Leivo i like, Pearson, too early to tell. Sven, move him.
- VanHockeyGuy

Pearson has had a bad year and will probably be here next year which is fine. I don't know if he will be long term. As you said wait and see.

Here is a scouting report on Seider

Huge German defender with a strong two way game and a willingness to take the body whenever the opportunity occurs. Will get stronger and is still growing into his frame. Cemented his status as a possible first rounder after his performance in the B-pool of the World Junior U-20. A defender who can play big minutes shoulder the responsibilities in all phases, due to his maturity. Displays a strong under control game with strong hockey smarts. Not a burner or offenseman type, but makes the transition outlet pass and is comfortable carrying the mail out of his end. Has a strong accurate shot.

At this juncture, he might not look like a first pair NHL defender offensively or a first pair PP QB, but there is plenty here to like, and good be a value sleeper taken mid-first round

--Bill Placzek--
- VANTEL

Vanhockeyguy. I was just saying there are other reports that say the opposite. Here is one. Hard to tell when it’s the german league. Think id want one of the ten guys ranked higher than him, seems like a reach

Yup it is all about opinion on here. Others want to fix the scoring , I want to fix the back end . They both need fixing. IMO the back end is the hardest to fix and the most costliest in trade and Free Agency and that is why I want to draft the best D available .

Looking at Fabbro who was drafted 17 th, Nashville are asking for a first round pick in a trade.
- VANTEL

Asking and getting. I hope VAN picks him up at the draft. If there's picks involved, they'd be in 2020 and hopefully not a first.

Vanhockeyguy. I was just saying there are other reports that say the opposite. Here is one. Hard to tell when it’s the german league. Think id want one of the ten guys ranked higher than him, seems like a reach
- neem55

Of course. You never know what can happen at the draft, say for example if VAN scouts liked him JB finds a way to pick him, or someone else they target by moving up or down. Not easy to do, seems to work better in the NFL.

Asking and getting. I hope VAN picks him up at the draft. If there's picks involved, they'd be in 2020 and hopefully not a first.
- VanHockeyGuy

Maybe a cap dump? Poile will fleece JB, of that we can be sure.

Maybe a cap dump? Poile will fleece JB, of that we can be sure.
- neem55

Of course. You never know what can happen at the draft, say for example if VAN scouts liked him JB finds a way to pick him, or someone else they target by moving up or down. Not easy to do, seems to work better in the NFL.
- VanHockeyGuy

Jb seems to know what he is doing and has his staff in place to make the draft work every year. It’s the one thing I’m 100% confident in him doing and the only reason to keep him around. It is a good reason though imo.

Jb seems to know what he is doing and has his staff in place to make the draft work every year. It’s the one thing I’m 100% confident in him doing and the only reason to keep him around. It is a good reason though imo.
- neem55

Agreed. We need a another good draft year again, and hopefully a little bit of luck.

- VanHockeyGuy

To be fair, Poile seems to be on the winning end of most trades. I wouldnt hate someone who came up in the Nashville system being an exec in van

To be fair, Poile seems to be on the winning end of most trades. I wouldnt hate someone who came up in the Nashville system being an exec in van
- neem55

and bringing a couple of scouts and D prospects along

and bringing a couple of scouts and D prospects along
- VanHockeyGuy

Ya however they are assessing d, it’s working

Ya however they are assessing d, it’s working
- neem55

Wooooooooo!

Just because you have a higher ranking does not make you a NHL player .
Fabbro was picked 17 th , here are some players ranked higher that have not yet proven to be NHL players.

Jesse Puljujarvi
Olli Juolevi
Alex Nylander
Logan Brown
Michael McLeod
Jake Bean
Luke Kunin

Havening a higher ranking doesn't mean a sure fired NHL career

Just because you have a higher ranking does not make you a NHL player .
Fabbro was picked 17 th , here are some players ranked higher that have not yet proven to be NHL players.

Jesse Puljujarvi
Olli Juolevi
Alex Nylander
Logan Brown
Michael McLeod
Jake Bean
Luke Kunin

Havening a higher ranking doesn't mean a sure fired NHL career
- VANTEL

True dat EP is another example

Green has tough words on Goldy


- VANTEL

He’s spot on, but if he plays Schaller again then he’s a hypocrite. Schaller brings nothing, at least Goldy might give you a nice offensive play or 2. Schaller sucks in all 3 zones.

Time to move on from guys like Goldy, Granlund, Schaller, Eriksson as NHL’ers.

I’d keep Goldy/Granlund as AHL vets and call-up players but that’s about it.

Hopefully fans have learned that “depth” really isn’t valuable when it’s just a bunch of fringe players. People were worried this pre-season that there weren’t enough roster spots and now Green is trying to figure out who sucks the least.

