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scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 24 @ 8:19 PM ET
I openly admit that I was critical of Q and thought it was time for a coaching change. One of my main concerns was the Hawks were playing a reckless defensive game. Q was allowing Samuelsson to run an offensive defensive system which had the D-Men out of position constantly. Whether you agreed with all of Q’s moves or not, one thing that you could depend upon with Q earlier, was that the Hawks would be tough to score against. If there was a bad defensive game it was a guarantee that the team would tighten up a lot with a shut-out or an one goal game. Samuelsson changed all of this.

That I wanted Q to leave did not mean I wanted that move at any cost or that I thought he could be replaced by just anyone. This was especially true for a team that had 5 players on it with numerous Cup wins and Gold Medals. Q’s replacement simply had to be someone with gravitas.

Colliton was the last person that should have been hired. Not only did he not have the gravitas to be a Head Coach in the NHL, he didn’t even have a resume to be named Rockford’s Head Coach. There was no other NHL or AHL team that had any interest in him. The fact that I believed it was time to replace Q does not prevent me from being critcal of his replacement when such replacement does not even have the resume to be an AHL Head Coach.

Colliton was placed on Bowman’s radar by one Swedish Scout - one. There was no huge buzz about a young genius Coach before he was just handed Rockford. Teams were not fighting to hire him. There was one Swedish guy. Colliton coached in the Tier 2 league of Sweden - Tier 2 - where by his own admission Colliton has said you worried about whether your team would even exist week to week. He did not coach in the top Swedish Elite league and not the KHL. Also he had very poor results in 3 of his 4 seasons in the Tier 2 league of Sweden. Consequently, when he was hired in Rockford he was not qualified. When he was hired in Chicago he was even less qualified. Kane has stated the players thought the same - there is no way this has changed.

The Hawks are a total mess under Colliton. The Hawks never have even one good defensive game. His D “system” seems to be to strive for having every D-Man out of position all the time. As a fan it is impossible to envision a game where the Hawks get a shut-out or give up just one goal or even 2 goals - or give up 18 shots or 20 shots or even 25 shots. Colliton’s D “system” gives up scores of shots against and chances against. It is actually ludicrous.

Also dislike his favouring of certain players that has nothing at all to do with performance. His recent treatment of Jokiharju has me really worried. Point to a player, who started the year paired with Keith, and say we are shipping you out as you have lost confidence, when your treatment of him is the very reason for that. Insane. Immature.

So yes I was entitled to criticize Q AND am entitled to criticize Colliton.

- Z3Hawk

Very eloquently stated. Kudos!
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Feb 24 @ 8:37 PM ET
Dude,

ALL the teams in from of the Hawks play multiple times before the Hawks play. Not only are the Hawks 4 points out of a wild card sport, behind 3 other teams, the Blackhawks have the most games played in the conference.

Id sell if possible
AA
Kruger
Kunitz
WARD
Saad (I doubt Bowman would trade Saad because he made such a big deal to get him for the following 2 seasons.)
Gus
Seabrook or Keith if ANY WAY possible.

Any freed up $ and any extra picks will help for next season starting on 7/1

- mrpaulish


Explain the logic of moving Saad? I’m alll ears
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 24 @ 8:43 PM ET
I openly admit that I was critical of Q and thought it was time for a coaching change. One of my main concerns was the Hawks were playing a reckless defensive game. Q was allowing Samuelsson to run an offensive defensive system which had the D-Men out of position constantly. Whether you agreed with all of Q’s moves or not, one thing that you could depend upon with Q earlier, was that the Hawks would be tough to score against. If there was a bad defensive game it was a guarantee that the team would tighten up a lot with a shut-out or an one goal game. Samuelsson changed all of this.

That I wanted Q to leave did not mean I wanted that move at any cost or that I thought he could be replaced by just anyone. This was especially true for a team that had 5 players on it with numerous Cup wins and Gold Medals. Q’s replacement simply had to be someone with gravitas.

Colliton was the last person that should have been hired. Not only did he not have the gravitas to be a Head Coach in the NHL, he didn’t even have a resume to be named Rockford’s Head Coach. There was no other NHL or AHL team that had any interest in him. The fact that I believed it was time to replace Q does not prevent me from being critcal of his replacement when such replacement does not even have the resume to be an AHL Head Coach.

Colliton was placed on Bowman’s radar by one Swedish Scout - one. There was no huge buzz about a young genius Coach before he was just handed Rockford. Teams were not fighting to hire him. There was one Swedish guy. Colliton coached in the Tier 2 league of Sweden - Tier 2 - where by his own admission Colliton has said you worried about whether your team would even exist week to week. He did not coach in the top Swedish Elite league and not the KHL. Also he had very poor results in 3 of his 4 seasons in the Tier 2 league of Sweden. Consequently, when he was hired in Rockford he was not qualified. When he was hired in Chicago he was even less qualified. Kane has stated the players thought the same - there is no way this has changed.

