I definitely don't see him signing for less than $10M/per. And since in general everyone gets overpaid in free agency & contracts always go up, I have a hard time believing Panarin wil be less than $11M/per.

Normally I am against bidding on the best available FA. But I feel differently about Panarin. It is very rare that a player of his caliber & age makes it to the open market. Is this perfect timing for the Flyers? No, probably not. Maybe a year too early. But I say go for it anyway. The timing is never going to be "perfect". Sure there's some risk with Panarin, and it could be a little tricky fitting him into the lineup. But I think his skill set is exactly what this roster has lacked in recent years.
- Big_E_88

No doubt his skills are exactly what the Flyers need. I just have a hard time paying him more than guys who are overall better than him are making.

It was April Fools nonsense.
- johndewar

Hahahahaha I feel dumb. I read one sentence where it mentioned his lawyer and gave up.

I was like the (frank) is he talking about?

No doubt his skills are exactly what the Flyers need. I just have a hard time paying him more than guys who are overall better than him are making.
- Pelle31Forever

That's just the market though, always happens. Will always be guys on term friendly deals and vice versa due to timing.

Next season

Panarin Couturier Giroux
JVR Pavelski Konecny
Lindblom Patrick Frost
Raffl Laughton Hartman

Provy Gudas
Amac Sanheim
Myers Hagg

Next season

Panarin Couturier Giroux
JVR Pavelski Konecny
Lindblom Patrick Frost
Raffl Laughton Hartman

Provy Gudas
Amac Sanheim
Myers Hagg
- 2Real

They sign Karlsson he's out the door, you'd have to think. I'd give him a 3-4 year deal.

That's just the market though, always happens. Will always be guys on term friendly deals and vice versa due to timing.
- ClaudeFather

Good point. Safe to assume if other elite talent were free agents they'd be cashing in.

Next season

Panarin Couturier Giroux
JVR Pavelski Konecny
Lindblom Patrick Frost
Raffl Laughton Hartman

Provy Gudas
Amac Sanheim
Myers Hagg
- 2Real

where is Ghost ? What did you get for him? How about Morin

@Williamc5468:

https://twitter.com/JHall...tml%231112053078776258560

Pavelski and Karlsson? lol.

@Williamc5468:

https://twitter.com/JHall...tml%231112053078776258560
- missingmike

Thanks for posting this. This is another reason why I am in favor of pursuing Panarin. I'd rather not waste another year of G's prime. I definitely wouldn't say that he is underrated, but I do feel that he is taken for granted a bit. He's an elite/borderline elite playmaker. Very consistent. Extremeley versatile. When he begins to slip, that is going to have a huge impact on the team. I'd like to try to win while he's still in his prime rather use his prime as a crutch to get us to when the kids are ready to contend. I'm excited about the prospects too, but I don't think it's fair to expect any of them to come in and develop into an bona fide all-situations 1C that can also play either wing.

Bias for action

@MJL from yesterday's blog if he checks in...just looking for your thoughts on the offseason...

What do you think puts them "closer"? I would agree there is some maturing process that needs to happen with some solid playoff runs to say the team has arrived. But if Fletcher can hit a homerun this offseason by getting all of his needs filled, why would you not consider them a contender.

Let's say the Flyers sign Q, get Panarin, obtain the needed 3rd center and find a Vet D man that can pair in the top 4, preferably top 2. I see this team being competitive throughout the season, and being able to get past the first round and depending on Hart being able to be the goalie they need for a playoff run I think they could make a run next year...I think there is enough on the team now if the right parts are added they are in the conversation...

Oh boy, do I feel we have a bad mindset around here when it comes to the defense. Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Shayne Gostisbehere, Robert Hägg, Phillipe Myers, Samuel Morin, Radko Gudas. These are our young defensemen of the future. Now I’m reading names like Duncan Keith, Shea Weber and Jacob Trouba as must have veterans on the blueline.

My question to all is, who was the veteran leader on the Chicago Black Hawks defense when they want their first three cups? Not Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Nick Leddy, Dustin Byfuglien, Cam Baker or Nick Hjalmarsson. Do you want a Brian Campbell as your much needed leader because they traded him away.

This team has to find away with searching for a Sean O’Donnell to play bad cop here.

I’m gonna throw a question out there. Everyone knows that I’ve been calling for Giroux to remain at center, so we ca remain strong down the middle. I’ll throw that idea out the window for the sake of this argument I’m about to make.

I’ve heard for about a year now, Giroux needs to play wing because his best production comes from the wing. Alright. Down the stretch, when we’ve needed G from a year ago, he’s seen a lot of wing but mostly RW, on a line with JvR and being centered by one of Couturier or Patrick.

The question becomes, have we seen the best of Giroux not just on wing but right wing? I don’t think so. Giroux is being used on the right half wall on the PP, he looks like he’s at a disadvantage...but Gordon keeps going back to that well.

How do you feel? Are you fine with G anywhere near the right side and keep in mind, I’m not asking about center.

