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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
The offersheet argument exists becaudse people have been had by the Toronto media-The same media people hilariously claim is so biased for the Leafs.
There will be 0 offersheets in the entire NHl this summer. So much time wasted on something that has not occurred in 6 years.
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
Rangers99
New York Rangers

Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Today @ 12:39 PM ET
feel free to offer sheet marner. Would love the rangers next 4 years lottery picks
- HealthyScratch6



Kapanen, not marner

- HealthyScratch6


Man you are dense. Does it say the rangers should offer sheet Kapanen. You mentioned the rangers, not me. I’m done, have a good day
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 24 @ 1:54 PM ET
The offersheet argument exists becaudse people have been had by the Toronto media-The same media people hilariously claim is so biased for the Leafs.
There will be 0 offersheets in the entire NHl this summer. So much time wasted on something that has not occurred in 6 years.

- RogerRoeper


Your right, could be none, I’m just saying it’s possible
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Mar 24 @ 1:55 PM ET
Man you are dense. Does it say the rangers should offer sheet Kapanen. You mentioned the rangers, not me. I’m done, have a good day
- Rangers99

I win, you lose. it was fun.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 2:10 PM ET
I win, you lose. it was fun.
- HealthyScratch6

I think you're the same genius that said the Rangers wouldn't get a 1st for Kevin Hayes. If so, you have no say on the matter.
trueblue1
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 2:38 PM ET
I think you're the same genius that said the Rangers wouldn't get a 1st for Kevin Hayes. If so, you have no say on the matter.
- tomburton99



We got Lemieux too!
Huuuuuge!
trueblue1
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 2:52 PM ET
I win, you lose. it was fun.
- HealthyScratch6


Here's a possible scenario for you to consider...

I believe that Kapenan is worth up to 6 million per year.

As Rangers99 correctly stated in the rules for Offer Sheeting a player, it is possible for a team to offer sheet Kapenan for a 6 million a year contract and only have to give up a 1st and a 3rd.
BTW that would be worth it.

That would really put Toronto in a pickle. I can see Kapenan packing already... lol!
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
Here's a possible scenario for you to consider...

I believe that Kapenan is worth up to 6 million per year.

As Rangers99 correctly stated in the rules for Offer Sheeting a player, it is possible for a team to offer sheet Kapenan for a 6 million a year contract and only have to give up a 1st and a 3rd.
BTW that would be worth it.

That would really put Toronto in a pickle. I can see Kapenan packing already... lol!

- trueblue1

Ehh, I disagree. Kapanen would be making more than Zib.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
Wow, the Rangers are BAD. And they won’t be getting better for a loooong time. Thank god for this Gorgiev dude and his Dominik Hasek impression....

2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Mar 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Ehh, I disagree. Kapanen would be making more than Zib.
- tomburton99


That’s why I said if you are going to try to make a RFA come here, gotta be Marner. Don’t get me wrong Kapenen is a good player, but I don’t think he moves the needle enough
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:06 PM ET
Here's a possible scenario for you to consider...

I believe that Kapenan is worth up to 6 million per year.

As Rangers99 correctly stated in the rules for Offer Sheeting a player, it is possible for a team to offer sheet Kapenan for a 6 million a year contract and only have to give up a 1st and a 3rd.
BTW that would be worth it.

That would really put Toronto in a pickle. I can see Kapenan packing already... lol!

- trueblue1


Not sure if he does. For all the Nylander contract whining, what's often missed is he has 2 61 point seasons. Kapenen in his big acclaimed breakout year, might not even hit 50 points. Not sure even now if a guy with 0 50 point season scan get 6 million+ per.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
Exactly, but like I said, Leafs fans just magically think everyone will be signed no problem.
- Rangers99


And non-Leaf fans think everyone will be offersheeted and leave the Leafs.
Do you know how many people guaranteed Leaf fans Matthews was done on the Leafs and this summer would sign a max deal in Arizona (LOL).

The common theme with non-Leaf fans is they believe Leafs cannot trade anyone to free up cap space and thus, 1 or 2 cannot be signed (RFAs).

Leafs are already planning for addressing cheap depth with signings for guys like Moore and Rosen for mutiple years for 750 K each. A guy like Connor Brown can easily be moved and replaced by Moore for 1.75 savings. Also don't count-out a Orpik like buyout for Marleau, or some move for Zaitsev.
trueblue1
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 3:12 PM ET
Not sure if he does. For all the Nylander contract whining, what's often missed is he has 2 61 point seasons. Kapenen in his big acclaimed breakout year, might not even hit 50 points. Not sure even now if a guy with 0 50 point season scan get 6 million+ per.
- RogerRoeper


I just want to see the Leef's get shanked so bad.
But you guys are right... 6 million is too much !

But 4 isn't.... lol

And they gotta sign Johnson too... right???
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:14 PM ET
I just want to see the Leef's get shanked so bad.
But you guys are right... 6 million is too much !

But 4 isn't.... lol

And they gotta sign Johnson too... right???

- trueblue1


I know, Everyone does. That's what leads to the odd belief Arizona can afford to offersheet a guy for 16 million per. It gets unrealistic (I get you did not claim this).

It does get tiresome for Leaf fans reading that everyone will get an offersheet when there hasn't been one in 6 years and NO OTHER RFAs get talked about.

And BTW, I will believe a team gives Marner an offersheet and agrees to give up 4 1st rounders when I see it. No NHl has ever done that in history. It's devesating for an organization ti lose 4 1sts.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 24 @ 3:26 PM ET
And non-Leaf fans think everyone will be offersheeted and leave the Leafs.
Do you know how many people guaranteed Leaf fans Matthews was done on the Leafs and this summer would sign a max deal in Arizona (LOL).