The Hawks are a total mess under Colliton. The Hawks never have even one good defensive game. His D “system” seems to be to strive for having every D-Man out of position all the time. As a fan it is impossible to envision a game where the Hawks get a shut-out or give up just one goal or even 2 goals - or give up 18 shots or 20 shots or even 25 shots. Colliton’s D “system” gives up scores of shots against and chances against. It is actually ludicrous.

Also dislike his favouring of certain players that has nothing at all to do with performance. His recent treatment of Jokiharju has me really worried. Point to a player, who started the year paired with Keith, and say we are shipping you out as you have lost confidence, when your treatment of him is the very reason for that. Insane. Immature.

So yes I was entitled to criticize Q AND am entitled to criticize Colliton.

- Z3Hawk


kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 8:44 PM ET
Explain the logic of moving Saad? I’m alll ears
- Colbyboy


There is NO logic, unless you can get a <26 year old Top Pairing D-man.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 24 @ 8:48 PM ET
There is NO logic, unless you can get a <26 year old Top Pairing D-man.
- kwolf68


Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 8:51 PM ET
Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer.
- mohel


Then Saad stays in Chicago.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:10 PM ET
Had family obligation today, caught the last few minutes without sound.

Saad ices the puck near end of game 5 pages of Trade Saad.

Another tough loss. Makes playoffs a longer shot.

Proud of teams effort last 2 games. Outplayed both opponents for much of games.

Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Feb 24 @ 9:22 PM ET
Then Saad stays in Chicago.
- kwolf68


Clearly- he stays
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 24 @ 9:25 PM ET
Very eloquently stated. Kudos!
- scottak

No.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Feb 24 @ 9:40 PM ET
Had family obligation today, caught the last few minutes without sound.

Saad ices the puck near end of game 5 pages of Trade Saad.

Another tough loss. Makes playoffs a longer shot.

Proud of teams effort last 2 games. Outplayed both opponents for much of games.

- TrueGrit


Wasn't thinking of today when I brought it up earlier. His current role doesn't seem befitting of a $6 mill cap hit. I would think $6 mill could be allocated better. We certainly didn't think he was worth this cap hit when he was dealt to Columbus. I don't see the uptick in his game since 2015. If he is worthy of being 1LW, then he should go to that line. And there was no shortage of people calling for him to be dealt when he had a slow starr this year. And last year, forget it. If they can sell high, then do it.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:14 PM ET
No.
- Ogilthorpe2


Agreed
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 24 @ 10:22 PM ET
No.
- Ogilthorpe2

Brilliant retort! You’ve convinced me. Young Jeremy is the next coming of Punch Imlach. Better days are just around the corner!

His personal pet, Gustafsson, will play 28 minutes a night, score 50 goals, but still have a negative Corsi. Kane will take to IV fluids between shifts as JC triple shifts him. JC will bring a few of his Mora defensemen over to shore up the backend.

#InJeremyWeTrust
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:27 PM ET
Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer.
- mohel


This is the only way Saad gets moved, even then i think the Hawks would rather keep him and pursue a defensive d-man via free agency.

Thinking along the trade scenario, the idea I’ve heard most often is Saad for Hamilton and I’m not sure how I feel about that.
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

Feb 24 @ 10:30 PM ET
This is the only way Saad gets moved, even then i think the Hawks would rather keep him and pursue a defensive d-man via free agency.

Thinking along the trade scenario, the idea I’ve heard most often is Saad for Hamilton and I’m not sure how I feel about that.

- DarthKane


But we'd gain $250,000 in glorious cap space for the next (2) years!

Source: capfriendly.com
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:33 PM ET
But we'd gain $250,000 in glorious cap space for the next (2) years!

Source: capfriendly.com

- Slofire94



Great point, pull the trigger Stan!

I know Saad hasn’t lived up to expectations since returning to Chicago but I’m still a fan of his overall game. I’d rather see Saad stay with the team.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 24 @ 10:44 PM ET
Brilliant retort! You’ve convinced me. Young Jeremy is the next coming of Punch Imlach. Better days are just around the corner!

His personal pet, Gustafsson, will play 28 minutes a night, score 50 goals, but still have a negative Corsi. Kane will take to IV fluids between shifts as JC triple shifts him. JC will bring a few of his Mora defensemen over to shore up the backend.

#InJeremyWeTrust

- scottak

No?
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
I openly admit that I was critical of Q and thought it was time for a coaching change. One of my main concerns was the Hawks were playing a reckless defensive game. Q was allowing Samuelsson to run an offensive defensive system which had the D-Men out of position constantly. Whether you agreed with all of Q’s moves or not, one thing that you could depend upon with Q earlier, was that the Hawks would be tough to score against. If there was a bad defensive game it was a guarantee that the team would tighten up a lot with a shut-out or an one goal game. Samuelsson changed all of this.

That I wanted Q to leave did not mean I wanted that move at any cost or that I thought he could be replaced by just anyone. This was especially true for a team that had 5 players on it with numerous Cup wins and Gold Medals. Q’s replacement simply had to be someone with gravitas.

