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breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Mar 30 @ 5:54 PM ET
Strome and Cat are playing for an historic franchise, and are apparently great friends. I'm gonna guess they both come to agreements to stay here. But, who knows.....
- mohel


Likely if they get along with the coaching staff and keep getting lots of TOI, they will likely be happy to sign a fair contract in Chicago. Don't see much reason right now either would want out. They've stayed out of the doghouse and been given opportunity to earn that $$$.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 5:55 PM ET
Strome and Cat are playing for an historic franchise, and are apparently great friends. I'm gonna guess they both come to agreements to stay here. But, who knows.....
- mohel

Strome has stated he wants to be a Blackhawk for life.

Of course, that and 2 bucks will get you a candy bar.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 5:58 PM ET
Likely if they get along with the coaching staff and keep getting lots of TOI, they will likely be happy to sign a fair contract in Chicago. Don't see much reason right now either would want out. They've stayed out of the doghouse and been given opportunity to earn that $$$.
- breadbag

They are both RFA. I know you are aware. The market for them is pretty limited. This off-season may change the landscape regarding RFA with all the names out there.

Personally think it will be more the Saad situation. Teams will say they are preparing to offer sheet someone and try to work out a deal.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Mar 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
Scmaltz is an RFA who’s ELC ended this season, DeBrincat’s and Strome’s ELC ends after the 2019-20 season. Wonder how that affects things, how soon does Bowman try to get the guys signed after July 1st.
- walleyeb1


Ok so I’m updating myself. FWIW Strome has the same agent as Horvat (Mark Guy). He seems to like to let things draw out to the end.

DeBrincat has the same agent as McDavid and Ekblad (Jeff Jackson). Both were signed in early July of there of their final contract years. Guess he likes to take care of business early!
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:04 PM ET
If the Hawks want to buy Seabs out, there is not much of a cap savings. The capfriendly site has a calculator which would give the exact numbers for the cap hit going forward.

Don't know if 7 waives to get closer to "home" in BC. He has a home in Chicago too, doesn't he? Why uproot the family if he is not obliged to.

Even if he does waive, another hurdle is how to entice Seattle to take on that contract? Some high draft choices and/or top prospects I would think.

- boilermaker100

But if he waives, they don’t have to protect him - and can use that protection for someone else.

I think.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:05 PM ET
Strome has stated he wants to be a Blackhawk for life.

Of course, that and 2 bucks will get you a candy bar.

- Elbows15


They will both look to maximize their earnings, as they should. Hopefully Stan can sign them both to a mutually beneficial contract.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 30 @ 6:10 PM ET
But if he waives, they don’t have to protect him - and can use that protection for someone else.

I think.

- StLBravesFan


Yes that's true. But it is a big If.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 6:13 PM ET
They will both look to maximize their earnings, as they should. Hopefully Stan can sign them both to a mutually beneficial contract.
- DarthKane

Not like they have many options rn. Someone wants to offer sheet them, take the picks and move on.

HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:14 PM ET
Its not just one guy. 19/88/12/17/20 will take up $42MM in cap - SIX guys.
- Return of the Roar


Time to blow it up!!!
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 6:15 PM ET
Yes that's true. But it is a big If.
- boilermaker100

They can ask them to waive for just for the expansion draft. Its what the Pens did with MAF. No one would take either one of them.

gazza53
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.15.2017

Mar 30 @ 6:39 PM ET
Its not just one guy. 19/88/12/17/20 will take up $42MM in cap - SIX guys.
- Return of the Roar


19/88/12/17/20 = 5 guys

add in 2/7 that = $54.5MM for 7 guys
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:39 PM ET
Not like they have many options rn. Someone wants to offer sheet them, take the picks and move on.
- Elbows15

Just to refresh - the comp picks for last summer were:

$6MM-$8MM = 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Hawks would most likely match an offer in this range.

$8MM-$10MM - 2 first, a second, and a third. Unlikely anyone offers here.

The ranges will increase for the summer of 2020, but I would think the conclusions would hold.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 30 @ 7:49 PM ET
I figured out a scenario for Seabrook to want out of Chicago. If Jabba the Hutt Prtizker get his new tax plan implemented, Seabs talks to his financial advisor and determines the proposed 7.95% Illinois state income tax rate for millionaires is too steep to pay and requests a trade to a 0% tax state like Texas, Florida, Tennessee or Nevada or waives to Seattle. (Washington another 0% tax rate state).
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 7:51 PM ET
Just to refresh - the comp picks for last summer were:

$6MM-$8MM = 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Hawks would most likely match an offer in this range.

$8MM-$10MM - 2 first, a second, and a third. Unlikely anyone offers here.

The ranges will increase for the summer of 2020, but I would think the conclusions would hold.

- StLBravesFan

Remember. Compensation is based on 5 years. Or less if the contract term is less than 5 years.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 7:51 PM ET
Just to refresh - the comp picks for last summer were:

$6MM-$8MM = 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Hawks would most likely match an offer in this range.

$8MM-$10MM - 2 first, a second, and a third. Unlikely anyone offers here.

The ranges will increase for the summer of 2020, but I would think the conclusions would hold.

- StLBravesFan

DP
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 30 @ 7:57 PM ET
19/88/12/17/20 = 5 guys

add in 2/7 that = $54.5MM for 7 guys

- gazza53


Toronto's top 5 guys next year - with Marner at $10M - will be at $45.85. Top 7 - $55.85M.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Mar 30 @ 7:58 PM ET
DP
- Elbows15

Gross...this is a family site!
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Mar 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
Toronto's top 5 guys next year - with Marner at $10M - will be at $45.85. Top 7 - $55.85M.
- mohel


But we have 3 Cups to show for it!
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Remember. Compensation is based on 5 years. Or less if the contract term is less than 5 years.
- Elbows15

Makes comp even more expensive in any realistic scenario.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
DP
- Elbows15

Double play?

Displaced person?

Deportee?

Don’t piss?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 8:16 PM ET
Double play?

Displaced person?

Deportee?

Don’t piss?

- StLBravesFan

Yes
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 30 @ 8:21 PM ET
But we have 3 Cups to show for it!
- boilermaker100


Yes, indeed. What the gloomers fail to mention when barking that the Hawks salary structure is too top heavy is that it looks like lots of other teams.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
Yes, indeed. What the gloomers fail to mention when barking that the Hawks salary structure is too top heavy is that it looks like lots of other teams.
- mohel

Same with the no move contracts - the Hawks haven’t given out have appreciably more than other teams.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 30 @ 8:42 PM ET
Same with the no move contracts - the Hawks haven’t given out have appreciably more than other teams.
- StLBravesFan


True stuff.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 30 @ 8:45 PM ET
You guys aren't hockeybuzzing right.
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