Could we trade for #42 Trevor Moore
- Colbyboy

Out of curiosity, why the interest in Trevor Moore? Don't know much about him and he's never been brought up before. A simple web search pulls up a Leafs forward prospect who played 20+ games this season.

Brandon Saad (from Pittsburgh) to the Pens for Doumalin

That Backlund stick penalty to even up the game 2-2 seemed like incidental contact of the game, but I like long series...

Out of curiosity, why the interest in Trevor Moore? Don't know much about him and he's never been brought up before. A simple web search pulls up a Leafs forward prospect who played 20+ games this season.
- AEL_Fox

Watched him in this playoff series against Boston
Tenacious 4th liner - hits - good hands - fast skater
What Hawks need on the third line

Hey Justin. Keep up the good work.

I just wanted to mention to the crowd that states "Why finish 8th and get swept"....

There is no doubt our hawks had many flaws. And, quite likely WOULD have been bounced in the first round in short order....

BUT.....NOBODY gave the Avs much of a chance against Flames, yet...one game from round 2. Nor the Jackets over the "unbeatable" Lightning...and many thought NYI were just an aboration.

Nothing is guaranteed, and you just have to get to the dance to have a chance. Now, don't get me wrong here....I like our 3rd overall pick. And with our defence and goaltending I would expect a 4 or 5 game ousting.....still....you never know...

Get to the playoffs NO MATTER WHAT, it is the BEST time of year. Then, let the chips fall where they may.

Congrats to the Jackets, maybe Avs, and may they ride deep into the playoffs!!!

Could we trade for #42 Trevor Moore
- Colbyboy

Pretty sure he is on a Cap friendly contract. Leafs need those type. He is not what they will be moving....think Nylander, gardiner, kapanen....THOSE are the trouble spots and the type of players the Leafs will be looking to unload....not all of them, but at least ONE, maybe two of those 3 will be out of there....

Pretty sure he is on a Cap friendly contract. Leafs need those type. He is not what they will be moving....think Nylander, gardiner, kapanen....THOSE are the trouble spots and the type of players the Leafs will be looking to unload....not all of them, but at least ONE, maybe two of those 3 will be out of there....
- hawk35

I just checked on Trevor Moore. 775k for the next TWO years. No way Leafs move him unless a bigger contract goes too. Leaf will need several "cheapos" after they ink Marner to 10 million a year Cap hit. They are going to be in VERY VERY bad Cap Hell. Guys like Moore will have to occupy 3-4 spots in their roster just to make it work.

They should at least shop Gus, he’s their most tradable asset, and on a defensively suspect team like the Hawks, he’s a luxury they can’t afford.
- Ogilthorpe2

Kind of ironic thinking about Gus and.what he represents. What he represents in another way,too, os viewed as ironic..

Imagine Chicago comes to your town and you go to the game. Gus makes some great outlet passes and unloads some cannon shots. Fan next to you mutters, wow everyone has these type teally giod offensive guys.

Later in the season you are at anither game and you are impressed with two bookend large tough and good skaters. They are disrupting the flow of play and look to be descent skill guys - both grab a couple of points.
"Wow, reminds me when Lindros broke in," another fan sitting near you exclaims

If Gus were traded one of Cozins or Dach even Turcotte could be renumeration.

Do you think we need Gus more than a Dach or Cozens?

At least next year we may find Gus improves. A call to a more disciplined team wide defence pays dividends sooner or later.

Watched him in this playoff series against Boston
Tenacious 4th liner - hits - good hands - fast skater
What Hawks need on the third line
- Colbyboy

What the Hawks need are defensemen, Moore would be a nice to have.

What the Hawks need are defensemen, Moore would be a nice to have.
- paulr

There were a lot more questions headed into last offseason, but how defense is addressed for next year seems to be the biggest for this one...that and who the Hawks pick at 3.

I could see them adding one dman through trade (seems most likely) and I think Jokiharju will likely be with the Hawks for a whole season next year.

I can still see them addressing defense with some forward additions that are good or decent two way players to help round out there bottom 6.

Not saying Moore is the guy, but I think there are players out there that could help. Darth and others have brought up Tanev quite a bit and I think other posters still, are on the right track with the suggestion of poaching talent on some of the cash strapped teams...where some of their good bottom 6 depth are potentially nice to haves for them.

