Be fine? His coach keeps benching him for the same issues.
- Elbows15

Sh rp, Kane and Shaw were all benched numerous times for making the same mistakes by Q. Shaw was even sent back to Rockford for a while. They all learned from it. There is just too much talent for the Hawks to give up on Perlini. A low cost low term contract will hopefully give him incentive to be more consistant to play for a better contract. The game last week against the Leafs is what I hope he can become on a consistant basis where I thought he was the best player on the ice. He looked big, fast, strong and confident.

I know.. not sure Gardiner solves the problem (is he UFA?)
Maybe, Stralman, Giradi or Benn? With all of the offensively minded young guns on or near the roster it would help to have a big body that can clear the crease. Stralman is probably the smallest of that bunch.

What do y'all think?
- Q-stache

Gardiner? No thanks. Good with the puck a nightmare without it.

I'd like to see Bowman try to replicate what he did in the trade for Strome and Perlini, target a young highly rated defenseman who hasn't lived up to expectations and make him an reclaimation project. I'm hoping Koekkoek can improve next season.

I forgot who mentioned it, but Vegas is in a boatload of trouble cap wise. Colin Miller or Brendan McNabb would be a good get.
- LAHawk

I brought that up a few times as have others.

That description of Perlini looks similar to what could be said about Hayden.

Sikura, on the other hand, has admittedly evolved his game to use his strengths to help the team in the role he is given but not trying to be something he's not (at least not yet). He may never be an elite forward in the NHL like he was in the NCAA but he can still be a reliable contributor in the top 9 who can play well across 200 feet.
- AEL_Fox

The similarity between Hayden and Perlini in terms of their heretofore inability/reluctance of knowing and accepting their strengths and weaknesses and how they must play is a good comparison. Their physical/athletic ability is not similar though because Hayden's skating is at best borderline NHL level whereas Perlini is at least above average,

Sh rp, Kane and Shaw were all benched numerous times for making the same mistakes by Q. Shaw was even sent back to Rockford for a while. They all learned from it. There is just too much talent for the Hawks to give up on Perlini. A low cost low term contract will hopefully give him incentive to be more consistant to play for a better contract. The game last week against the Leafs is what I hope he can become on a consistant basis where I thought he was the best player on the ice. He looked big, fast, strong and confident.
- paulr

Sharp and Kane were benched for maybe a period or so. Neither were healthy scratches at that point in their careers. Shaw was given that treatment for taking stupid penalties. The problem is Perlini doesn't seem to be learning from it. It already is in a contract year. So there is that. I would be ok if they brought him back or let him go. I hope he gets but I have serious doubts.

Kane and Sharp wen't benched numerous times, btw.

A higher pick, or a good prospect?

I get Vegas is in cap hell, but they still need to outbid the market.
- mohel

So add AA to it and we will take Clarkson's LTIR for one year. They have 3 #1 draft choices from last year that are doing real well in jr.'s so they will have to start making room for those also.

So add AA to it and we will take Clarkson's LTIR for one year. They have 3 #1 draft choices from last year that are doing real well in jr.'s so they will have to start making room for those also.
- LAHawk

I'd be fine with McNabb, and I understand Vegas needs to dump contracts. But Karlson makes a bunch and needs a new deal. Not sure they can afford to take AA. I don't know what it would take to get McNabb, but I'd be okay with it at a reasonable return.

That face off difference amount to 1-3 per game. Most likely 2.
- mohel

Good to know. I guess it could go either way: those 2 faceoffs could be inconsequential in the grand scheme of an entire game or pivotal at key moments like during an empty net situation or penalty kill.

I'd be fine with McNabb, and I understand Vegas needs to dump contracts. But Karlson makes a bunch and needs a new deal. Not sure they can afford to take AA. I don't know what it would take to get McNabb, but I'd be okay with it at a reasonable return.
- mohel

Karlsson signed a one year deal last year for $5.1 mil, after scoring 41 goals, he has 23 this year and 532 points which I think is really what you should expect from him, I doubt he would get much more than the $5.1AAV. He is also a plus defensive center. this gives you some time to see if Strome is the real deal, and at worst you have 3 very strong centers and Kampf. I would do that deal anyday. Don't forget it is Vegas against the wall, not the Hawks, if another team wants to outbid, good for them. Yes we want to make our D stronger, but we do not have to chase and overpay for them.

Sharp and Kane were benched for maybe a period or so. Neither were healthy scratches at that point in their careers. Shaw was given that treatment for taking stupid penalties. The problem is Perlini doesn't seem to be learning from it. It already is in a contract year. So there is that. I would be ok if they brought him back or let him go. I hope he gets but I have serious doubts.

Kane and Sharp wen't benched numerous times, btw.
- Elbows15

The Hawks don't have many, if any, prospects with Perlini's size, skating ability and skillset. It's in the best interest of the team to see if they can motivate him to get the best out of him. It's not in the team's best interest to give up on him, at least not yet.

