Pegullaville
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Mitts looks like the scratch tomorrow night. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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the lack of effort is what I can't stand
this has nothing to do with coaching, they just don't try and go through the motions
15-16 skaters every damn night - homiedclown
I stopped watching closely about a month or so ago
Love the Sabres,
but I’m not putting myself through anymore of the torture that this season has been |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Mitts looks like the scratch tomorrow night. - Pegullaville
Hurt? |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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No it means that defense travels and Flacco played his best when it mattered.
In regards to the Caps you have to assemble the best team. The Capitals had Ovi and Backstrom who were top 5 picks. If Kuznetsov was Canadian he would have went top 5 in his draft class. He fell due to Russian factor and stated he didn’t even know if he was going to come to NA at all. He was know as the best player outside of the NHL for years before finally coming over for the 2013/2014 season (he was drafted in 2010). So yes by having 3 elite forwards, elite goaltending, a great defense corps, and an elite coach they finally got over the hump last year. - Pegullaville
Respectfully, Kuznetsov was drafted where he was drafted. #26. Russian or not Russian
Not top 5
Ovenchin and Backstrom were picked a dozen or so years ago. Look how long it took.
With no high picks or tanking for 12 years.
But they still won
Our goalies are average
Our defense is below average
Our coaching is horrible
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Tom Wilson just got his 22nd goal this season
love him or hate him
he is performing stat wise, like a second line player, is paid what a second line player should get and is a force unlike the floaters we have - homiedclown
Don't tell bandit or mental |
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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 03.16.2011
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Hurt? - jdfitz77
Took line rushes with the defense. Looks like a healthy scratch. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Don't tell bandit or mental - Boss34
Wilson is a good example of how you don’t need to have your 3 best players on your top line
Is he a 1st line talent?
Of course not
The Caps has been rotating that RW spot for years though until Wilson locked it down
He’s just been a good fit
And with him being able to be productive...
it allows Oshie to play on a really good 2nd line that consistently produces |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Took line rushes with the defense. Looks like a healthy scratch. - Pegullaville
That’s weird
I stopped watching closely
Has he been that bad? |
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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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That’s weird
I stopped watching closely
Has he been that bad? - jdfitz77
He set up Reinhart's goal nicely.
No matter your overall view of his game, Sobotka was considerably worse.
(frank) Phil. |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Oh my god I seriously hate Phil Housley |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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He set up Reinhart's goal nicely.
No matter your overall view of his game, Sobotka was considerably worse.
(frank) Phil. - RhinoFan
Strange, mitts made a nice pass, but didnt play alot?
Wonder if phil is trying to prove a point of some sort?
Probably a bit late with this move
11 minutes / -1 |
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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto Joined: 07.01.2016
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Strange, mitts made a nice pass, but didnt play alot?
Wonder if phil is trying to prove a point of some sort?
Probably a bit late with this move
11 minutes / -1 - Boss34
What that he's a moron? |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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He set up Reinhart's goal nicely.
No matter your overall view of his game, Sobotka was considerably worse.
(frank) Phil. - RhinoFan
Well it’s not gonna kill Mitts to sit,
but yeah... Sobatka in the top9 is ridiculous
I’ve been very against that all season long |
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Frizzlefry
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Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY Joined: 10.10.2015
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The Sabres, in 48 seasons have
-Not qualified for playoffs 19 seasons
-Lost in the 1st round 15 times
-Won 1 round 8 times
-Won 2 rounds 5 times
-Won 3 rounds 1 times
Their best success was found in these seasons
2005-06
2006-07
1998-99
1997-98
1979-80
1974-75
That is 6 seasons of being "successful", which is giving them some slack in defining what success is (win 2 series or more)
Historically, the Sabres have been toxic for 42 seasons. - IonSabres
Without doing any research id say the same thing about the Bills. Just hoping the sabres dont get me to the same level of apathy that the Bills have. I don't have any sports after hockey. |
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gordong
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Location: NY Joined: 02.06.2007
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But was it bc he yelled at the officials?
