I never said you did. The Flyers are way to soft. The Flyers have very little push back. They have a couple of physical d men...but that's it. Richards played the game the right way. I will always take a big, skilled physical player who can skate over a small skilled player who can skate.
- landros 2

Sorry, I was not saying you were wrong, just adding to your thoughts.

I think you can do both in todays game. If you want to win in the playoff's you have to be real good, but you also have to be tough. Toughness isn't about fighting...it's about being willing to pay a price that your opponent might not be willing to. I watched Marner block two shots in the last few seconds of last nights win....that's paying a price and showing toughness....from a guy that's "5,9" and 165 Lb's.
- landros 2

correct and imo many think it is...

your spot on. What killed me was hextall the player knew this yet the hextall the GM completely ignored it.

bottom line is you need a little of it all obviously. flyers just been way to easy to play against the last 6/7 years. embarrassing really

Well the compete level is an interesting take. That's something you have or you don't imo. How would you address that issue?

just watching these playoffs compared to regular season is like night and day. soft teams dont cut it.
- daryl stanley

I think you're talking about Tampa vs Columbus?

Neither team looks that tough on paper.

The difference to me is that the Jackets have been in PO survival mode for 2-months, and the Bolts have faced very little adversity all season. It shows in the difference in intensity.

You understand what you keep saying doesn't work that way. You eventually have to push some chips in.

You might get a window but eventually you just have to start over. Every team will eventually have to rebuild in a way.


I am not saying you don't keep drafting and developing players but you eventually need to push yourslf forward and that might mean moving some pieces to get there.
- J35Bacher

It absolutely does work that way. I've posted on this many times previously. I think the idea of trying to push the timeline of how fast this team gets to where it needs to go is the wrong approach at this time. I want a team with a wide window of contention over a significant period of time. It's about timing. I don't feel the time is right to start and try to buy their way there in free agency. As far as trades, you should always be open to good smart trades. However I don't feel that trading youth for older players is the way to go at this time. In a year or two, the team will have a much better idea of what it's holes are and the what the finishing touches need to be. Still a lot of youth on this team including a 20 year old goaltender to think that it is a team that is close. Never know what might happen but I'm focused on what is the most likely path for this team.

Lack of vision and creativity?
- youarewrong

Do you realize how silly you come off with these statements? As if playing fantasy hockey and putting a bunch of names together is actual vision and creativity. Do you actually think the absurd trades you suggest show vision and creativity? Such as trading for Lucic just to buy him out?

It absolutely does work that way. I've posted on this many times previously. I think the idea of trying to push the timeline of how fast this team gets to where it needs to go is the wrong approach at this time. I want a team with a wide window of contention over a significant period of time. It's about timing. I don't feel the time is right to start and try to buy their way there in free agency. As far as trades, you should always be open to good smart trades. However I don't feel that trading youth for older players is the way to go at this time. In a year or two, the team will have a much better idea of what it's holes are and the what the finishing touches need to be. Still a lot of youth on this team including a 20 year old goaltender to think that it is a team that is close. Never know what might happen but I'm focused on what is the most likely path for this team.
- MJL

Bring in one or two free agents isn't buying your way to a cup.

Also we are now at year 6? When would you like to see this thing start to get past the playoff bubble team phase.

AS we continue to "draft and develop" other teams get good as well so it's not like we are putting ourselves a head of teams like NJ, Toronto, Colorado, AZ, NYR.


No matter what good prospects we think we have, we still have no idea if they will be NHL contributors.

So are we going to wait until year 7? 8?

Do you realize how silly you come off with these statements? As if playing fantasy hockey and putting a bunch of names together is actual vision and creativity. Do you actually think the absurd trades you suggest show vision and creativity? Such as trading for Lucic just to buy him out?
- MJL

Not disagreeing with you but didn't Colorado essentially trade for Orpick to buy him out?

They took on Orpick to get Grubauer

So teams do do it.

Bring in one or two free agents isn't buying your way to a cup.

Also we are now at year 6? When would you like to see this thing start to get past the playoff bubble team phase.

AS we continue to "draft and develop" other teams get good as well so it's not like we are putting ourselves a head of teams like NJ, Toronto, Colorado, AZ, NYR.


