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TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Mar 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
fire everyone
- trikkdaniels

Agreed
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
Risto’s 5v5 starts were almost all in our DZone yesterday, but only one shot allowed while he was on ice.

https://twitter.com/ineff.../1105643647884816385?s=21

I’m not ready to throw him away yet.

- Der Kaiser



oh come on, he sucks!.... just ask 30 people on this board. Getting Risto off this team would just be another in a long line of letting someone go only to have to try and replace him..... Something we have been doing for 2 years now. Are we ever going to just start to add players and get better?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 1:54 PM ET
You have absolutely horrible judgement for someone in your position and it just proves that refs in hockey are biased and corrupt. The Skinner trip and then you literally aid Zadorov DIDN'T rip Jack's helmet off.

I am a lot younger than 50, btw, but part of the reason I stopped playing hockey is because of referees calling the game like 5 year olds.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Cry about it some more.

Zadorov didn’t rip Jacks helmet off.

To rip someone’s helmet off you use your glove and pull away.

That didn’t happen.

Skinner got tripped it was a penalty.

Funny how nobody in the media thought it was dirty. How not one player said it was dirty but some clown who thinks he knows everything.

My judgement is spot on. You’re a clown and fine if you’re not playing in the 50 and over league go back to the C league where you belong.

The real reason you stopped playing is because you don’t understand how the game is played. You don’t understand what a penalty is. You also probably played in a league where most players can’t stop and would bump into you and you’d be crying for a penalty.

My officiating career went a lot farther than any playing career you had did.

I know what I’m talking about, you just think you know which is the worst trait to have as a person. You’re probably the type to argue with your doctor about something because you read an article online.

You think you know but you really don’t. So why don’t you just move along and not mention me anymore? K thanks.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:55 PM ET
The Bills need to win 9 games this season.

No excuses.

- mattsox


No the bar should be 10....
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
No the bar should be 10....
- gordong



Agreed. 10 wins and they’re in the wildcard discussion at least.

It’s tough to predict wins and losses especially in the NFL and this early though.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:00 PM ET
Cry about it some more.

Zadorov didn’t rip Jacks helmet off.

To rip someone’s helmet off you use your glove and pull away.

- Stripes77





Kind of looks like a glove pulling away.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:02 PM ET
I really feel like Beane has put us in a position to win on josh's rookie deal.

Seems like we have a plan for a change.

Allen is gonna be feeling the eichel franchise on your shoulders pressure soon, if not already

- Boss34



Good post!!! agreed on all points.

I think we find out of Allen is going to be THE guy or just A guy this year.... Beane has gone out and at least given Allen a shot at becoming an NFL QB this year. He had almost nothing to work with last year.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:02 PM ET


Kind of looks like a glove pulling away.

- adambuffalo


Yeah a still frame picture.

Now go watch the play full speed. The visor gets caught on his arm while Jack is falling.

There is no motion Zadorov made that would suggest he was trying to rip it off. Just finishing his check.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
Cry about it some more.

Zadorov didn’t rip Jacks helmet off.

To rip someone’s helmet off you use your glove and pull away.

That didn’t happen.

Skinner got tripped it was a penalty.

Funny how nobody in the media thought it was dirty. How not one player said it was dirty but some clown who thinks he knows everything.

My judgement is spot on. You’re a clown and fine if you’re not playing in the 50 and over league go back to the C league where you belong.

The real reason you stopped playing is because you don’t understand how the game is played. You don’t understand what a penalty is. You also probably played in a league where most players can’t stop and would bump into you and you’d be crying for a penalty.

My officiating career went a lot farther than any playing career you had did.

I know what I’m talking about, you just think you know which is the worst trait to have as a person. You’re probably the type to argue with your doctor about something because you read an article online.

You think you know but you really don’t. So why don’t you just move along and not mention me anymore? K thanks.

- Stripes77


Im siding with Stripes here he didn't rip the helmet off after the hit the body (Zadorov) and the boards took it off jacks head.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Mar 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
CLE(X2) - 2 Ls
PITT(X2) - 2 Ls Minus AB and an aging Ben and Oline, disagree
Cin(X2) - Split Do you know how bad Cincy is
BUF - L
Homerism
MIA - W
NE - L
NYJ - W
SF - W
SEA - L
ARI - W
LAR - L
HOU - L
KC - L


5-11

- Sabre_Tooth

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
Yeah a still frame picture.

Now go watch the play full speed. The visor gets caught on his arm while Jack is falling.

There is no motion Zadorov made that would suggest he was trying to rip it off. Just finishing his check.

