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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 14 @ 1:57 PM ET
1stCavVet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 02.23.2019

Apr 14 @ 1:58 PM ET
IMO they need to go back to ...

19-87-59
17-71-81
12-27-72
46-7-10

- kfinl170

I let 46 center and put Johnson in,kid has wheels
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
I let 46 center and put Johnson in,kid has wheels
- 1stCavVet

Cullen has been the most noticeable forward and you want to take him out to let a vanilla LW play center in a playoff game.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 14 @ 2:00 PM ET
I really don't understand why anyone thinks toggling the lines is going to do anything.

The Isles know how to stifle the Pens' system. The Pens' need to change their system; this is where proper coaching comes in. You need to adapt in-game and Sully isn't doing that. Toggle all you want, but if you keep trying the same plan it's irrelevant.
1stCavVet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 02.23.2019

Apr 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
Cullen has been the most noticeable forward and you want to take him out to let a vanilla LW play center in a playoff game.
- jchst22

Lol,sorry meant to say 53
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:03 PM ET
Not saying the Blueger is a game changer, but if he sits for ZAR next game, Sullivan should be fired. Rease's shot makes Dumo look like Brent Burns.
- madmike71

Blueger is at least the same 5v5 as ZAR and worlds better as a pker. No reason for that scrub being in the line up especially after missing the end of the regular season.

Don’t see the need from the coaching staff to plug him in. It’s like they want one echl player per line
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
I really don't understand why anyone thinks toggling the lines is going to do anything.

The Isles know how to stifle the Pens' system. The Pens' need to change their system; this is where proper coaching comes in. You need to adapt in-game and Sully isn't doing that. Toggle all you want, but if you keep trying the same plan it's irrelevant.

- Rinosaur

Not a system issue. If you have Letang Crosby and Malkin you should beat a system of mediocre players.

Good for the islanders if they pull this off, but I think skill should overcome any system
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
I really don't understand why anyone thinks toggling the lines is going to do anything.

The Isles know how to stifle the Pens' system. The Pens' need to change their system; this is where proper coaching comes in. You need to adapt in-game and Sully isn't doing that. Toggle all you want, but if you keep trying the same plan it's irrelevant.

- Rinosaur

Because Guentzel playing awful hockey has nothing to do with our system. He’s just playing flat out bad. Sooo if we can get someone up there to be effective then maybe we luck our way back into this series. Maybe Rust comes back up and becomes Talbot 2.0 or maybe McCann isn’t as hurt as I think he is or maybe Kessel comes up and says F you to all of his doubters.

Playing poorly and playing in a poor system are two different things. They can happen at the same time, sure but that’s not always the case
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Well here it comes boys. 20 minutes for the season
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Because Guentzel playing awful hockey has nothing to do with our system. He’s just playing flat out bad. Sooo if we can get someone up there to be effective then maybe we luck our way back into this series. Maybe Rust comes back up and becomes Talbot 2.0 or maybe McCann isn’t as hurt as I think he is or maybe Kessel comes up and says F you to all of his doubters.

Playing poorly and playing in a poor system are two different things. They can happen at the same time, sure but that’s not always the case

- WSCTeton17

You don’t take a 40q guy off the top line. He had chances....just needs to finish
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
Not a system issue. If you have Letang Crosby and Malkin you should beat a system of mediocre players.
- jchst22


Wrong.

This is very simple what's going on right now.

1)The Isles clog neutral ice and hang back forcing the Pens to dump and chase.

2)The Pens pinch too much and have too many players going deep to retrieve pucks.

3) The Islanders have all the room in the world for odd-man rushes.

4) Rinse and repeat

STOP IT! They need to almost do the same exact thing and throw it back in their face.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
RW is tweeting about golf btw lol. Yuuuup. No need to watch the game and provide actual insight beyond your stat sheet. At least turnovers are on a stat sheet somewhere. That tells a big part of this series
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
Because Guentzel playing awful hockey has nothing to do with our system. He’s just playing flat out bad. Sooo if we can get someone up there to be effective then maybe we luck our way back into this series. Maybe Rust comes back up and becomes Talbot 2.0 or maybe McCann isn’t as hurt as I think he is or maybe Kessel comes up and says F you to all of his doubters.

Playing poorly and playing in a poor system are two different things. They can happen at the same time, sure but that’s not always the case

- WSCTeton17

G, Dumoulin, and the second pairing are all big problems that have nothing to do with the system. I think you’re right there. I think a lot of the issues we’re having, though, can be addressed through in game strategy, which we’re not seeing, but I don’t think that requires whole scale change of the system. In fact, I think a lot of our problems right now is coming from an attempted whole scale system change between Games 1 and 2 that backfired greatly. Couple the bad coaching with these individual players not playing well and it’s a disaster.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:09 PM ET
You don’t take a 40q guy off the top line. He had chances....just needs to finish
- jchst22

Kessel is a 40 goal guy and we’ve moved him onto the third line a ton. Why is Guentzel not held accountable in your eyes?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
Kessel is a 40 goal guy and we’ve moved him onto the third line a ton. Why is Guentzel not held accountable in your eyes?
- WSCTeton17

To be fair they do that to Kessel mostly to spread out the scoring. He’s rarely if ever actively demoted.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
No urgency from Letang right now. Less foot movement than me in beer league
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
To be fair they do that to Kessel mostly to spread out the scoring. He’s rarely if ever actively demoted.
- Victoro311

I’ve said it numerous times that I would simply bump Jake down to play with Geno. That’s hardly a demotion
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
Kessel is a 40 goal guy and we’ve moved him onto the third line a ton. Why is Guentzel not held accountable in your eyes?
- WSCTeton17

Kessel scored with less on his line. Guentzel never showed that he can do that. Not a time to try that down 2-1 in game three when down in series
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Just skating in mud. No creativity. No “(frank) you” bite to the offense.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
That was the first committed dump I've seen from the Pens where a Pens forward hit the blueline with speed.

Sid with the lateral pass....easily broken up.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Just skating in mud. No creativity. No “(frank) you” bite to the offense.
- Victoro311


It's like they're just laying down.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Trotz should just put a manaquin behind the bench. He’s not needed anymore

Ronco coaching
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 14 @ 2:16 PM ET
You know, I was about to say that effort by Jake on that lost draw wasn’t good enough but after seeing it again Martin is clearly interfering with him. What a surprise
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 14 @ 2:18 PM ET
Ha! (frank) you Robin.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Apr 14 @ 2:19 PM ET
Start dbl shifting ffs.
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