What the Hawks need are defensemen, Moore would be a nice to have.
- paulr

I see what you did there Paulie

Up front, I'd like to see the Hawks entertain the idea of signing Brock Nelson as the 3C. I'd even consider Eberle if they can get him on a decent deal, which then might allow you to free up Saad in a package for a defenseman and then sort of have a lateral move at the #2/3 wing position.

Also, I think who they draft at #3 is going to be interesting. Do you take a guy like Cozens and see if he can make the team as an 18 year old? Or do you go with a guy like Byram and keep stacking your chips on defense to see who's going to pan out to be a top pairing guy. I know we all are high on Boqvist, Mitchell, Beaudin, and Joker, but not all of them are going to turn out to be top pairing guys, that's just reality.

Lastly, because the UFA market sucks and trading for a defenseman is expensive, you might just have to roll with a guy like Stralman and hope that slightly improves your pairings. This UFA defense crop is so terrible it's not worth overpaying and signing those guys listed to long deals when you have young defensemen on the way in the next 1-3 years. The issue here is literally roster space since you have some contracts on the back end that are unmoveable. Personally, I'd like to see the Hawks push hard to deal Keith to Florida. You know he'd enjoy playing for Q, and Keith's attitude and effort have been dog-crap this year, it's pretty noticeable. I'd deal him now while you can get something for him and just open up a space on defense. Seabrook maybe you can convince Seattle to take in a trade next summer since it's close to where he grew up.
- Budi1782

Pass on Nelson. He will be expensive and he is not great on face offs, which are two things we do not need.

Some make believe defense rosters for the next few years depending if the Hawks pick up 1 or 2 experienced players this summer. Not looking at pairings or specific LD, RD

I'm also assuming Keith and Seabs aren't waiving their NMC and will be around. If they are moved there is defense depth in the system to take their place.

Also, I can see one one or two of the prospects moved over the next couple of years in order to return a different roster piece. Maybe a young stud goalie to replace Cro?

One pickup.. assume Chiarot or McNabb for 3 years

19-20 Keith, Seabrook, Gus, Murphy, Joki, Chiarot/McNabb, Dahlstrom/Forsling

Assume Gus is gone via trade or free agency
20-21 Keith,Seabrook,Murphy, Joki, Chiarot/McNabb, Mitchell/Dahlstrom/Forsling, Boqvist/Beaudin

Assume one of Chiarot/McNabb or Murphy lost at Seattle expansion draft
21-22 Keith, Seabrook, Joki, 2 of Boqvist/Beaudin/Mitchell, 2 of Chiarot/McNabb/Murphy

Two pickups... assume Chiarot and McNabb for 3 years

19-20 Keith, Seabrook, Gus, Murphy, Joki, Chiarot, McNabb,

20-21 Keith, Seabrook, Murphy, Joki, Chiarot, McNabb, Boqvist/Beaudin/Mitchell

21-22 Keith, Seabrook, Joki, 2 of Murphy/Chiarot/McNabb, 2 of Boqvist/Beaudin/Mitchell

I agree that both Boq and Gus should not be on the same team. Everyone is so quick to trade Gus for whatever quick return they could get. But, what kind of return would Boqvist return? Like most I would much rather keep Boqvist, but the question should still be asked. If Gus would resign for under $4 MN per season, would it be crazy to sell high on the young swede? Most claim we do not have the assets to bring in a top 4 D man, but Boq would easily do the trick imo plus some.

I agree that both Boq and Gus should not be on the same team. Everyone is so quick to trade Gus for whatever quick return they could get. But, what kind of return would Boqvist return? Like most I would much rather keep Boqvist, but the question should still be asked. If Gus would resign for under $4 MN per season, would it be crazy to sell high on the young swede? Most claim we do not have the assets to bring in a top 4 D man, but Boq would easily do the trick imo plus some.
- zm333

If Boqvist projects to have high, super offensive upside, like Gus, why not be patient and keep the 18 year old and instead move the 28 year old? I also think Gus could fetch a pretty significant return. Like somebody posted earlier,a 60pt Dman isn't easy to come by for his contract price and what his next extension could look like.

If Boqvist projects to have high, super offensive upside, like Gus, why not be patient and keep the 18 year old and instead move the 28 year old? I also think Gus could fetch a pretty significant return. Like somebody posted earlier,a 60pt Dman isn't easy to come by for his contract price and what his next extension could look like.
- frafra

Gus and #3 for #1

Cannot, I repeat, cannot afford to trade Gus. Would lose too much offense from the back end. Please somehow trade Keith to a team under the delusion that he’s a good dman. Maybe Q will bite on him. He certainly has had his moments, but overall he’s overrated, over the hill and overestimated as far as teaching the youngsters (quote
“ this isn’t a developmental league”).

