I don't follow the Primyeah League.
- jmatchett383

Yeah I didn't think about that. I was just focusing on the big 4. Wouldn't surprise me to see Man United shell out a billion to the next Rinaldo.

I'm not sure about first game, but it seems like we always get burned. It's either a player mired in a long goal drought or an ex Flyer that burns us.
- cdearth23

Okay then. Who was the last ex-Flyers who burned us?

I agree it happened for a number of years, but the only ex-Flyers who scored on us that I can think of this season are Jeff Carter and Brayden Schenn, and we won the LA game.

I'd rather have skill than physicality. Pittsburgh and Washington have won the last 3 Cups, and the toughest defenseman they had among those 3 squads was an over-the-hill, seldom-used Brooks Orpik.
- jmatchett383

Being physical isn’t all Hägg, Morin and Gudas are. Of course you need a mix of skills to fill all the roles. It’s one of the reasons I don’t really like the Hägg - Gudas pairing, but they have made it work many times. They can both move the puck and both have a good shot. The reason I referenced Hagg’s age is because he is still improving his game.

As far as Morin goes, I love him. Hope he surprises everyone.

What's wrong with hoping our in-house prior first round pick in Morin is better than Hagg? Wouldn't that be a good thing if he is? Hagg is a fine 5-6 but i just hope Morin pushes him out, his game is limited.
- ClaudeFather

You’re hoping Morin will push Hägg our?? I think the writing is on the wall for a Mac buyout. No need to force anyone out.

I don't know. If I were to choose the players I'd like to suit up the best team that I can. I believe that Gudas is better than Hagg regardless of the salary.
- RustyPipes

You can’t trade Gudas while banking on Morin who seems to be rarely healthy.

It's realistic that Morin can be better than Hagg, all 5 better than Provorov.....
- ClaudeFather

I don’t think it’s realistic. Not impossible but I won’t go as far as saying it’s realistic that Morin will be better than Hägg. Hägg and Sanheim have already beaten Morin for roster spots.

You can’t trade Gudas while banking on Morin who seems to be rarely healthy.
- SuperSchennBros

They have Gudas under contract for next season. They don’t have to decide this until summer 2020.

You’re hoping Morin will push Hägg our?? I think the writing is on the wall for a Mac buyout. No need to force anyone out.
- SuperSchennBros

No need to buy him out, just waive him if need be. They have more than enough cap space.

It will all be moot anyway when we lose Hagg to Seattle in the expansion draft.
- MBFlyerfan

Another considerable possibility.

Being physical isn’t all Hägg, Morin and Gudas are. Of course you need a mix of skills to fill all the roles. It’s one of the reasons I don’t really like the Hägg - Gudas pairing, but they have made it work many times. They can both move the puck and both have a good shot. The reason I referenced Hagg’s age is because he is still improving his game.

As far as Morin goes, I love him. Hope he surprises everyone.
- NC Flyers Fan

I think that, while still relatively young, there isn't much more to see with Hagg. Maybe a slight upgrade, but he's pretty much what he's gonna be.

No need to buy him out, just waive him if need be. They have more than enough cap space.
- jmatchett383

I’m hoping for a buyout. I don’t even want even a breeze of wind to remind our management staff that he’s an available option.

I’m hoping for a buyout. I don’t even want even a breeze of wind to remind our management staff that he’s an available option.
- SuperSchennBros

Well that's fine, but if they want to bury him and use his a an 8D, I'm okay with it, plus no cap hit 2 years from now.

Also, if they retain 50%, they can probably find a trading partner if they wanted to.

Okay then. Who was the last ex-Flyers who burned us?

I agree it happened for a number of years, but the only ex-Flyers who scored on us that I can think of this season are Jeff Carter and Brayden Schenn, and we won the LA game.
- jmatchett383

I feel like Justin Williams and Patrick Sharp had our number. Recchi and Ricci.

I feel like Justin Williams and Patrick Sharp had our number. Recchi and Ricci.
- cdearth23

They did, maybe not Ricci. Ben Eager obviously had a huge one. But really, it hasn't happened much lately.

I feel like Justin Williams and Patrick Sharp had our number. Recchi and Ricci.
- cdearth23

Justin Williams scores on us this season.

Well that's fine, but if they want to bury him and use his a an 8D, I'm okay with it, plus no cap hit 2 years from now.

Also, if they retain 50%, they can probably find a trading partner if they wanted to.
- jmatchett383

I hope they find a trade partner but unlikely.

I hope they find a trade partner but unlikely.
- SuperSchennBros

You could do a lot worse for a #7 than AMac at $2.5M for one year.

Being physical isn’t all Hägg, Morin and Gudas are. Of course you need a mix of skills to fill all the roles. It’s one of the reasons I don’t really like the Hägg - Gudas pairing, but they have made it work many times. They can both move the puck and both have a good shot. The reason I referenced Hagg’s age is because he is still improving his game.

As far as Morin goes, I love him. Hope he surprises everyone.
- NC Flyers Fan

I’m with you on splitting Gudas and Hägg. My dream pairs would be Provorov/Myers, Sanheim/Gudas, Hägg/Ghost.

I wouldn’t write off Hägg as a player who cannot offers more.

I think that, while still relatively young, there isn't much more to see with Hagg. Maybe a slight upgrade, but he's pretty much what he's gonna be.
- jmatchett383

Maybe this is what I see differently. Hägg doesn’t improve as quickly as say Myers or Sanheim but if you compare Hägg now to Hägg a year ago, you will see the improvement. I think we could see more improvement by next summer.

Fedotenko

I’m with you on splitting Gudas and Hägg. My dream pairs would be Provorov/Myers, Sanheim/Gudas, Hägg/Ghost.

I wouldn’t write off Hägg as a player who cannot offers more.
- SuperSchennBros

I just see Hagg as a physical, defensively-oriented player who plays a good positional game and has some minor deficiency at moving the puck out of the zone. I think he could be better, but I don't see him ever having the puck skills or offensive IQ required to be more than a 5/6.

I hope he proves me wrong.

Fedotenko
- KINGKENZO

Zubrus

Fedotenko
- KINGKENZO

During the 2004 playoffs with Tampa, as well at other stops in Pittsburgh and NYR. He was frustrating.

During the 2004 playoffs with Tampa, as well at other stops in Pittsburgh and NYR. He was frustrating.
- johndewar

Hey, he scored for us all on Fan Appreciation Day in 2013.

Maybe this is what I see differently. Hägg doesn’t improve as quickly as say Myers or Sanheim but if you compare Hägg now to Hägg a year ago, you will see the improvement. I think we could see more improvement by next summer.
- NC Flyers Fan

I like Haag as a player but I'm in agreement with hoping Morin surpasses him. I want the player in the role as a physical defensive defenseman to be better in his own end than Haag is. To be a stalwart on the PK.