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rapperray
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:48 PM ET
Size , speed , shot . Needs to get some accuracy and chemistry with the linemates if possible . Might need a few in the AHL if thats possible . He works hard out there, just needs the reason too and the points for it .
- cabin



cab when i think of him i think pete mcnabb
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:48 PM ET
this game was over the second Jack got suspended. I see two maybe three more wins this month... that's it
- gordong

I looked at the schedule and figured a 5 game lose streak even with Jack
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:48 PM ET
cab when i think of him i think pete mcnabb
- rapperray

gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:50 PM ET
I looked at the schedule and figured a 5 game lose streak even with Jack
- cabin


yeah this is a ruff stretch ....
pwasil7
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.16.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:50 PM ET
10th overall pick at the start of today

8th overall pick after the game

- metzeric


and better odds to get the #1 pick
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Mar 12 @ 9:50 PM ET
Can we go 3 games in a row without scoring a point. It's looking promising.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 9:50 PM ET
tell me again.... what sabre scored tonight??????????
- rapperray

$500 says Jack does


does this mean I am hating on him?
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:51 PM ET
I looked at the schedule and figured a 5 game lose streak even with Jack
- cabin



i say they win 2 games the rest of the way...
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:52 PM ET
$500 says Jack does


does this mean I am hating on him?

- homiedclown



hater.....
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Mar 12 @ 9:52 PM ET
Size , speed , shot . Needs to get some accuracy and chemistry with the linemates if possible . Might need a few in the AHL if thats possible . He works hard out there, just needs the reason too and the points for it .
- cabin

I don’t know anything about TT’s mental makeup. Is he a guy who’s look at a stint in Rochester as an opportunity?
Or would he see it as a slap in the face, and just go down there and loaf. Then wait to be gifted another year with the big club next season?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:52 PM ET
i say they win 2 games the rest of the way...
- rapperray

Haven't looked past the next 5
rapperray
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:53 PM ET
Haven't looked past the next 5
- cabin



me either but they just suck....
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:54 PM ET
I don’t know anything about TT’s mental makeup. Is he a guy who’s look at a stint in Rochester as an opportunity?
Or would he see it as a slap in the face, and just go down there and loaf. Then wait to be gifted another year with the big club next season?

- PrinceChill


Don;t know his makeup. some make the best of it . Some don;t even when you expect it .
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:55 PM ET
me either but they just suck....
- rapperray

Lately yes . I agree.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:55 PM ET
Yet we define playmakers by their lack of goals. Jack was crucified on this site when he was averaging over a PPG with a lack of goal scoring even though he set up Skinner for all of his goals.

Im not saying you are wrong Fitz. There are no bad players in the NHL but there are players that are overpaid. It would be nice if Bogo made $2M instead of $5M. It would be nice if Skinner was making $7.5M instead of possibly $9M+. I don't want to lose Skinner but I don't want to overpay him and have that contract be a pain in the arse a few years from now when we actually have the more scoring you are referring to in your post.

- Pegullaville


But Jack is better than JUST a “playmaker”
He has a great shot, and was shooting a ton
So yeah, NATURALLY ppl wanted to see him score more
No one thinks Jack is a 20goal 80assist guy
Those who wanna see him score more,
say so bc he has that ability to do so
Jack should score 35ish goals with 50+ assists

And we ALL would also like Skinner at 8mil (or less)
But that might not be realistic with the way salaries are skyrocketing
And just don’t wanna lose him over 1.0mil

No, we can’t be overpaying 3rd pair defensemen like Bogo

But there are times when u do have to overpay your best players

For most of us,
Skinner is one of those guys we just can’t afford to lose
metzeric
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.06.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:55 PM ET
well our coach likes the checking detail we have
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 12 @ 9:56 PM ET
I have to say, the bills are doing a fine job this offseason
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Mar 12 @ 9:56 PM ET
Is there anyone in Rochester who could’ve improved upon Thompson’s 7-5-12 in 59 games this season?
If so, why weren’t they given a shot?
If not, that’s pretty bleak.
rapperray
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 9:57 PM ET
I have to say, the bills are doing a fine job this offseason
- homiedclown



absolutely
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Mar 12 @ 9:58 PM ET
yeah this is a ruff stretch ....
- gordong

Eh, more of a rolston stretch.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
Size , speed , shot . Needs to get some accuracy and chemistry with the linemates if possible . Might need a few in the AHL if thats possible . He works hard out there, just needs the reason too and the points for it .
- cabin


I don’t see any of that

He’s big, but doesn’t USE his size

He skates ok, FOR HIS SIZE
I don’t think he’s overly fast

And i know he’s supposed to have this great shot
But he misses the damn net so much,
and his release takes forever at times
That might prevent him from ever being a scorer in the NHL where u don’t have as much time & space

I agree he’s shown flashes
But I’ve seen a lot more questions than i do answers with him overall

Hopefully I’m wrong though
It’s definitely baffling that Botts keeps him up here
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:02 PM ET
But Jack is better than JUST a “playmaker”
He has a great shot, and was shooting a ton
So yeah, NATURALLY ppl wanted to see him score more
No one thinks Jack is a 20goal 80assist guy
Those who wanna see him score more,
say so bc he has that ability to do so
Jack should score 35ish goals with 50+ assists

And we ALL would also like Skinner at 8mil (or less)
But that might not be realistic with the way salaries are skyrocketing
And just don’t wanna lose him over 1.0mil

No, we can’t be overpaying 3rd pair defensemen like Bogo

But there are times when u do have to overpay your best players

For most of us,
Skinner is one of those guys we just can’t afford to lose

- jdfitz77


If Skinner does get his big pay day I just hope you are right and he continues to score 35-40 from ages 27-33 or else you can add him to the list of overpaid players the Sabres have signed over the past few years. I’m not saying he’ll decline as much as Okposo or Moulson, but once the goal scoring well dries up, he won’t provide the value we’ll be paying him. The cup contenders this year are maximizing every dollar of cap space they have. That is the trend with every cup winner or cup contender over the past several seasons. I like Skinner, just not at $9M+ when he’s 30 years old for the same reason I was happy we moved on from ROR and that contract. We are 2-3 years away from “contender” status at best.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:04 PM ET

WE traded Kane . replaced his point with ... Skinner ?
Yes/ would have been nice to add to instead of replace

- cabin


Regardless of whether or not we HAD to trade Kane & ROR...

Just “replacing” them and NOT ADDING is
100% EXACTLY what i warned about with our offense this year

And it’s a pretty huge reason why we are where we are
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:07 PM ET
I don’t know anything about TT’s mental makeup. Is he a guy who’s look at a stint in Rochester as an opportunity?
Or would he see it as a slap in the face, and just go down there and loaf. Then wait to be gifted another year with the big club next season?

- PrinceChill


Well if he is the type of guy to loaf,
then we might as well find out
Bc he’s not the type of guy we want around

I do think he’ll be good in Rochester though
Get him down there
Let these guys go on a legit playoffs run
And then we’ll see how he comes back next year
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:08 PM ET
Regardless of whether or not we HAD to trade Kane & ROR...

Just “replacing” them and NOT ADDING is
100% EXACTLY what i warned about with our offense this year

And it’s a pretty huge reason why we are where we are

- jdfitz77


Only excuse I have for this is this was another stealth tank. They added Skinner at the end of the offseason to give the players hope that the team was trying to win this year and gave the fan base and media another thing to chew on. Only to know we weren’t ready just yet and the chips were going to fall where they may.
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