Doubt it - jdfitz77
Well, there's the thing we will never know. But it could have woke his team up after the crappy start they had yesterday, and thus gone on to destroy the head coach that never says boo behind the bench.
emotions are a funny thing, especially with teams. It's why some coaches are better than others... Nolan always got more from his players, Lindy always got more from his players. is it because they scream and yell? no but at the right time it's a hell of a motivating factor. something our dip poop coach has no clue about.
If you truly think emotions don't have a huge part in the is game, you are very mistaken. sometimes the coach yells and screams to wake a guy up, sometimes the team, sometime to say to the team I have your back, it us against the world. did the yell at the officials make a difference yesterday, guess you have to ask the players to know....
But I know this I'd rather have a guy that had a personality behind the bench than someone that shows no emotion...(other than chewing away at 75 sticks of gum) if you think the players don't take on the same personally as your coach you're mistaken. |
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Mentalorgasm5
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Location: "F-" Robert, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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What happened to Jeff Skinner? He straight up Evander Kaned us. ONE goal in the last 17 games, and only 6 points in the same stretch. |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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He set up Reinhart's goal nicely.
No matter your overall view of his game, Sobotka was considerably worse.
(frank) Phil. - RhinoFan
As soon as Phil realized that Erod doesn't suck, he stuck Mittelstadt with Sobotka or Larsson and threw him under the bus.
What the (frank) are we doing here if we're scratching Mittelstadt in a useless season?
Can someone please tell Housley that Sobotka sucks? |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Well, there's the thing we will never know. But it could have woke his team up after the crappy start they had yesterday, and thus gone on to destroy the head coach that never says boo behind the bench.
emotions are a funny thing, especially with teams. It's why some coaches are better than others... Nolan always got more from his players, Lindy always got more from his players. is it because they scream and yell? no but at the right time it's a hell of a motivating factor. something our dip poop coach has no clue about.
If you truly think emotions don't have a huge part in the is game, you are very mistaken. sometimes the coach yells and screams to wake a guy up, sometimes the team, sometime to say to the team I have your back, it us against the world. did the yell at the officials make a difference yesterday, guess you have to ask the players to know....
But I know this I'd rather have a guy that had a personality behind the bench than someone that shows no emotion...(other than chewing away at 75 sticks of gum) if you think the players don't take on the same personally as your coach you're mistaken. - gordong
But not every good coach is a yeller & screamer
And not all yellers & screamers are good coaches
Nolan is a great example
Sure... he could motivate some guys
or maybe he just had guys that played hard regardless & he gets credit for it
Either way...
he was still a terrible coach
Which is why he’s struggled to find work ever since he left here the first time
Of course emotions play a part of a game
And I’m not totally discounting that here n there
But if you’re yelling all the time,
It’s gonna get stale pretty fast
And if you need to yell CONSISTENTLY to get your team fired up or whatever,
then your bigger problem is that you’ve got a flawed team that’s not going far no matter how much u yell or scream |
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Losman
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Joined: 08.30.2006
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Without doing any research id say the same thing about the Bills. Just hoping the sabres dont get me to the same level of apathy that the Bills have. I don't have any sports after hockey. - Frizzlefry
Several seasons ago the Sabres were something like 4th all-time in regular season winning %.
There have been more than 6 good regular seasons here, but not much playoff success.
I think the '92-'93 team was very good, but were undone by injuries.
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Well it’s not gonna kill Mitts to sit,
but yeah... Sobatka in the top9 is ridiculous
I’ve been very against that all season long - jdfitz77
It's not gonna help him either.
