Kessel for Bogosian, Thompson, and a 1st (e5)
- Feds91Stammer

Maybe if Tatar was included

So what about where I talked about this year?

You are one of the most stubborn contributors to this community I've ever exchanged with, and dont take that as me wanting you gone or not around or anything, thats not the case. Its just that not only does pretty much every other single person here disagrees with you but also the actual stats arnt on your side either

I just showed a plain as day example that you are absolutely wrong about Phil and Geno and you don't acknowledge it at all.

PS: I can be very stubborn around here too...
- MattStrat

I'm just having some fun. Absolutely right I am being stubborn. It has just been annoying listening to so many people blame all of the Pens woes on a bottom pair defenceman.

Kessel is great at scoring and thats exactly why the Pens got him. But the expectation is that when a player of his caliber is playing with a player of Malkins caliber, they should be able to pick up the players around them.

I'm sure Kessel would be the first to admit he is not playing good right now. It's just odd how everyone here wants to make excuses for him.

JR isn’t that good. Nice try.
- Rinosaur

Okay fair enough. Make the 1st a 3rd instead.

Maybe if Tatar was included
- Guile

Fun fact: on almost every MTL armchair on cap friendly he gets traded away. When will my large adult son finally be appreciated.

Okay fair enough. Make the 1st a 3rd instead.
- Feds91Stammer

Makes more sense.

Makes more sense.
- Rinosaur

So revised deal: Kessel for Thompson a third and a turd.

So revised deal: Kessel for Thompson a third and a turd.
- Feds91Stammer

If JR can get them to throw in that turd you make that trade ten out of ten times.

If JR can get them to throw in that turd you make that trade ten out of ten times.
- Rinosaur

The turd was a former third overall in this case so I agree with you.

Fun fact: on almost every MTL armchair on cap friendly he gets traded away. When will my large adult son finally be appreciated.
- Feds91Stammer

Eh... I think Tatar and Kessel could look good together.

Go and do a non crazy trade that we will shoot down because JR sucks.

Kessel for Bogosian, Thompson, and a 1st (e5)
- Feds91Stammer

Not worth a 3rd overall pick (or any first round pick), but Bogosian, as a bottom-pair defenseman, isn't bad. But when you already have two of them playing in your top-4, then yeah.

If the Penguins are foolish enough to move Kessel this off-season I can't wait for all the Kessel-detractors to cry about the fact JR needs to go out and get a pure sniper for Sid or Geno.

If the Penguins are foolish enough to move Kessel this off-season I can't wait for all the Kessel-detractors to cry about the fact JR needs to go out and get a pure sniper for Sid or Geno.
- Rinosaur

Needs more James Neal

Needs more James Neal
- jmatchett383

I know this is super random, but... I hate when a trade happens and people around here are like "why didn't JR make that trade?!?!" I bring this up because I've kind of been keeping tabs on Chicago. Despite the fact they're losing they're a lot of fun to watch this year.

I look at the Strome/Schmaltz trade. For all his whining, Tanner was dead on about Strome. Dude is a stud and was totally being mishandled by AZ. I look at that trade and wonder if JR had inquired or if not, what would move could they have made for Strome.

I know this is super random, but... I hate when a trade happens and people around here are like "why didn't JR make that trade?!?!" I bring this up because I've kind of been keeping tabs on Chicago. Despite the fact they're losing they're a lot of fun to watch this year.

I look at the Strome/Schmaltz trade. For all his whining, Tanner was dead on about Strome. Dude is a stud and was totally being mishandled by AZ. I look at that trade and wonder if JR had inquired or if not, what would move could they have made for Strome.
- Rinosaur

Given that they sent Schmaltz the other way, this would have been an awesome way to have utilized Conor Sheary in a trade.

Eh... I think Tatar and Kessel could look good together.

Go and do a non crazy trade that we will shoot down because JR sucks.
- Guile

Malkin for Domi and Tatar

Letang and Maatta skating this morning. We're getting there.

(frank) Phil.

Good to see Geno back in form. He has been pretty f'n good since trying to give Raffl a shave.

Given that they sent Schmaltz the other way, this would have been an awesome way to have utilized Conor Sheary in a trade.
- Victoro311

AZ got fleeced. They clearly undervalued Strome and didn't realize what they had in him. You can argue CHI made a nothing trade and it paid off, but yes, I agree. I think the Pens had they still had Sheary could have moved him, possibly even Simon + a high pick or at the most, Rust.

Hindsight is 20/20 so it's easy for me to pick this apart, but AZ did such a good job of driving his value down that he probably wasn't even on many GMs radar.

Letang and Maatta skating this morning. We're getting there.
- Victoro311

Matta is unexpected. I thought he was done for at least the rest of the season. Great news

I know this is super random, but... I hate when a trade happens and people around here are like "why didn't JR make that trade?!?!" I bring this up because I've kind of been keeping tabs on Chicago. Despite the fact they're losing they're a lot of fun to watch this year.

I look at the Strome/Schmaltz trade. For all his whining, Tanner was dead on about Strome. Dude is a stud and was totally being mishandled by AZ. I look at that trade and wonder if JR had inquired or if not, what would move could they have made for Strome.
- Rinosaur

Tanner is generally pretty good in his analysis of players. It is his politics and the forcing of using one metric that can make him annoying.

Matta is unexpected. I thought he was done for at least the rest of the season. Great news
- Thorny87

He probably is. His injury is a shoulder issue. I'm sure at this point it's just working out to keep his stamina going and get his legs back.

Holy (frank), did anyone see that WWE move the Calgary player pulled on the Wild player last night? Fricken crazy. Wasn't expecting to wake up to that.

AZ got fleeced. They clearly undervalued Strome and didn't realize what they had in him. You can argue CHI made a nothing trade and it paid off, but yes, I agree. I think the Pens had they still had Sheary could have moved him, possibly even Simon + a high pick or at the most, Rust.

Hindsight is 20/20 so it's easy for me to pick this apart, but AZ did such a good job of driving his value down that he probably wasn't even on many GMs radar.
- Rinosaur

I don't think fleeced is fair. Schmaltz had 14 in 17 in AZ before getting hurt.

Strome is also riding an ice sh% of 14.4 That is not sustainable

Tanner is generally pretty good in his analysis of players. It is his politics and the forcing of using one metric that can make him annoying.
- Feds91Stammer

Not that I'm unhappy with Bjugstad as 3C, far from it, but the idea of having a young player like Strome who looks to be evolving into a 1C as the Pens 3C and future moving forward? That would have been a great move. Not blaming JR at all. Like I said, I think AZ did a great job of mishandling him and driving his value down.