Colliton was the last person that should have been hired. Not only did he not have the gravitas to be a Head Coach in the NHL, he didn’t even have a resume to be named Rockford’s Head Coach. There was no other NHL or AHL team that had any interest in him. The fact that I believed it was time to replace Q does not prevent me from being critcal of his replacement when such replacement does not even have the resume to be an AHL Head Coach.

Colliton was placed on Bowman’s radar by one Swedish Scout - one. There was no huge buzz about a young genius Coach before he was just handed Rockford. Teams were not fighting to hire him. There was one Swedish guy. Colliton coached in the Tier 2 league of Sweden - Tier 2 - where by his own admission Colliton has said you worried about whether your team would even exist week to week. He did not coach in the top Swedish Elite league and not the KHL. Also he had very poor results in 3 of his 4 seasons in the Tier 2 league of Sweden. Consequently, when he was hired in Rockford he was not qualified. When he was hired in Chicago he was even less qualified. Kane has stated the players thought the same - there is no way this has changed.

The Hawks are a total mess under Colliton. The Hawks never have even one good defensive game. His D “system” seems to be to strive for having every D-Man out of position all the time. As a fan it is impossible to envision a game where the Hawks get a shut-out or give up just one goal or even 2 goals - or give up 18 shots or 20 shots or even 25 shots. Colliton’s D “system” gives up scores of shots against and chances against. It is actually ludicrous.

Also dislike his favouring of certain players that has nothing at all to do with performance. His recent treatment of Jokiharju has me really worried. Point to a player, who started the year paired with Keith, and say we are shipping you out as you have lost confidence, when your treatment of him is the very reason for that. Insane. Immature.

So yes I was entitled to criticize Q AND am entitled to criticize Colliton.

- Z3Hawk


One Swedish Scout - 1

Who just happened to be Mats Hallin, the Blackhawks' director of European scouting.

On the bright side I guess we have progressed from crazy talk about his only experience was Swedish beer league coaching! Hallin’s take on the series that got Mora promoted to the top Swedish league.

"In that series, Jeremy outcoached Leksand. He outsmarted them," Hallin said. "Some Swedish coaches, they play the four lines, and they keep going -- they like to trust their players. This guy, he just mixed it up a little bit more. It was interesting for everybody here because not often do you see that from a North American coach."
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 24 @ 10:54 PM ET
funny the difference a couple losses make when you are part of a big blob of average to below average teams fighting for a WC spot...ya go from tied to 5 pts back...

the hawks have had their big win streak...now its time finish it out if they continue to score and end around 80 pts...
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:54 PM ET
Brilliant retort! You’ve convinced me. Young Jeremy is the next coming of Punch Imlach. Better days are just around the corner!

His personal pet, Gustafsson, will play 28 minutes a night, score 50 goals, but still have a negative Corsi. Kane will take to IV fluids between shifts as JC triple shifts him. JC will bring a few of his Mora defensemen over to shore up the backend.

#InJeremyWeTrust

- scottak


Either u r being sarcastic or u just do not get it.

It does no good to sit an asset. He may be worth more later on, or maybe his zenith is now. The defense is bad enough so you could argue he makes it worse. But he offers so much offensively. I do not know if you read the post about how brilliant vs how failing he can be - the post used hockey IQ as a measuring stick.

A coach uses the players at his disposal. So whom plays instead. Dahlstrom. No one from Rockford reportedly (according to some posts and other.sources) is ready.

Gustafson certainly has drawn attention. Enough to have warranted a trade proposal. Which could lead to his departure and your gleeful Toyota jump for joy (or it could be a Ron Santo clicking heels). Maybe even Phoenix would call if Stan offered a better deal than Gostisbehere pricetag.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:55 PM ET
Great point, pull the trigger Stan!

I know Saad hasn’t lived up to expectations since returning to Chicago but I’m still a fan of his overall game. I’d rather see Saad stay with the team.

- DarthKane


Exactly.
GlennL
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Grayslake, IL
Joined: 03.02.2016

Feb 24 @ 10:56 PM ET
There is NO logic, unless you can get a <26 year old Top Pairing D-man.
- kwolf68

How I miss Hossa, such a complete player both ends of the ice.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:56 PM ET
Imo, you're not going to get a Top Pair D-Man under 26 for anything the Hawk could reasonable offer.
- mohel


That is very logical conclusion
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 24 @ 11:03 PM ET
How I miss Hossa, such a complete player both ends of the ice.
- GlennL


There are too many forwards like Hosea, we were lucky to have him on the team. I hope when his contract is up he finds a role on the team.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 11:27 PM ET
Strickland:

#sjsharks⁠ ⁠ appear to be front runner to land Red Wings Gustav Nyquist. #LGRW⁠ ⁠
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 25 @ 12:15 AM ET
Strickland:

#sjsharks⁠ ⁠ appear to be front runner to land Red Wings Gustav Nyquist. #LGRW⁠ ⁠

- mrpaulish


For a 2nd and conditional 3rd with Detroit retaining 30%.
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