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-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 11 @ 12:39 PM ET

- DarthKane


Yep.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 11 @ 12:40 PM ET
He played 55+ games 7 years in a row (and won 2 cups). His injuries the last two years were directly related to 2 specific hits he took. He played 13 games in a row just recently. If he plays 55+ games next year at a very high level I would think the Hawks would have to consider giving him another contract depending on what options they have to replace him and what his asking price is. You don't win cups without very good goaltending. Delia has not proven himself to be "the man" just yet.
- -Doh-


Unfortunately he is one hit from Lindros land. AND, the NHL just does not protect goaltenders. I don't ever recall seeing goalies run back in the day. Now that they wear a suit of armor everyone thinks it is OK.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
Unfortunately he is one hit from Lindros land. AND, the NHL just does not protect goaltenders. I don't ever recall seeing goalies run back in the day. Now that they wear a suit of armor everyone thinks it is OK.
- riozzo


Back in the day you can knock someone down in front of the net with or without the puck, now it is like flag football
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
Unfortunately he is one hit from Lindros land. AND, the NHL just does not protect goaltenders. I don't ever recall seeing goalies run back in the day. Now that they wear a suit of armor everyone thinks it is OK.
- riozzo


"One hit" from Lindros land and "no hits" from winning a cup for someone else. Let's wait to see what happens next year.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
"One hit" from Lindros land and "no hits" from winning a cup for someone else. Let's wait to see what happens next year.
- -Doh-

Last time I looked they won the cup with Niemi who played an underwhelming SCF. I am with you looking forward to next year.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 11 @ 12:59 PM ET
Delusions are flexible.
- mohel

Gotta give him credit, tho. Maybe a room with an obstructed view, too.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Can we get into next season before we start worrying about the season after?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:02 PM ET
Oh he won't. He'll retire, forfeit his salary to retire then sign a coaching deal for $500K a season.
- paulr

Maybe they can make him in charge of sump pumps.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
My post where I listed the 2020/21 roster with a guestimate of the cumulative salary cap requirement wasn't meant to be too exact as obviously there can and probably will be some variables between now and the summer of 2020 - it was meant to counter the prevailing thought of many Hawks fans that Stan is going to resemble a thirsty sailor come to port with a wad of cash in his pocket and he's got tons of cap space to spend. Looking at the math should temper that a bit.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:07 PM ET
Can we get into next season before we start worrying about the season after?
- Elbows15


We, the fans, can. Stan can't. If there was a lesson to be learned on how to avoid the level of cap hell the Hawks got themselves into when they gave T&K their $10.5M deals - it's that you shouldn't base your plans on the assumption the cap goes up.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
We, the fans, can. Stan can't. If there was a lesson to be learned on how to avoid the level of cap hell the Hawks got themselves into when they gave T&K their $10.5M deals - it's that you shouldn't base your plans on the assumption the cap goes up.
- EbonyRaptor

Or win Cups. lol
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 1:25 PM ET
We, the fans, can. Stan can't. If there was a lesson to be learned on how to avoid the level of cap hell the Hawks got themselves into when they gave T&K their $10.5M deals - it's that you shouldn't base your plans on the assumption the cap goes up.
- EbonyRaptor


Exactly, GM's have to look out a few years and make moves ahead of time.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 11 @ 1:26 PM ET
My post were I listed the 2020/21 roster with a guestimate of the cumulative salary cap requirement wasn't meant to be too exact as obviously there can and probably will be some variables between now and the summer of 2020 - it was meant to counter the prevailing thought of many Hawks fans that Stan is going to resemble a thirsty sailor come to port with a wad of cash in his pocket and he's got tons of cap space to spend. Looking at the math should temper that a bit.
- EbonyRaptor


Hey I saved us 8M for 20-21. We can spend some of that this summer.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
Gotta give him credit, tho. Maybe a room with an obstructed view, too.
- Elbows15


There's some solid creativity there.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
Can we get into next season before we start worrying about the season after?
- Elbows15


No. Next up is the plan to replace Boqvist when he retires.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Apr 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
For all you Tallon lovers

https://theathletic.com/9...aughter-whos-kicking-ass/

- pdx2ord


I'm considering subscribing to The Athletic. Are all of their articles archived, or do they have a limited shelf life on the site?
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 11 @ 1:36 PM ET
Why?

