Swap nylander with jo jo or kap?
- Puck-us-all

Hyman JT Marner
Johnsson Matthews Nylander
Marleau Kadri Nylanders replacement next year
4th line

A realist doesn't get a Bonier over a 20 goal scorer who wasn't back checking, wouldn't go into the corners and was invisible in the playoffs. It's early, but we are seeing the reality of the matter come to fruition just like some - not all - the moves of the past that were obviously bad. If you criticize Leaf management it's a hate crime now lol.
- aminnes

What bad moves has dubas done?

What bad moves has dubas done?
- Puck-us-all

Well, he's talking about Nylander at the moment.

Hyman JT Marner
Johnsson Matthews Nylander
Marleau Kadri Nylanders replacement next year
4th line
- Garnie

Kap?

Oh yes it was. He's a bonafide number 1, he was drafted in the first round, blah blah blah. It was hilarious. Same thing happened when they got Phaneuf. Guys just really believe in Leaf management, can't imagine why.
- aminnes

I dont recall many saying he was a bonafide number 1.
I remember people saying (myself included) that he was traded to be the leafs number 1 over reimer and that his stats the first year were better than reimer's.

But I dont recall a love affair.

I recall when his play dropped, most (myself included) wanted both our goalies gone.

I do recall a huge love affair with reimer though.

A realist doesn't get a Bonier over a 20 goal scorer who wasn't back checking, wouldn't go into the corners and was invisible in the playoffs. It's early, but we are seeing the reality of the matter come to fruition just like some - not all - the moves of the past that were obviously bad. If you criticize Leaf management it's a hate crime now lol.
- aminnes

Kap?
- Puck-us-all

That's what I call him every time he breaks away with the puck.

I feel like this might go against the CoC Gull.

I dont recall many saying he was a bonafide number 1.
I remember people saying (myself included) that he was traded to be the leafs number 1 over reimer and that his stats the first year were better than reimer's.

But I dont recall a love affair.

I recall when his play dropped, most (myself included) wanted both our goalies gone.

I do recall a huge love affair with reimer though.
- Fakepartofme

We all loved Reimer for awhile there...he was playing awesome though.

*except all the goals that would go in from shots behind/beside the net

- Dongull_Trump

A realist doesn't get a Bonier over a 20 goal scorer who wasn't back checking, wouldn't go into the corners and was invisible in the playoffs. It's early, but we are seeing the reality of the matter come to fruition just like some - not all - the moves of the past that were obviously bad. If you criticize Leaf management it's a hate crime now lol.
- aminnes

But what "bad things" has leaf management done?

I feel like this might go against the CoC Gull.
- Scabeh

So?

Well, he's talking about Nylander at the moment.
- Garnie

Little early to call that a bad move I would think.. not losing a very young highly skilled guy seems like a win

I feel like this might go against the CoC Gull.
- Scabeh

Use this one instead 🖕🤓🖕

Well, he's talking about Nylander at the moment.
- Garnie

I wasnt impressed with the 7.5 per.
But I later realized it was a 6.9 cap hit.
Only 400g's more than I was hoping for.

So not bad.

So?
- Dongull_Trump

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But what "bad things" has leaf management done?
- Fakepartofme

Apparently nylander is a bad move?

Little early to call that a bad move I would think.. not losing a very young highly skilled guy seems like a win
- Puck-us-all

Nylander has been great for the past 20 games, and has looked good as a center. Give him at least one player better than Marleau/Brown.

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- Scabeh

I edited it. At least the negative female genitalia got the message.

A realist doesn't get a Bonier over a 20 goal scorer who wasn't back checking, wouldn't go into the corners and was invisible in the playoffs. It's early, but we are seeing the reality of the matter come to fruition just like some - not all - the moves of the past that were obviously bad. If you criticize Leaf management it's a hate crime now lol.
- aminnes

I think it's fine to criticize Leaf management as long it's objective, constructive, and educated. There's a lot of hate for Leaf Management based on Dubas' age, or minor deals. People get their nuts in a vice because the backup goalie isn't very good. There is a management team at play, and we can criticize them, but they have been making well educated and well considered moves. Before I jump on the moves, there's usually a good reason for them.

There's nothing wrong with Nylander's contract. He's very young. When he gets mad, he gets more engaged. The same can be said of Matthews. They need to get to that place more and be more engaged. I think they will.

I edited it. At least the negative female genitalia got the message.
- Dongull_Trump

Apparently nylander is a bad move?
- Puck-us-all

Ah.
wait until he sees Marners 9.5 - 10 m per deal for 5 years.

Nylander has been great for the past 20 games, and has looked good as a center. Give him at least one player better than Marleau/Brown.
- Dongull_Trump

Nah, terrible signing he’s obviously not going to be worth his contract because I’ve been to the future .. I also saw Marner sign an offer sheet with the sens

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- Scabeh

Let's go with a firm 'no' on this one.

Nylander is/was a 5 million dollar player, coming off entry with zero leverage. Dubas caved. Matthews also is not worth more than JT, actually less. Cap is (frank)ed going forward. This is the best year in terms of competitiveness so I will enjoy it, because the cap tear down begins in the summer and management did nothing to prepare for it.