Next season

Panarin Couturier Giroux
JVR Pavelski Konecny
Lindblom Patrick Frost
Raffl Laughton Hartman

Provy Gudas
Amac Sanheim
Myers Hagg
- 2Real

I wouldn't mind that forward group. But also not sure what Pavelski would cost... He is still productive, but I don't know if a deal could be worked out that I'd be on board with.
I know a lot of the focus has been on finding a 3C. But should it actually be on finding a capable short term 2C instead? Should Patrick be handed the 2C role heading into next season, or would it be better to start him at 3C with less pressure and make him earn a promotion to 2C during the season?

@Williamc5468:

https://twitter.com/JHall...tml%231112053078776258560
- missingmike

Facts and stats dont matter unless you hit sumbody.

Giroux will never get the respect he deserves from a certain % of Flyers fans.

I’m gonna throw a question out there. Everyone knows that I’ve been calling for Giroux to remain at center, so we ca remain strong down the middle. I’ll throw that idea out the window for the sake of this argument I’m about to make.

I’ve heard for about a year now, Giroux needs to play wing because his best production comes from the wing. Alright. Down the stretch, when we’ve needed G from a year ago, he’s seen a lot of wing but mostly RW, on a line with JvR and being centered by one of Couturier or Patrick.

The question becomes, have we seen the best of Giroux not just on wing but right wing? I don’t think so. Giroux is being used on the right half wall on the PP, he looks like he’s at a disadvantage...but Gordon keeps going back to that well.

How do you feel? Are you fine with G anywhere near the right side and keep in mind, I’m not asking about center.
- SuperSchennBros

I think we have been back and forth on this a bit so here are my thoughts. I agree with your assessment of G as a center, I think it is the role he is best suited for. But my feeling is that if he plays on the wing, he will have more in the tank at the end of the season and during a hopefully not too distant future run towards a cup. That run in the playoffs has not happened, so i don't know if it will hold water, only time will tell.

I personally like G on the left wing, and the left half wall on the PP. I think it sets up his one-timer better...much like Ovi...you just wait for either of those guys to drift to that spot and they either have a perfect pass or shot that ends up in the net...I know Gordon has used him on the right...I just don't think that maximizes G's strengths.

Next season

Panarin Couturier Giroux
JVR Pavelski Konecny
Lindblom Patrick Frost
Raffl Laughton Hartman

Provy Gudas
Amac Sanheim
Myers Hagg
- 2Real

I was gonna say 2Real loves that second line center then I saw who typed this lineup..

Oh boy, do I feel we have a bad mindset around here when it comes to the defense. Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Shayne Gostisbehere, Robert Hägg, Phillipe Myers, Samuel Morin, Radko Gudas. These are our young defensemen of the future. Now I’m reading names like Duncan Keith, Shea Weber and Jacob Trouba as must have veterans on the blueline.

My question to all is, who was the veteran leader on the Chicago Black Hawks defense when they want their first three cups? Not Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Nick Leddy, Dustin Byfuglien, Cam Baker or Nick Hjalmarsson. Do you want a Brian Campbell as your much needed leader because they traded him away.

This team has to find away with searching for a Sean O’Donnell to play bad cop here.
- SuperSchennBros

Campbell was their vet, yes. And once Keith and Seabrook were ready to become that they traded him away. So get yourself a top guy and in a few years when Provorov and Sanheim are those guys your trade him away.

Facts and stats dont matter unless you hit sumbody.

Giroux will never get the respect he deserves from a certain % of Flyers fans.
- opeth_pa

Which is crazy because he is one of the best to every wear the sweater...He is a top 5 Flyer all time IMO.

I’m gonna throw a question out there. Everyone knows that I’ve been calling for Giroux to remain at center, so we ca remain strong down the middle. I’ll throw that idea out the window for the sake of this argument I’m about to make.

I’ve heard for about a year now, Giroux needs to play wing because his best production comes from the wing. Alright. Down the stretch, when we’ve needed G from a year ago, he’s seen a lot of wing but mostly RW, on a line with JvR and being centered by one of Couturier or Patrick.

The question becomes, have we seen the best of Giroux not just on wing but right wing? I don’t think so. Giroux is being used on the right half wall on the PP, he looks like he’s at a disadvantage...but Gordon keeps going back to that well.

How do you feel? Are you fine with G anywhere near the right side and keep in mind, I’m not asking about center.
- SuperSchennBros

It’s been clear to me that G is most productive at left wing. He doesn’t look like he struggles with right wing. It’s possible, I’m guessing, that he would need longer with same linemates to get comfortable and build chemistry at right wing.

getting an entirely new coaching staff should be priority number 1

Next season

Panarin Couturier Giroux
JVR Pavelski Konecny
Lindblom Patrick Frost
Raffl Laughton Hartman

Provy Gudas
Amac Sanheim
Myers Hagg
- 2Real

For someone who always gripes about this team sucking, I’m rather surprised to see you suggest a D-Lineup featuring both of Hagg and Amac. Made me throw up a little bit 👍🏽

New coach. Top 4 d. Center depth. Bottom 6 speed. Sign back up

My question for all of you is if we acquire Panarin, who centers him?

New coach. Top 4 d. Center depth. Bottom 6 speed. Sign back up

My question for all of you is if we acquire Panarin, who centers him?
- cdearth23

Bread - Coots - Jake
JVR - G - TK
Lindblom - Patrick - Frost
Raffl - Scott - Hartman