7th on the team in both the regular season and playoffs last year, 3rd line tweener. 8th so far this year, give him 5th or 6th if he played the whole year. 2nd line tweener. He's also shooting a whopping 18% which is double digits over his career average. He is 12th on the Caps in point share this year.

That's what he is, and he's a player that kills them with penalties. He takes over one minor a game. He has double the PIM the next closest player, Kempny, who has played 15 more games. Could you imagine how much poop Sam would take if he took a minor a game? But Wilson hits guys, so it's all good.
- Wetbandit1

Wilson "killed them" all the way to the cup parade.

Wilson "killed them" all the way to the cup parade.
- Boss34

Stop, they did not win because of him.

Chris Kunitz and Bryan Rust were huge cogs for the Pens 2 years ago too.

Stop, they did not win because of him.

Chris Kunitz and Bryan Rust were huge cogs for the Pens 2 years ago too.
- Wetbandit1

They definitely won and wilson was a big part of winning.

Rochester came back from 4-1 down. Tied the game with 20 seconds left. Asplund with two goals, Olofsson with 3 assists.

O’Regan wins it in OT. Chris Taylor went with 3 forwards and it paid off. 4th assist for Olofsson. Asplund adds an assist for a 3 point night.

He’s worthy of a roster spot, but you don’t need to pay 2+ mil for guys like that if it came down to it.

Same with 22, 28, 20

The hope is Asplund, CJ etc make them irrelevant
- sbroads24

(frank) no. But who would you rather have? Girgensons that can't do a damn thing in the top 6, or a guy who kinda sorta can? And would be almost assuredly be cheaper on top of it.

Edit: I should add, that when pressed into top 6 service because of injuries.

They definitely won and wilson was a big part of winning.
- Boss34

Whatever, he wasn't. He was only noticeable because he constantly tried to kill people and almost succeeded in killing Aston-Reese.

(frank) no. But who would you rather have? Girgensons that can't do a damn thing in the top 6, or a guy who kinda sorta can? And would be almost assuredly be cheaper on top of it.
- Wetbandit1

See I don’t see a guy who can at all.

He will make a nice play or two but follow up with 5 awful ones.

People get on Thompson for his inaccurate shot, when Rodrigues is actually worse.

His speed is nice and can fill in on the PK, but his spot should be a guy on a 900k ELC

And it’s not solely Rodrigues in that situation.

I wouldn’t give Girgensons or Larsson a raise

See I don’t see a guy who can at all.

He will make a nice play or two but follow up with 5 awful ones.

People get on Thompson for his inaccurate shot, when Rodrigues is actually worse.

His speed is nice and can fill in on the PK, but his spot should be a guy on a 900k ELC
- sbroads24

Difference is that Thompson is a first round pick, and Rodrigues is a UDFA. And I wasn't saying Rodrigues should be in the top 6, I meant in an injury situation I'd rather have Rodrigues over Grigensons. He's still a 4th liner than can contribute, 27 points is solid for mostly bottom 6 work. I wouldn't go more than $1.25M for 2 years on him.

Difference is that Thompson is a first round pick, and Rodrigues is a UDFA. And I wasn't saying Rodrigues should be in the top 6, I meant in an injury situation I'd rather have Rodrigues over Grigensons. He's still a 4th liner than can contribute, 27 points is solid for mostly bottom 6 work. I wouldn't go more than $1.25M for 2 years on him.
- Wetbandit1

It is. But that’s not how he’s been deployed (I know, not his fault)

He’s 160th among forwards in minutes. That’s low-end 2nd line ice time.

27 points for fringe 2nd line ice time is awful

It is. But that’s not how he’s been deployed (I know, not his fault)

He’s 160th among forwards in minutes. That’s low-end 2nd line ice time.

27 points for fringe 2nd line ice time is awful
- sbroads24

I don't think we disagree. He's a 4th line player. I don't want a kid in a 4th line slot. Girgensons is never going to make a play with his speed, ERod will, on occasion. That's all. They can't/shouldn't keep all 3 of Girgensons, Larsson and ERod.

O’Regan wins it in OT. Chris Taylor went with 3 forwards and it paid off. 4th assist for Olofsson. Asplund adds an assist for a 3 point night.
- Pegullaville

I can't wait to watch the latter two next year.

In Buffalo.

I don't think we disagree. He's a 4th line player. I don't want a kid in a 4th line slot. Girgensons is never going to make a play with his speed, ERod will, on occasion. That's all. They can't/shouldn't keep all 3 of Girgensons, Larsson and ERod.
- Wetbandit1

Yeah I don’t mind if he stays, he can be a 11-13th forward on a decent team IMO, but I just hope he isn’t thinking top 9 money.

I think a 1 year 1.25 deal works and then hopefully he can walk when we have better options

Yeah I don’t mind if he stays, he can be a 11-13th forward on a decent team IMO, but I just hope he isn’t thinking top 9 money.

I think a 1 year 1.25 deal works and then hopefully he can walk when we have better options
- sbroads24

Yeah, I'd be ok with a one year deal. I'd just give him the extra year to try and head off any delusions of grandeur he might have. He can always be buried if need be. And then he'd be an asset to Rochester. At worst you'd be on the hook for $150K if buried.

I can't wait to watch the latter two next year.