Gus and #3 for #1
- riozzo

So then why would we want to move him???

Could we trade for #42 Trevor Moore
- Colbyboy

Yeah if we thought the line up needed a undersized low scoring OLDER USA developmental prospect.

Sure the game has changed, but when a team win's Lord Stanley's Cup that has no over six foot forwards, then Would consider DeBrincat, Kahun, Sikura, and company another guy they can exchange wardrobe with...

If I were Stan, I might think about trading down to a team like LA, who got snuffed in the lottery. As I see it, there isn’t that much of skill gap between Cozens, Dach, and Tourcotte, and at least and maybe two will be there at the 5th slot.

Maybe something like the #3 pick and Gus to LA for the #5 pick, Forbot, and Kempe.


Blackhawks get a 3C and top 4 shutdown guy, LA can draft the Russian for their rebuild and get some firepower from the back end in Gus.

Gus and #3 for #1
- riozzo

No team is trading out of one- in 20014 in Carolina the hosts traded up to slot #4

and the sedan sisters Vancouver Brian Burke tarred up into the second slot.

It is an impossibility b/c scouting is os much more intensive and fan media now has them thinking they know things and moves like that no matter how the team PR and GM try to paint the reasons ALWAYS linger.

Drop down a draft tier to add Gus when his team doesn't want him (b/c they are unloading him) ?

does float to the fans.

Gus wins us nothing soon, right?

So I do understand.

Find a team tom trade with where the return is one for one and the return player has a longer term Cap reasonable contract and his entire contract affords the Hawks with a
reliable player where they need one, and he isn't in the way so you have to send him elsewhere due to youngsters emerging as his equals.

If I were Stan, I might think about trading down to a team like LA, who got snuffed in the lottery. As I see it, there isn’t that much of skill gap between Cozens, Dach, and Tourcotte, and at least and maybe two will be there at the 5th slot.

Maybe something like the #3 pick and Gus to LA for the #5 pick, Forbot, and Kempe.


Blackhawks get a 3C and top 4 shutdown guy, LA can draft the Russian for their rebuild and get some firepower from the back end in Gus.
- Bjm84

I like that trade, and I think LA might go for that. Kempe never has reached the expectations they have had for him, and is like Perlini in that sometimes it looks like his mind is elsewhere, but he has talentand he can scoot.

No team is trading out of one- in 20014 in Carolina the hosts traded up to slot #4

and the sedan sisters Vancouver Brian Burke tarred up into the second slot.

It is an impossibility b/c scouting is os much more intensive and fan media now has them thinking they know things and moves like that no matter how the team PR and GM try to paint the reasons ALWAYS linger.

Drop down a draft tier to add Gus when his team doesn't want him (b/c they are unloading him) ?

does float to the fans.

Gus wins us nothing soon, right?

So I do understand.

Find a team tom trade with where the return is one for one and the return player has a longer term Cap reasonable contract and his entire contract affords the Hawks with a
reliable player where they need one, and he isn't in the way so you have to send him elsewhere due to youngsters emerging as his equals.
- wiz1901

I just hope Stan can acquire some solid stay at home D who know how to keep the slot clear. Makes you appreciate what guys like Rozy and Hammer brought to the team.

Cannot, I repeat, cannot afford to trade Gus. Would lose too much offense from the back end. Please somehow trade Keith to a team under the delusion that he’s a good dman. Maybe Q will bite on him. He certainly has had his moments, but overall he’s overrated, over the hill and overestimated as far as teaching the youngsters (quote
“ this isn’t a developmental league”).
- Nmbr1

Let's first assume that he would waive his NMC (which he has implied he has no intention of doing) and that you can find a taker for him that will send back quality return for an overall overrated player. Let's also disregard the fancy stats (PARTLY because I don't think they take the nuances of the game into account all that well). He put up 40 points and was a plus player on a team that was outscored by 22 goals this year. His cap hit is also only 5.5M/year, and still eats 23mins per night. Where else are you going to find that production at that price?

Terrible news out of GA today....Chet Coppock has passed.

https://www.nbcsports.com...pock-dies-after-car-crash