He needs reps. I agree though, if they're just gonna stick him with Sobotka and whoever, then just send him to the minors. This is a waste of time |
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gordong
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Location: NY Joined: 02.06.2007
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But not every good coach is a yeller & screamer
And not all yellers & screamers are good coaches
Of course emotions play a part of a game
And I’m not totally discounting that here n there
But if you’re yelling all the time,
It’s gonna get stale pretty fast
And if you need to yell CONSISTENTLY to get your team fired up or whatever,
then your bigger problem is that you’ve got a flawed team that’s not going far no matter how much u yell or scream - jdfitz77
Where did I suggest that we hire a coach that consistently yells and screams?? All I said is someone with a pulse behind the bench. I gave you two pervious coaches that were really good at motivating their team. Not sure I know of any coach that Consistently yells and screams. and of course it would get old if that was the case. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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It's not gonna help him either.
He needs reps. I agree though, if they're just gonna stick him with Sobotka and whoever, then just send him to the minors. This is a waste of time - jcragcrumple
Maybe he’s just outta gas n needs a break
Maybe Housley/Botts wanna give him a game to watch from above
It’s not like when we had Antipin & he was sitting for long stretches
Sitting for a game here or there is no big deal for a young kid
Yeah.. Sobatka sucks
Sucks so much i refuse to spell his name right anymore
I wish he was never brought here,
but he is
Sending Mitts to Roch might have been a good idea
I definitely think Tage should be down there
But since Mitts can’t be in the playoffs for them, idk if sending him down at this point is the right thing
Regardless...
if they feel Mitts needs a night or 2 off for whatever reason
It’s not something to freak out about
Not imo anyways |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Strange, mitts made a nice pass, but didnt play alot?
Wonder if phil is trying to prove a point of some sort?
Probably a bit late with this move
11 minutes / -1 - Boss34
He doesn't have the stones to bench Okposo or Skinner.
Rookies are easy to pick on. A convenient scape goat for a clueless coach |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Maybe he’s just outta gas n needs a break
Maybe Housley/Botts wanna give him a game to watch from above
It’s not like when we had Antipin & he was sitting for long stretches
Sitting for a game here or there is no big deal for a young kid
Yeah.. Sobatka sucks
Sucks so much i refuse to spell his name right anymore
I wish he was never brought here,
but he is
Sending Mitts to Roch might have been a good idea
I definitely think Tage should be down there
But since Mitts can’t be in the playoffs for them, idk if sending him down at this point is the right thing
Regardless...
if they feel Mitts needs a night or 2 off for whatever reason
It’s not something to freak out about
Not imo anyways - jdfitz77
To be fair, you never spelled his name right
But Mittelstadt should be playing, and playing with the best players available, because playing Sobotka in any role, but especially a top 9 role, is a useless exercise when there's nothing to play for |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Big difference tanking for #1
The previous disagreement was tanking for 8th vs 12th- or before that a Top10 pick vs making the playoffs & losing round 1, picking 16th-ish
Which was a moot argument anyways bc it’s not like the current players were gonna try to lose
And it’s not like management could really do much to affect things 1 way or the other - jdfitz77
Well
1st, no team in the NHL can tank for #1, nor 2, nor 3 anymore.
It is only a chance, and a significantly reduced chance that it works out that way...it is a major difference.
So no, I can't buy that explanation.
2nd, the benefit in having a higher pick is twofold
I) it may allow the team to draft a player is a different tier of projected play. This year, Hughes and Kakko are thought to be in a different tier than the ne t 8 or so after them...then again another tier kicks in around 10 to 20. So, theoretically that 8 vs 12 COULD be a difference.
B) it allows the team to have control over the player THEY prefer, rather than leftovers even within a tier. This year, I would prefer to have Cozens because he matches what I think the team needs...size, skating, skill, sniper and some degree of physicality. Others seem to be more like a Nylander...more perimeter, more distributor of pucks.
Summary, tanking has merit.
Glad you now see it.
Does that change now mean Pegulaville and other tankers are now good fans because you joined their line of thinking? |
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