In Buffalo.
- Powerslave

I think Olofsson can be our Andreas Johnsson. I like Asplund as a long term 3C.

It is. But that’s not how he’s been deployed (I know, not his fault)

He’s 160th among forwards in minutes. That’s low-end 2nd line ice time.

27 points for fringe 2nd line ice time is awful
- sbroads24

Next year:

Chris Taylor
Goaloffson
Asplund
Smith
Borgen

I meant to ask this question before the trade deadline when the Sabres still had 3 1st round picks but figured, even though it is unlikely now, what people thought. Since Buffalo has no 2nd and our goalie situation is Shaky, should they spend a 1st round pick on Spencer Knight? I know Goalies in the First are almost never good, except for Vasilevskiy, who I really wanted at the time, but Knight is being really hyped especially for a goalie his age. So do you guys think it would have been a good idea to grab him when we had the 3 first rounders, and if so should we still be looking to take him even though we are down to 2 first rounders now? I'm not sure if I sway more one way or the other but may not be too mad if they do take him.

I meant to ask this question before the trade deadline when the Sabres still had 3 1st round picks but figured, even though it is unlikely now, what people thought. Since Buffalo has no 2nd and our goalie situation is Shaky, should they spend a 1st round pick on Spencer Knight? I know Goalies in the First are almost never good, except for Vasilevskiy, who I really wanted at the time, but Knight is being really hyped especially for a goalie his age. So do you guys think it would have been a good idea to grab him when we had the 3 first rounders, and if so should we still be looking to take him even though we are down to 2 first rounders now? I'm not sure if I sway more one way or the other but may not be too mad if they do take him.
- Sabrehagan

No way IMO. UPL and Ullmark are the teams future.

Goaltending can be a product of coaching and system. Just get some competent guys and hope one can get hot in the playoffs (if we ever make it there)

7th on the team in both the regular season and playoffs last year, 3rd line tweener. 8th so far this year, give him 5th or 6th if he played the whole year. 2nd line tweener. He's also shooting a whopping 18% which is double digits over his career average. He is 12th on the Caps in point share this year.

That's what he is, and he's a player that kills them with penalties. He takes over one minor a game. He has double the PIM the next closest player, Kempny, who has played 15 more games. Could you imagine how much poop Sam would take if he took a minor a game? But Wilson hits guys, so it's all good.
- Wetbandit1

Yes!
And pops in 22...a couple more than Sam.
He isn't Mike Bossy, but he has solidified a top line on a Stanley Cup winning team.
I'll take him any friggin day ov the weak, all week.

Yes!
And pops in 22...a couple more than Sam.
He isn't Mike Bossy, but he has solidified a top line on a Stanley Cup winning team.
I'll take him any friggin day ov the weak, all week.
- IonSabres

Seems really obvious.

Some people don't like physical play or are confused by the underlying toughness factor in the nhl

Anyone that has played at any level understands that physical players make winning difficult. Tom Wilson can score and add that element

Seems really obvious.

Some people don't like physical play or are confused by the underlying toughness factor in the nhl

Anyone that has played at any level understands that physical players make winning difficult. Tom Wilson can score and add that element
- Boss34

I have 0 idea why we are talking about Tom Wilson again.

He isn’t a Sabre and won’t be one

I have 0 idea why we are talking about Tom Wilson again.

He isn’t a Sabre and won’t be one
- sbroads24

Some people still bring up ek9 , ror, myers, armia and gmtm

I was trying to have a conversation about the top 12 forwards. I thought I brought up a few decent points.

Erod conversation is pretty slow.

We need 4 or 5 new forwards.
Replace 22,28,20,71,29, and 17.

Maybe keep 2 of them.
Pommer cheap
17 or 22 for 4th line center


Rochester seems to have 2 or 3 guys
Trade 55 for one
Sign another ex penguin for the other

Some people still bring up ek9 , ror, myers, armia and gmtm

I was trying to have a conversation about the top 12 forwards. I thought I brought up a few decent points.

Erod conversation is pretty slow.

We need 4 or 5 new forwards.
Replace 22,28,20,71,29, and 17.

Maybe keep 2 of them.
Pommer cheap
17 or 22 for 4th line center


Rochester seems to have 2 or 3 guys
Trade 55 for one
Sign another ex penguin for the other
- Boss34

But he’s never been a Sabre.

I don’t get though, who wouldn’t take a Wilson type of player if we drafted one in the mid-first?

I’ll take Reinhart over Wilson as a # 2 pick 7 days a week.

Yes!
And pops in 22...a couple more than Sam.
He isn't Mike Bossy, but he has solidified a top line on a Stanley Cup winning team.
I'll take him any friggin day ov the weak, all week.
- IonSabres

I'm not saying he sucks, but he's not worth $5M. he takes way, way too many penalties, and he has only 3 total points away from Ovechkin and Backstrom/Kuznetsov, and he plays a poop-ton.

Seems really obvious.

Some people don't like physical play or are confused by the underlying toughness factor in the nhl

Anyone that has played at any level understands that physical players make winning difficult. Tom Wilson can score and add that element
- Boss34

You're wrong, I absolutely love physical play and fights and understand it can be an effective facet to a team's strategy. I, however, do not like scumbag mother(frank)ers trying to end guy's careers once a game. There's a difference between Iginla and Wilson.