- Stripes77


Look again.

https://youtu.be/vaTljDqCA-E

There’s a definite “pull down” motion with his left arm when the visor hangs up.

To be fair, I originally thought he tried to rip it off with his hand from the beginning. You convinced me it was a visor hang up, but I still think when he felt the visor Zads gave it a little extra.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:12 PM ET
Look again.

https://youtu.be/vaTljDqCA-E

There’s a definite “pull down” motion with his left arm when the visor hangs up.

To be fair, I originally thought he tried to rip it off with his hand from the beginning. You convinced me it was a visor hang up, but I still think when he felt the visor Zads gave it a little extra.

- Der Kaiser


How does a pull down motion cause the helmet to come off upward?

Edit:

I see what you’re saying but that’s at slow motion. Everything looks bad at slow motion.

Again though I stand by what I said. There was no ripping motion.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
How does a pull down motion cause the helmet to come off upward?
- Stripes77


If you think the helmet comes off “upward” your horribly mistaken.

Just look at the video. 0:54. It is pulled of his head and is dragged down toward the ice.

There’s intent
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
If you think the helmet comes off “upward” your horribly mistaken.

Just look at the video. 0:54. It is pulled of his head and is dragged down toward the ice.

There’s intent

- Der Kaiser


See my edit.

kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 13 @ 2:18 PM ET
If you think the helmet comes off “upward” your horribly mistaken.

Just look at the video. 0:54. It is pulled of his head and is dragged down toward the ice.

There’s intent

- Der Kaiser


Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left...
- kritter65


Physics here


He makes contact and is pushing forward. As Eichel is falling Zadorov is still pushing through.

Jack falls Zaradovs arm rides up and is still going towards the boards.

Experiment time

Using your left hand point a finger into your right hand.

Push with some pressure.

No slide your right hand down when your finger is sliding off your hand notice the reaction from your finger. It picks up speed

Same thing happened here.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 13 @ 2:23 PM ET
Good post!!! agreed on all points.

I think we find out of Allen is going to be THE guy or just A guy this year.... Beane has gone out and at least given Allen a shot at becoming an NFL QB this year. He had almost nothing to work with last year.

- gordong



I hope plan B is to draft another qb in 2020 or 2021 if things do not go well. Not saying that allen doesn't deserve a few years to develop. Just have someone else in line. Maybe not go 20 years without a franchise qb?

I'm super psyched for this season and josh allen. Cant wait.

I always set myself up as a fan for failure. Go Buffalo!

The offensive line signings have been rock solid
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
Physics here


He makes contact and is pushing forward. As Eichel is falling Zadorov is still pushing through.

Jack falls Zaradovs arm rides up and is still going towards the boards.

Experiment time

Using your left hand point a finger into your right hand.

Push with some pressure.

No slide your right hand down when your finger is sliding off your hand notice the reaction from your finger. It picks up speed

Same thing happened here.

- Stripes77

How bout if we say it’s impossible to get it right every time at game speed you just admit he ripped off Jacks helmet?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
I hope plan B is to draft another qb in 2020 or 2021 if things do not go well. Not saying that allen doesn't deserve a few years to develop. Just have someone else in line. Maybe not go 20 years without a franchise qb?

I'm super psyched for this season and josh allen. Cant wait.

I always set myself up as a fan for failure. Go Buffalo!

The offensive line signings have been rock solid

- Boss34


If there isn’t real solid development from Allen they need to think about getting someone else.

Maybe not for next season but have a plan here.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
Hmm, Colts former GM who now is a consultant for the Seahawks was just in the bar for lunch. Wonder who he was checking out?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:26 PM ET
How bout if we say it’s impossible to get it right every time at game speed you just admit he ripped off Jacks helmet?
- Der Kaiser


It is impossible to get everything right that much is true.

But he didn’t rip it off.

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:26 PM ET
Hmm, Colts former GM who now is a consultant for the Seahawks was just in the bar for lunch. Wonder who he was checking out?
- dadeadhead


You and the wings.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 2:28 PM ET
You and the wings.
- Der Kaiser




Doubtful.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:28 PM ET
It is impossible to get everything right that much is true.

But he didn’t rip it off.

- Stripes77


Right. It just fell off - “upward.”

I’ll let it go. It’s not all that important.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 2:29 PM ET
I really don't see much difference between Jack's hit and this one by Buff that was deemed not suspension worthy

https://youtu.be/WYgmU4_VUtY

Could be that the rules have changed or just the tint in the lenses changed.
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