The similarity between Hayden and Perlini in terms of their heretofore inability/reluctance of knowing and accepting their strengths and weaknesses and how they must play is a good comparison. Their physical/athletic ability is not similar though because Hayden's skating is at best borderline NHL level whereas Perlini is at least above average,
- EbonyRaptor

Good point about that difference between Perlini and Hayden. Another way to illustrate that difference is that I'd be fine with trading Hayden but would have to think hard about not resigning Perlini.

Good to know. I guess it could go either way: those 2 faceoffs could be inconsequential in the grand scheme of an entire game or pivotal at key moments like during an empty net situation or penalty kill.
- AEL_Fox

Yep, timing is everything, for sure.

The Hawks don't have many, if any, prospects with Perlini's size, skating ability and skillset. It's in the best interest of the team to see if they can motivate him to get the best out of him. It's not in the team's best interest to give up on him, at least not yet.
- paulr

None of which does any good if he can't show up to play every night. How many nights does he have to get benched in order to motivate him? Like I said, fine if they bring him back for less than 1M. Fine if they move on from him.

None of which does any good if he can't show up to play every night. How many nights does he have to get benched in order to motivate him? Like I said, fine if they bring him back for less than 1M. Fine if they move on from him.
- Elbows15

Question, what is your position on the re-signing of Perlini?

I am expert on his coach benching his ass. Repeatedly. Its cute you recall things a person on a message board said months ago. Disturbing, but cute.
- Elbows15

Yeah when you vehemently stated Strome isn't an NHL player and blasted anyone who disagreed with you. Hard to really take any of your posts seriously.

You hated Strome but love Kampf.

Kampf is nothing more than a fringe 4th line center who can easily be replaced. Plays with almost no physical edge given his size.

Question, what is your position on the re-signing of Perlini?
- mohel

I'm fairly certain he will be back. Too much talent there. Might take a full off-season to undo all the stupid the Coyote's organization put in him.

Question, what is your position on the re-signing of Perlini?
- mohel

I don't have one.

Yeah when you vehemently stated Strome isn't an NHL player and blasted anyone who disagreed with you. Hard to really take any of your posts seriously.

You hated Strome but love Kampf.

Kampf is nothing more than a fringe 4th line center who can easily be replaced. Plays with almost no physical edge given his size.
- bhawks2241

Aww, you think I care what you think of my opinion? Disturbing to say the least.

I don't have one.
- Elbows15

Although I'm guessing the Hawks will retain both, if you had a choice and could only sign one, which RFA do you resign: Perlini or Sikura?

Although I'm guessing the Hawks will retain both, if you had a choice and could only sign one, which RFA do you resign: Perlini or Sikura?
- AEL_Fox

Sikura. He already wins more board battles than Perlini. Sikura shows up every night.
Sure he makes mistakes but they aren't from a lack of effort. Seems to learn his lessons whereas the Perlini has been benched constantly for the same thing.

Karlsson signed a one year deal last year for $5.1 mil, after scoring 41 goals, he has 23 this year and 532 points which I think is really what you should expect from him, I doubt he would get much more than the $5.1AAV. He is also a plus defensive center. this gives you some time to see if Strome is the real deal, and at worst you have 3 very strong centers and Kampf. I would do that deal anyday. Don't forget it is Vegas against the wall, not the Hawks, if another team wants to outbid, good for them. Yes we want to make our D stronger, but we do not have to chase and overpay for them.
- LAHawk

If Vegas can sign Karlsson for 5.1M why would they trade him for AA who's making 4.5M. That 600K in cap savings won't help that much. Maybe I am missing something.

As others have posted, VGK can't take back much salary so I would think they take back a draft pick or someone on an ELC they can bury in the AHL for a Miller or McNabb.

They can throw in Eakin too who would be a serviceable 3C for a year. That would make AA available in a separate trade.

Hagel and Johnson have joined the Hogs.

Hagel on a PTO and Johnson on an ATO. Hogs have 8 games left in their season.

Sikura. He already wins more board battles than Perlini. Sikura shows up every night.
Sure he makes mistakes but they aren't from a lack of effort. Seems to learn his lessons whereas the Perlini has been benched constantly for the same thing.
- Elbows15

Same here: Sikura hands down for similar reasons stated.

Hagel and Johnson have joined the Hogs.

Hagel on a PTO and Johnson on an ATO. Hogs have 8 games left in their season.
- Elbows15

Good to hear. The Hogs need to move on from some personnel who aren't going to amount to much (i.e. Knott, Noel, Louis, Pelletier) and bring in some new blood. Admitted, though, that some of this new blood may not be more than career minor leaguers either.

Balancing in a few key veterans is important, too.

If Vegas can sign Karlsson for 5.1M why would they trade him for AA who's making 4.5M. That 600K in cap savings won't help that much. Maybe I am missing something.

As others have posted, VGK can't take back much salary so I would think they take back a draft pick or someone on an ELC they can bury in the AHL for a Miller or McNabb.

They can throw in Eakin too who would be a serviceable 3C for a year. That would make AA available in a separate trade.
- boilermaker100

Mohel was saying what I offered at first we would be outbid (Dahlstrom and a second), I said fine, add AA for Clarkson's $5 mil. in dead money for one year.