Letting assets walk away for zippo works 100% of the time though.
- bobbyisno1

Nothing works 100% of the time. But rentals and own-rentals is a common tactic for contenders in sports. Which the Leafs absolutely are and were last year.

Letting assets walk away for zippo works 100% of the time though.
- bobbyisno1

Ok. So what are the leafs gaining by trading Gardiner?

Worsening their chances for a chance at a cup in their cup window? For a maybe that might contribute when the window is winding down?

Seriously. Think about what you are proposing here. It’s ridiculous.

Hey! Maybe we can get a Gardiner type player for the pick we get! He will help the Leafs so much when Matthews is 30 and making 18 million a year!

You honestly think they are winning the cup?
Did you think they were winning it last year, yeah for sure they couldn't have used something in return.
And we're the ones that can't get it through our heads.
- bobbyisno1

An expansion team made the finals. They are top 5 in the NHL and 2nd in goal diff. This isn't the NBA. Many teams can win.

I said it before the trade deadline last year, that isn't hindsight.
- bobbyisno1

How do you know the ramifications of management signaling to the team they were giving up firepower going into the playoffs after the best regular season in franchise history? Think about that. You just don't do it. It's hindsight because they didn't win, but it would be the correct tactic to do again.

How do you know the ramifications of management signaling to the team they were giving up firepower going into the playoffs after the best regular season in franchise history? Think about that. You just don't do it. It's hindsight because they didn't win, but it would be the correct tactic to do again.
- Zezel

People think winning the cup is having good prospects to read about. Most of those prospects end up being poop.

How do you know the ramifications of management signaling to the team they were giving up firepower going into the playoffs after the best regular season in franchise history? Think about that. You just don't do it. It's hindsight because they didn't win, but it would be the correct tactic to do again.
- Zezel

It was incorrect last year and apparently now that Gardiner won't play another game it is incorrect this year, plus he should have been traded for scraps cause he sucks.

People think winning the cup is having good prospects to read about. Most of those prospects end up being poop.
- Santo_44

And without a good prospect pool you don't remain a contender.

People think winning the cup is having good prospects to read about. Most of those prospects end up being poop.
- Santo_44

It's like fans want to be undefeated at the deadline or something, it's bizarre. It's a cap world, you gave to go for it and fold some assets.

Trade everyone

They knew he wouldn't be re-signed.
Sound familiar?
- bobbyisno1

So?

It was incorrect last year and apparently now that Gardiner won't play another game it is incorrect this year, plus he should have been traded for scraps cause he sucks.
- bobbyisno1

No, it was totally the correct play. Just because something doesn't work doesn't mean it was the wrong tactic. That's basic.

Yep, worked so well last year.
- bobbyisno1

Used cap space from bozak and jvr to sign JT. I think they did quite well on that. What's to complain about?

So?
- burn

So if you have people you know you're not going to re-sign then let them walk.

And without a good prospect pool you don't remain a contender.
- bobbyisno1

You sure can.

You are missing the whole point of being a contender. It’s to win while your window is open.

Trading good players away in your window of contending is plain stupid.

And guess what? No teams do that. Why? Because it’s stupidity.

Letting assets walk away for zippo works 100% of the time though.
- bobbyisno1

They got nothing in return? Cap space?

No, it was totally the correct play. Just because something doesn't work doesn't mean it was the wrong tactic. That's basic.
- Zezel

Wow Monty. Way to shill out on your (frank) up with Project Market Garden. OWN IT.

Letting assets walk away for zippo works 100% of the time though.
- bobbyisno1

How do you feel about contending teams acquiring assets with expiring contracts?

I said it before the trade deadline last year, that isn't hindsight.
- bobbyisno1

Playoff teams don't trade away parts of their team heading into the playoffs. That's dumb

Playoff teams don't trade away parts of their team heading into the playoffs. That's dumb
- burn

Getting nothing in return is more dumb, also the word is stupid.

Playoff teams don't trade away parts of their team heading into the playoffs. That's dumb
- burn

St. Louis did it with Stastny. Not that it mattered to anybody.Wild just did it. Depends where you're at. Leafs aren't in that mode, maybe last year you could argue they should have/could have, but not this year. They need their Blackhawks/Penguins esque push to show they have something other than "potential."

It was incorrect last year and apparently now that Gardiner won't play another game it is incorrect this year, plus he should have been traded for scraps cause he sucks.
- bobbyisno1

Why was it incorrect? You're stating it as a fact, it's not a fact it's an opinion.

They couldn't trade gardiner cause he's injured right now. People make no sense

Wow Monty. Way to shill out on your (frank) up with Project Market Garden. OWN IT.
- AdamFrench

They won the war after all.

Well, now Merkel is the leader of the free world so who knows.

It was incorrect last year and apparently now that Gardiner won't play another game it is incorrect this year, plus he should have been traded for scraps cause he sucks.
- bobbyisno1

The D misses Gardiner a lot since he's been injured. This is so obvious. Zaitsev "Sucks", not Gardiner.

If Sparks lets in no more than 5 goals, we have a shot...

If Sparks lets in no more than 5 goals, we have a shot...
- SofaKingBored

5parks?