I'm all for signing Tanev but he's not a replacement for Saad. The team needs Saad and Tanev. I was all for trading Anisimov, but I'm not so sure it happens this summer. Maybe next summer but the unless there is a plan to significantly upgrade AA there's not need to get rid of him. Even if the Hawks draft Cozens (fingers crossed) he can still centre the 3rd line (assuming he makes the team) with Saad and AA on his wings.

If the Hawks draft Podkolzin I'm sure they'll want AA around to get him acclimated.

- DarthKane

Agree on all points.

Acquiring a player like Tanev wouldn't be to replace Saad. IMHO, Tanev is a 4th liner who can play a spell or two on the 3rd line if needed due to injuries. Saad is ideally a top 6 forward but am fine with him on his own line (i.e. top 9) apart from Toews and Kane.

Anisimov still brings good things to the rink so moving him would require an upgrade at center. Even if a new center is obtained whether via trade, free agency, or #3 pick, Anisimov could still slide over to wing.

Boilermaker, not picking on you and I'm not an advanced stats person to see what they say about them, but is Eakin a better player than Anisimov? The reason I ask is that if Eakin is brought in but is also easily flipped at next year's TDL, then why acquire him in the first place. Wouldn't it be better to upgrade over Anisimov with a center who can fit longer term with the team?

I guess one reason could be if the Hawks do draft a center at #3 and having a veteran center on a multi-year deal could block the draftee from that pivot spot behind Toews and Strome.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 1:43 PM ET
I'm considering subscribing to The Athletic. Are all of their articles archived, or do they have a limited shelf life on the site?
- Dieselhead


While I haven't gone in depth, I recently went back to 2016 for an article, so it looks like they are all archived. I personally really enjoy all of the content (including podcasts). The nice thing is that you get access to all other teams (that are covered) as well.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:45 PM ET
Hey I saved us 8M for 20-21. We can spend some of that this summer.
- boilermaker100


U da man
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Apr 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
The forward group next season if no free agents are added.

Saad Toews Podkolzin
Cat Strome Kane
Perlini Entwistle Caggiula
Kubalik Kampf Kahun
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Apr 11 @ 1:47 PM ET
No. Next up is the plan to replace Boqvist when he retires.
- mohel


Maybe we can entice Arizona to take the Boqvist boat anchor contract off our hands.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 11 @ 1:57 PM ET
The forward group next season if no free agents are added.

Saad Toews Podkolzin
Cat Strome Kane
Perlini Entwistle Caggiula
Kubalik Kampf Kahun

- SoftServe

Based on your 12 forwards, I would shuffle the bottom 6 a bit. As it is written now, it reads as two 4th lines to me.

IMHO, the 3rd line needs to have strong secondary scoring numbers with players that can collect 35-45 points apiece. Perlini could if he is surrounded by high octane forwards but I don't see Entwistle or Caggiula providing more than say 25 points each.

I guess your 4th line could be the 3rd line since Kahun is capable of 35-45 points. Not sure about Kubalik yet but possible. Kampf is lucky if he can eclipse 20 points so he brings that line down a notch.

Maybe something like:

Saad - Toews - Podkolzin (or other #3 pick)
DeBrincat - Strome - Kane
Perlini - Kahun - Kubalik
Caggiula - Kampf - Entwistle
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
The forward group next season if no free agents are added.

Saad Toews Podkolzin
Cat Strome Kane
Perlini Entwistle Caggiula
Kubalik Kampf Kahun

- SoftServe


I like the optimism (even though I am not as bullish on Podkolzin), but Entwistle going from the Q to starting 3C is a bit of a stretch.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
I like the optimism (even though I am not as bullish on Podkolzin), but Entwistle going from the Q to starting 3C is a bit of a stretch.
- Chunk

I'll be very surprised if anyone the Hawks have make the team right from junior or college. Entwhistle looks good in junior but he's a good player not a star player. Special players like Toews or Kane can make the team right away Entwhistle isnt a special player he also has some parts of his game that some development time in Rockford will address. Personally I think every player should spend some time in the AHL to acclimate him to the pros.
Savard2Secord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Round Lake, IL
Joined: 12.12.2016

Apr 11 @ 2:07 PM ET
Wiz - assuming Kakko has the higher floor, who has the higher ceiling between Kakko and Cozens?
- Assman22


I'm not Wiz but I'm qualified to insert my 2 cents IMO.

Cozens by far has the higher ceiling.

I don't know if anyone remembers hockeyfutures prospect rating/grading system but I would give Cozens a "9.5 D" rating, and I would give Kakko a "9.0 B" rating.

I may be inclined to give Cozens a "10.0 F" rating but that would be a bit redundant.

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