? They’re about to get knocked out to the last WC. I don’t think were a playoff team next year but we will be on the bubble. And it’s all JB.
- neem55



I think moving Hutton Pouliot Biega Schaller off the team we win at least 4 more games .

That is without signing a UFA or making one or two trades.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
When the team has built a solid core and then has a surplus in one position or another to use to trade, to answer a deficiency in the line up.
- Marwood

Didn't we have a surplus of 2nd rd picks?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
It is one long season to make the PO’s & so much can go right or wrong. Deeper teams tend to overcome more than a team like ours can.

In the PO’s it’s all about compete & systems & where legit players show their worth. Other than riding a hot goalie it’s all hands on board or it’s sayonara baby.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Apr 19 @ 7:20 PM ET
4500 lb Great White found dead with a giant sea turtle stuck in its jaw.






- A_SteamingLombardi

Great!
The Seattle Sea Turtles for when the Sharks bite off more than they can chew.🙃
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 19 @ 7:21 PM ET
Every PO year some unheralded players blossom as their coming out.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 19 @ 7:21 PM ET
that's not quite true , Khabibulin was a free agent signing that got them to there first final , only to lose , Ladd was a trade deadline acquisition , Brian Campbell was a FA signing, as was Huet and Turco , FRolik was a trade and so on and so on , it takes a lot of moves and picks to make a winning team, but doing nothing and just waiting and hoping your picks develop is not the way
- onesmallleap

Really reaching on who core players are. I agree Ladd was. That’s about it.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
Really reaching on who core players are. I agree Ladd was. That’s about it.
- neem55

Campbell and Frolik were pretty good for them
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
This.

This is what everyone is saying, not sure what Vantel is arguing about. You want us to sign big name UFA’s or trade picks/prospects away after missing the playoffs?

- Nucker101



How many people make a core ? I heard Lefty say about 7 . I can agree with that.

Edler Bo BB EP Marky QH TS

Sub Core

AG JV TD

What are we waiting for?
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