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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 2 @ 4:29 PM ET
Same, tough to see the guy falling off a cliff here production wise. He was underpaid for so long and it seems may never get to "cash in". He is currently looking ta a disappointing summer. A big playoffs is needed.
- ClaudeFather


He signed the wrong deal
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 2 @ 4:30 PM ET
where is Ghost ? What did you get for him? How about Morin
- 3flyerkids

morin has to earn a spot ghost was traded for prospect and pick
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Apr 2 @ 4:36 PM ET
Criteria if we get a new guy on defense...

NHL club with many young, talented defenseman seeks a veteran all-situations plus defenseman, age 27 to 32, who can play the right side, preferably RH, log 22-25 minutes a night, be a leader on and off the ice, has a solid work ethic, mentor the up and coming players, and comes to win.

It’s a big ask. At risk of really stirring the pot...who is out there that meets this?
Erik Karlsson
Jared Spurgeon
Alex Pietrangelo
PK Subban
John Klingberg
Drew Doughty
...?

What are the chances any can be plied away from their current team? In the event that we strike out on meeting all the requirements, which ones would you bend? Why?

I would bend on age and “proven leader” first—substituting minimum age 24 with 3 full years in the NHL and leadership potential. Next try, if that fails, I would bend older on the age—substituting max age of 34 and term of 2 years. Last thing I would bend is playing the right side. If they do that, he would be anchoring the second pairing, and we shouldn’t bend any other qualifications with that one.

- NC Flyers Fan


Spurgeon is interesting. Dude can play a ton of minutes.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Apr 2 @ 4:48 PM ET
My question is, what is another veteran defenseman going to do that Gudas and Mac already doing?

I don’t think fans on this board realize just how good Provorov, Sanheim and Myers already are. We went from not having a number one guy since Kimmo Timonen, to three possibilities. Now some of you want to give up a puzzle niece for a guy who can talk to the players in a tone Gudas can’t?

It just doesn’t make sense to me. Hägg and Ghost are also really good at what they specialize in. They’re not perfect, I’m not even as big a Ghost fan as everyone else but he has elite offensive talent that I’m not ready to move on from.

- SuperSchennBros


This is a good discussion because everyone is probably a little different on this. I give a hard “no” to losing Provy. I don’t think it makes any sense to trade Sanheim or Myers due to age and high upside filling a definite need, so 2 more “no’s.” We have invested time into Morin and he has the ability to reach a solid 2nd pair so my vote is “no” for trading him too. You have to admit...those 4 are young.

I am willing to listen on Ghost, Hägg, Gudas and AMac for different reasons. Do I think they all have value? Most definitely Yes. They just don’t fit together for me with the other four young d-men. I think if we keep all of Ghost, Hägg and Gudas, there will be too much sitting in the press box and not enough development. Who sits?

I think you can trade one of those 3 and possibly rotate someone for one season but then you really have to make a decision. I can’t see re-signing Gudas over the homegrown guys. I see going with a top 3 vet, Provy, Sanheim, Myers, Morin and Hägg or Ghost going forward.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Apr 2 @ 4:50 PM ET
Watch if Lindblom, Patrick, and TK get time together tonight. I like that line.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 5:30 PM ET
This is a good discussion because everyone is probably a little different on this. I give a hard “no” to losing Provy. I don’t think it makes any sense to trade Sanheim or Myers due to age and high upside filling a definite need, so 2 more “no’s.” We have invested time into Morin and he has the ability to reach a solid 2nd pair so my vote is “no” for trading him too. You have to admit...those 4 are young.

I am willing to listen on Ghost, Hägg, Gudas and AMac for different reasons. Do I think they all have value? Most definitely Yes. They just don’t fit together for me with the other four young d-men. I think if we keep all of Ghost, Hägg and Gudas, there will be too much sitting in the press box and not enough development. Who sits?

I think you can trade one of those 3 and possibly rotate someone for one season but then you really have to make a decision. I can’t see re-signing Gudas over the homegrown guys. I see going with a top 3 vet, Provy, Sanheim, Myers, Morin and Hägg or Ghost going forward.

- NC Flyers Fan

My expectation is to not re-sign Gudas when the time comes but that time isn’t now. If Morin isn’t a full time NHLer by the time Gudas walks, maybe Morin isn’t worth keeping at that time either.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 2 @ 5:45 PM ET
Only 42 points behind Tampa. Make some ground up tonight.
- PLindbergh31



God, I wish this franchise could just have a fresh start.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 5:56 PM ET
Is Cam Talbot suing the Flyers?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
Is Cam Talbot suing the Flyers?
- SuperSchennBros

April Fool's Joke. He "claimed" to be overworked by the Flyers.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
Is Cam Talbot suing the Flyers?
- SuperSchennBros

no lol it was an April Fools thing
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 7:14 PM ET
April Fool's Joke. He "claimed" to be overworked by the Flyers.
- hereticpride

But it’s April 2nd though
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 2 @ 8:13 PM ET
But it’s April 2nd though
- SuperSchennBros



Yeah, but it came out yesterday.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 8:32 PM ET
Yeah, but it came out yesterday.
- MBFlyerfan

You don’t say.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Apr 2 @ 8:41 PM ET
Spots on a leopard don't change.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 2 @ 8:42 PM ET
Wooooooo pick 11 cmon babaayyy!!!
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Apr 2 @ 8:42 PM ET
1 bourbon 1 shot 1 beer
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 2 @ 8:42 PM ET
Big surprise team sucks
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 2 @ 8:42 PM ET
Do not sign Talbot
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 2 @ 8:45 PM ET
Minnesota up 3-0!!!!! The night keeps getting better!!
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Apr 2 @ 8:45 PM ET
Tight defense guys. Real tight like Lisa Ann.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 2 @ 8:45 PM ET
I should not have paid to go to this game
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 2 @ 8:46 PM ET

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 2 @ 8:47 PM ET
Lol a joke
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Apr 2 @ 8:47 PM ET
I should not have paid to go to this game
- bulet13

Heard that a lot at the Wells Fargo Center
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 2 @ 8:49 PM ET
Tight defense guys. Real tight like Lisa Ann.
- Pelle31Forever

del zotto in shambles
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