The common theme with non-Leaf fans is they believe Leafs cannot trade anyone to free up cap space and thus, 1 or 2 cannot be signed (RFAs).

Leafs are already planning for addressing cheap depth with signings for guys like Moore and Rosen for mutiple years for 750 K each. A guy like Connor Brown can easily be moved and replaced by Moore for 1.75 savings. Also don't count-out a Orpik like buyout for Marleau, or some move for Zaitsev.

- RogerRoeper


It’s so true. The Leaf-haters refuse to admit that the Leafs could very easily escape their salary cap issues by moving a couple of players

Nylander is having an off season, but they could move his $7M cap hit in a second. Losing Kadri would sting, for sure, but again, they could move him for picks and prospects if they needed to free up some cap room

And it’s not like they’d be giving these guys away for nothing. They’d get to stock the cupboards with quality prospects and picks that would ensure they remain relevant for a long time

But I do enjoy all of the jealousy disguised as concern over TO’s cap issues. Must be so difficult for Dubas to be cursed with all these awesome young players....
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 3:27 PM ET
Wow, the Rangers are BAD. And they won’t be getting better for a loooong time. Thank god for this Gorgiev dude and his Dominik Hasek impression....
- AxlRose91

And yet the mighty Leafs can't beat this bad team...
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:35 PM ET
It’s so true. The Leaf-haters refuse to admit that the Leafs could very easily escape their salary cap issues by moving a couple of players

Nylander is having an off season, but they could move his $7M cap hit in a second. Losing Kadri would sting, for sure, but again, they could move him for picks and prospects if they needed to free up some cap room

And it’s not like they’d be giving these guys away for nothing. They’d get to stock the cupboards with quality prospects and picks that would ensure they remain relevant for a long time

But I do enjoy all of the jealousy disguised as concern over TO’s cap issues. Must be so difficult for Dubas to be cursed with all these awesome young players....

- AxlRose91


It's ludicrous and delusional for any fan to think a team with a core of Rielly, Muzzin, Andersen, Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Kapnen, Johnson is so screwed. LOL. Ok, so they trade one for a great return. What's the big deal?

Leafs will contend for years to come.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
And yet the mighty Leafs can't beat this bad team...
- tomburton99


True, but the mighty Leafs are statistically the 6th best team and headed to the playoffs.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
True, but the mighty Leafs are statistically the 6th best team and headed to the playoffs.
- RogerRoeper

Yeah and Tanner has them winnin the cup. Enjoy that epic level mush.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Mar 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
It's ludicrous and delusional for any fan to think a team with a core of Rielly, Muzzin, Andersen, Tavares, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Kapnen, Johnson is so screwed. LOL. Ok, so they trade one for a great return. What's the big deal?

Leafs will contend for years to come.

- RogerRoeper


The leafs do have a great young core. You have to contend once though before years to come. I’ll say this though, your window is the next few years. If you don’t win then, things might get painful in terms of cap.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
The leafs do have a great young core. You have to contend once though before years to come. I’ll say this though, your window is the next few years. If you don’t win then, things might get painful in terms of cap.
- 2sticks1puck


Don't forget, the cap will be 95-100 million within 3 years. The issue for the Leafs is next season. After that they are in good shape.
Seattle expansion will put up the cap 5-7 million the summer after Seattle comes in. There's also the MGM deal coming in.

And contrary to popular belief due to the media not reporting the cap of there teams, contenders like Winnipeg and Tampa have major cap issues this summer. Why do people act like only the Leafs have a cap?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
Yeah and Tanner has them winnin the cup. Enjoy that epic level mush.
- tomburton99


Yeah and virtually no one else does.
I actually think the Leafs are flying incredibly under the radar right now in terms of discussion as a contender. The match-ups will be very tough against those 3 centres they have.

I also think people truly believe Boston swept Toronto last year in the playoffs. If you analyse all the stats of their players, it is very hard to believe all the numbers stay the same.
Will Freddie Andersen ever have .896 save% in the playoffs again? Kadri was suspended as well 3 games. Matthews had 2 points in 7 games. No Tavares. Will he be invisible? They lost in the 3rd period of game 7.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
Yeah and virtually no one else does.
I actually think the Leafs are flying incredibly under the radar right now in terms of discussion as a contender. The match-ups will be very tough against those 3 centres they have.

I also think people truly believe Boston swept Toronto last year in the playoffs. If you analyse all the stats of their players, it is very hard to believe all the numbers stay the same.
Will Freddie Andersen ever have .896 save% in the playoffs again? Kadri was suspended as well 3 games. Matthews had 2 points in 7 games. No Tavares. Will he be invisible? They lost in the 3rd period of game 7.

- RogerRoeper

He has a .891 saveprecentage this month...


21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Mar 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
Yeah and virtually no one else does.
I actually think the Leafs are flying incredibly under the radar right now in terms of discussion as a contender. The match-ups will be very tough against those 3 centres they have.

I also think people truly believe Boston swept Toronto last year in the playoffs. If you analyse all the stats of their players, it is very hard to believe all the numbers stay the same.
Will Freddie Andersen ever have .896 save% in the playoffs again? Kadri was suspended as well 3 games. Matthews had 2 points in 7 games. No Tavares. Will he be invisible? They lost in the 3rd period of game 7.

- RogerRoeper

The bottom 4 D's is probably too weak this year. With 2 of Sandin//Liljegren/Rosen playing for the big club next season and Dermott healthy, things looks totally different...!
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
He has a .891 saveprecentage this month...



- tomburton99


Yup. I have no fear he will do far better.
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