No matter what good prospects we think we have, we still have no idea if they will be NHL contributors.

So are we going to wait until year 7? 8?
- J35Bacher

Spot on, what should we wait until the new core is all 25-28, from TK and Patrick to Frost?

Bring in one or two free agents isn't buying your way to a cup.

Also we are now at year 6? When would you like to see this thing start to get past the playoff bubble team phase.

AS we continue to "draft and develop" other teams get good as well so it's not like we are putting ourselves a head of teams like NJ, Toronto, Colorado, AZ, NYR.


No matter what good prospects we think we have, we still have no idea if they will be NHL contributors.

So are we going to wait until year 7? 8?
- J35Bacher

I don't view it as year 6. It took a good two years to add prospects and improve the cap situation. It takes time. I think using free agency for big money players is the wrong move at this point in time. I fully admit it is the quickest and best way to improve the team right now but I'm looking for more than to just get better.

Do you realize how silly you come off with these statements? As if playing fantasy hockey and putting a bunch of names together is actual vision and creativity. Do you actually think the absurd trades you suggest show vision and creativity? Such as trading for Lucic just to buy him out?
- MJL

They call it silly season for a reason. If we all just waited for someone else to post an original idea just to poop all over it, there wouldn't be any posts. My absurd trades don't offend anyone unlike some people.

Not disagreeing with you but didn't Colorado essentially trade for Orpick to buy him out?

They took on Orpick to get Grubauer

So teams do do it.
- J35Bacher

I don't believe I said that is has never been done.

Spot on, what should we wait until the new core is all 25-28, from TK and Patrick to Frost?
- ClaudeFather

No cause then the guys we draft after them will need time to grow.

They call it silly season for a reason. If we all just waited for someone else to post an original idea just to poop all over it, there wouldn't be any posts. My absurd trades don't offend anyone unlike some people.
- youarewrong

Doubling down.

I don't view it as year 6. It took a good two years to add prospects and improve the cap situation. It takes time. I think using free agency for big money players is the wrong move at this point in time. I fully admit it is the quickest and best way to improve the team right now but I'm looking for more than to just get better.
- MJL

It's year 6.

You don't get to change the facts.

Do i think it's working? i don't know. Yes we have cap space but depends on what we do with it. We have prospects but depends if they are any good. I thought Patrick was most NHL read when drafted but now I watch Heiskanen in Dallas and think he might have been a better selection as he looks legit.

Do i know Frost is going to be an NHL contributor? I hope so.

But if we missed on some of these "great" prospects our rebuild just gets longer and maybe has to be scrapped and started over.

Right now, I do know we have a NHL roster that can compete and with some tweaking should make the playoffs next season. Do nothing and wait another 2 years of "development" I don't know if that is the case as guys like Giroux, Voracek and even van Riemsdyk are aging.

To sum up part of Flyersbuzz..

Ermahgerd they better not hire a retread coach..
Team hires Hak..
Ermahgerd they better not hire some no name coach..
Team hires AV
Ermagerd they didnt take a long enough time, they didnt do enough investigating, they didnt do variable A, B or C.


I have no issues with the AV hiring and I need the Fletcher work to play out a bit. This off season will be telling for Fletcher.

Not disagreeing with you but didn't Colorado essentially trade for Orpick to buy him out?

They took on Orpick to get Grubauer

So teams do do it.
- J35Bacher

Teams do it, but not with players who have a $6M annual cap hit for another 4 seasons. Not to mention, Lucic has a NMC for the next two seasons, with the final two seasons having a modified NTC/NMC.

The only Lucic trade that remotely makes any sense is for a team needing to get to the cap floor, and doesn't really care about anything else... sort of like dumping your bad contract in Arizona.

lolz
- youarewrong

Mrazek

2014-15: 2.38 GAA 0.918 SV%
2015-16: 2.33 GAA 0.921 SV%
2016-17: 3.04 GAA 0.901 SV%
2017-18: 2.89 GAA 0.910 SV% - With DET
2017-18: 3.04 GAA 0.891 SV% - With PHI
2018-19: 2.39 GAA 0.914 SV%

McBackup - Career is long, too lazy to put all his numbers

2014-15: 2.88 GAA 0.914 SV%
2015-16: 3.30 GAA 0.890 SV%
2016-17: 2.39 GAA 0.924 SV% - CBJ
2016-17: 2.85 GAA 0.914 SV% - TOR
2017-18: 2.14 GAA 0.934 SV%
2018-19: 2.58 GAA 0.912 SV%

Solid numbers but what do I know right?