The early signs were there too, I remember a few of us were disappointed during the pre-season when none of the bubble players outside of Motte actually played decently during pre-season games.

This team is still full of scraps and injury prone players.

He’s spot on, but if he plays Schaller again then he’s a hypocrite. Schaller brings nothing, at least Goldy might give you a nice offensive play or 2. Schaller sucks in all 3 zones.

Time to move on from guys like Goldy, Granlund, Schaller, Eriksson as NHL’ers.

I’d keep Goldy/Granlund as AHL vets and call-up players but that’s about it.

Hopefully fans have learned that “depth” really isn’t valuable when it’s just a bunch of fringe players. People were worried this pre-season that there weren’t enough roster spots and now Green is trying to figure out who sucks the least.

The early signs were there too, I remember a few of us were disappointed during the pre-season when none of the bubble players outside of Motte actually played decently during pre-season games.
- Nucker101

Sutter Tanev and Sven need to go also 12 mil for three guys combined play 82 games

He’s spot on, but if he plays Schaller again then he’s a hypocrite. Schaller brings nothing, at least Goldy might give you a nice offensive play or 2. Schaller sucks in all 3 zones.

Time to move on from guys like Goldy, Granlund, Schaller, Eriksson as NHL’ers.

I’d keep Goldy/Granlund as AHL vets and call-up players but that’s about it.

Hopefully fans have learned that “depth” really isn’t valuable when it’s just a bunch of fringe players. People were worried this pre-season that there weren’t enough roster spots and now Green is trying to figure out who sucks the least.

The early signs were there too, I remember a few of us were disappointed during the pre-season when none of the bubble players outside of Motte actually played decently during pre-season games.

This team is still full of scraps and injury prone players.
- Nucker101

^^^
This, thank you

Sutter Tanev and Sven need to go also 12 mil for three guys combined play 82 games
- VANTEL

Yeah, see my edit.

The only players on this team I like up front are EP, Boeser, Horvat, Roussel, Virtanen, Gaudette and Leivo.

Motte is OK too. Pearson is TBD.

That leaves:
Eriksson
Sutter
Beagle
Baertschi
Goldobin
Schaller
Granlund

Yeah, see my edit.

The only players on this team I like up front are EP, Boeser, Horvat, Roussel, Virtanen, Gaudette and Leivo.

Motte is OK too. Pearson/Goldobin is TBD.
- Nucker101

adjusted

Yeah, see my edit.

The only players on this team I like up front are EP, Boeser, Horvat, Roussel, Virtanen, Gaudette and Leivo.

Motte is OK too. Pearson is TBD.
- Nucker101

I agree 110%

adjusted

- VanHockeyGuy

Goldy = Shirokov 2.0

He’s spot on, but if he plays Schaller again then he’s a hypocrite. Schaller brings nothing, at least Goldy might give you a nice offensive play or 2. Schaller sucks in all 3 zones.

Time to move on from guys like Goldy, Granlund, Schaller, Eriksson as NHL’ers.

I’d keep Goldy/Granlund as AHL vets and call-up players but that’s about it.

Hopefully fans have learned that “depth” really isn’t valuable when it’s just a bunch of fringe players. People were worried this pre-season that there weren’t enough roster spots and now Green is trying to figure out who sucks the least.

The early signs were there too, I remember a few of us were disappointed during the pre-season when none of the bubble players outside of Motte actually played decently during pre-season games.

This team is still full of scraps and injury prone players.
- Nucker101

Agreed, but how exactly does the team move on from Eriksson? Dude’s superglued to the Canaucks.

Agreed, but how exactly does the team move on from Eriksson? Dude’s superglued to the Canaucks.
- CubanBuffet

Send him to Utica, who in turn demote him to Kalamazoo.
This might be the only option, as it saves million in capspace, which is more than a buyout.

What a bad contract and bad hockey player.

Yeah, see my edit.

The only players on this team I like up front are EP, Boeser, Horvat, Roussel, Virtanen, Gaudette and Leivo.

Motte is OK too. Pearson is TBD.

That leaves:
Eriksson
Sutter
Beagle
Baertschi
Goldobin
Schaller
Granlund
- Nucker101

I would tell ZackMac Dude if you want to be a regular NHL player you need to go out and hit people all the time

Bottom 6

Leivo Gaudette Roussel

Motte Beagle Zack

It still makes my cringe when I hear Benning say we would have made the playoffs with a healthy Sutter

Yeah, see my edit.

The only players on this team I like up front are EP, Boeser, Horvat, Roussel, Virtanen, Gaudette and Leivo.

Motte is OK too. Pearson is TBD.

That leaves:
Eriksson
Sutter
Beagle
Baertschi
Goldobin
Schaller
Granlund
- Nucker101

Whenever I see the lineup broken down like this, I realize just how far away this team is...3 more years.