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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 18 @ 3:58 PM ET
and YOURE not getting it....

We are NOWHERE NEAR the playoff race NOW...because Skinner...STOPPED DOING HIS job...

your argument: when skinner was doing his job..we were RIGHT IN THE THICK OF THINGS....(correct)

my argument: "as soon as skinner STOPPED doing his job...we fell out of the race...(also correct)

- RippedFuel


So the whole thing falls on Skinner.... Why have anyone else play?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
Yep.....if over 7, let him walk. And make a good hockey trade to replace him. Get the NEXT guy looking to be overpaid. Skinner at his current salary is a VERY good deal...at 9...terrible. Bots has made some good hockey trades....Skinner, Montour...Go get the NEXT Skinner at 5 million..rather than paying TWICE that to watch him vanish again in March
- RippedFuel


Trade from a position of strength to replace him? Do we have one of those?

Letting him walk is losing talent in a system that is lacking talent.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 18 @ 4:02 PM ET
want me to go back and reference all the people that agree hes not worth 9 mill??

Its like talk radio...the bigmouth angry people are the most likely to call...

the people that agree....don't bother

- RippedFuel


Please!

Please show me all the posters talking about 7M being his high end value. You said that a few posts ago. Where are those that agree?

*crickets*
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 18 @ 4:04 PM ET
want me to go back and reference all the people that agree hes not worth 9 mill??

Its like talk radio...the bigmouth angry people are the most likely to call...

the people that agree....don't bother

- RippedFuel


I don't think anyone is telling you you can't be in the "lane" that doesn't want 9M. I think they're saying your argument about quitting is incorrect, due to a multitude of factors. Goal scorers are streaky, even Kane so that's why he was used as an example, not a comparison. Skinners skid coincided right around the same time he took that nasty fall. Quitting and not producing are not the same thing. Just to clarify, you're ok with 7M if he's not doing his job, but not 7.1M and not doing the job. I'm not ok with either.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 18 @ 4:05 PM ET
yawn........
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
Please!

Please show me all the posters talking about 7M being his high end value. You said that a few posts ago. Where are those that agree?

*crickets*

- RhinoFan


7 mil, Skinners agent is not even picking up the phone to start a conversation at 7 mil.

I don't want to pay more then 8.5 and I would like that at 4-5 years. Sadly I don't think that is going to happen. Some GM will offer him 7 @ 9 large.
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:07 PM ET
I don't think anyone is telling you you can't be in the "lane" that doesn't want 9M. I think they're saying your argument about quitting is incorrect, due to a multitude of factors. Goal scorers are streaky, even Kane so that's why he was used as an example, not a comparison. Skinners skid coincided right around the same time he took that nasty fall. Quitting and not producing are not the same thing. Just to clarify, you're ok with 7M if he's not doing his job, but not 7.1M and not doing the job. I'm not ok with either.
- SDSabre


Frankly, i couldn't care less about what youre "ok" with...
metzeric
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.06.2006

Mar 18 @ 4:08 PM ET
Frankly, i couldn't care less about what youre "ok" with...
- RippedFuel

Let me know when you are done for the day. I'm getting headache from reading 1000 posts from you
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:13 PM ET
So the whole thing falls on Skinner.... Why have anyone else play?
- hehateme


Hes the most highly paid player, contributing the least. He deserves a lot of the blame for the collapse. Hes the guy that wants 70m
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:16 PM ET
beginning of the year and be honest, hoe many goals are realistic for Skinner?
- hehateme


30-35
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
Hes the most highly paid player, contributing the least. He deserves a lot of the blame for the collapse. Hes the guy that wants 70m
- RippedFuel


FALSE

He's 3rd. Eichel and Okposo make more and Pominville is just behind.

And contributing the least is laughable, even for you.
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
FALSE

He's 3rd. Eichel and Okposo make more and Pominville is just behind.

And contributing the least is laughable, even for you.

- Wetbandit1

You missed my point. I wont even try...the adults here understood my point.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
You missed my point. I wont even try...the adults here understood my pont.
- RippedFuel


Okposo is the highest paid player contributing the least
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
want me to go back and reference all the people that agree hes not worth 9 mill??

Its like talk radio...the bigmouth angry people are the most likely to call...

the people that agree....don't bother

- RippedFuel


A lot of those people think he's not worth $9M, myself included, but that doesn't mean that those people think he's all of a sudden "not doing his job" when even the best players have the exact same cold streaks this season. Matthews had one goal in what 13? games earlier this year? What about him? He has no Cups.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
You missed my point. I wont even try...the adults here understood my pont.
- RippedFuel


You don't have a point, you're the big mouth drunkard who calls into talk radio blasting Eichel because he hasn't scored in 3 games.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 18 @ 4:23 PM ET


a goal in late October is not as valuable as a goal in Early March

- RippedFuel


holy poop
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
You don't have a point, you're the big mouth drunkard who calls into talk radio blasting Eichel because he hasn't scored in 3 games.
- Wetbandit1


Wrong. When the season was in balance, Eichel upped his game. 53 vanished.

And i havent bern drunk in 25 years.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
Okposo is the highest paid player contributing the least
- Powerslave


No, stupid, it's the guy who has 26 more goals than Okposo that's not contributing.

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
No, stupid, it's the guy who has 26 more goals than Okposo that's not contributing.


- Wetbandit1


😂😂😂
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
A lot of those people think he's not worth $9M, myself included, but that doesn't mean that those people think he's all of a sudden "not doing his job" when even the best players have the exact same cold streaks this season. Matthews had one goal in what 13? games earlier this year? What about him? He has no Cups.
- Wetbandit1


Hes scored once in 14 games...what is his job exactly?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
Wrong. When the season was in balance, Eichel upped his game. 53 vanished.

And i havent bern drunk in 25 years.

- RippedFuel


When exactly was the season "in the balance"?
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:28 PM ET
No, stupid, it's the guy who has 26 more goals than Okposo that's not contributing.


- Wetbandit1


If we COULD get rid of 21, we would. We dont HAVE to overpay a guy who VANISHED when he was needed most.
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Mar 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
When exactly was the season "in the balance"?
- Wetbandit1


Falling out of the playoffs because we couldnt score
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
Hes scored once in 14 games...what is his job exactly?
- RippedFuel


This is where it gets twisted for you. Even the best goal scorers go cold. It's not that they're "not doing their job" Skinner has hit a ton of posts that should've gone in, not like off the outside and into the crowd. He's been unlucky. The team has absolutely sucked which doesn't help. Streaks are irrelevent it's where you end up that matters. A point missed in October that knocks you out of the playoffs is just as important than a point missed in the 82nd game. They're worth the same amount. If you got that point in October you needn't worry about the 82nd game.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Mar 18 @ 4:31 PM ET
If we COULD get rid of 21, we would. We dont HAVE to overpay a guy who VANISHED when he was needed most.
- RippedFuel



Skinner is the purest goal scorer in the league, 9 million is a steal
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