They call it silly season for a reason. If we all just waited for someone else to post an original idea just to poop all over it, there wouldn't be any posts. My absurd trades don't offend anyone unlike some people.
- youarewrong

From a hockey stand point, I find most of your posts offensive.

It's year 6.

You don't get to change the facts.

Do i think it's working? i don't know. Yes we have cap space but depends on what we do with it. We have prospects but depends if they are any good. I thought Patrick was most NHL read when drafted but now I watch Heiskanen in Dallas and think he might have been a better selection as he looks legit.

Do i know Frost is going to be an NHL contributor? I hope so.

But if we missed on some of these "great" prospects our rebuild just gets longer and maybe has to be scrapped and started over.

Right now, I do know we have a NHL roster that can compete and with some tweaking should make the playoffs next season. Do nothing and wait another 2 years of "development" I don't know if that is the case as guys like Giroux, Voracek and even van Riemsdyk are aging.
- J35Bacher

I see that it took a number of years to improve what was left when Hextall took over as the facts.

So I think we can all agree this team needs a 3C, either UFA signing or trade. We also need a good veteran D to pair with Provy. It will be interesting to see what his new contract will look like, and then the ball will be rolling.

Also need to sign a durable vet goalie to pair with Hart. I was thinking that's why they made the trade for Talbot, but he looked awful. Although the whole team in front of him looked bad. Do we resign Talbot just cause he is Carter Hart's homeboy?

So.. 1. new head coach: check

2. Provy's new contract: maybe by the end of the week? He wants to play in the IIHF, doesn't that start today?

3. Next, trade or sign UFA 3C option.

4. Sign backup goalie.

5. Resign Simmonds

It's year 6.

You don't get to change the facts.

Do i think it's working? i don't know. Yes we have cap space but depends on what we do with it. We have prospects but depends if they are any good. I thought Patrick was most NHL read when drafted but now I watch Heiskanen in Dallas and think he might have been a better selection as he looks legit.

Do i know Frost is going to be an NHL contributor? I hope so.

But if we missed on some of these "great" prospects our rebuild just gets longer and maybe has to be scrapped and started over.

Right now, I do know we have a NHL roster that can compete and with some tweaking should make the playoffs next season. Do nothing and wait another 2 years of "development" I don't know if that is the case as guys like Giroux, Voracek and even van Riemsdyk are aging.
- J35Bacher

the youth simply didn't produce enough to bring Hextall's plan into focus and make it a success. It really looked like he wanted to stay the course going forward....and thank god ownership stepped in. 6 years was long enough to know that the plan wasn't working.

the youth simply didn't produce enough to bring Hextall's plan into focus and make it a success. It really looked like he wanted to stay the course going forward....and thank god ownership stepped in. 6 years was long enough to know that the plan wasn't working.
- landros 2

The gap between the veteran producers and youth is still too large, bringing in a proven producer would be wise. If the kids can step up next year then we could potentially looking at a season with hopes of winning a couple rounds in April. We still need to add scoring though.

Its unbelievable the amount and content of the female doging being made about this hire. Its so silly in fact, that I am convinced now that the culprits are just trolling for the fun of it. Complaining just to stir the pot.

What a back read that was.....


Fire Hak, we should never have hired an inexperienced college guy. We need an experienced coach!!!

Hire an experienced guy with a mile long resume. He is not the right hire, he is a retread!

Puhleeeehz.

Clowns gonna clown.

From a hockey stand point, I find most of your posts offensive.
- MJL

Please feel free to not read and not comment. Would make us all much happier.

Please feel free to not read and not comment. Would make us all much happier.
- youarewrong

Two things. One, not sure who made you the spokesman for the group. Secondly and most importantly. how about we discuss hockey and opinions and not discuss people? Like you're frequently guilty of.