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mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
Get with the program - everything that was good was because of Dale; everything bad was because of Stan. Yes, I know it is more likely that each had hits and misses, but don't tell anyone.
- mohel


Cool ! Im in !

Anyways AA (Stans faul) looks disinterested.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Get with the program - everything that was good was because of Dale; everything bad was because of Stan. Yes, I know it is more likely that each had hits and misses, but don't tell anyone.
- mohel


You are doing exactly what you claim the "Dale fans" are doing, making up poop that's not right to advance a pro Bowman narrative.

Tallon (and others) built the core of the Cup champions. He DID want Hossa, but offered Havlat a 1 year deal in an attempt to sign him as well. Tallon also made some great moves such as trading for Sharp. He however overpaid for some guys. He also screwed up with goalies a bit, but the previous GM had Crow in the system so that helped.

Bowman added to the team over the years to help maintain a level of excellence. Getting Oduya, Saad, Shaw, Vermette were key pieces to go with the core that was gifted to him.

MULTIPLE GMs are responsible for the success of the Hawks.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Feb 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Hawks gotta get rid of Murphy and Sikura

Maybe to the NYR for chubby Shattenkirk
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
100% wrong on Hossa.

Dale wanted Havlat back. Dale didnt want Hossa . The Bowmans won that argument. Regardless of who the GM was when the ink dried

- mrpaulish

I thought tallon wanted both hossa long term and havlat on one year contract. Tallon 1 cup bowman 2 cups
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Feb 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
Hawks gotta get rid of Murphy and Sikura

Maybe to the NYR for chubby Shattenkirk

- PatShart


Sikura and Perlini are both a waste of space. Who replaces Murphy though? Brady Skej???
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Feb 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
Then that explains it.
- kwolf68


Foley just called Caggiula Jamie Benn. ...and he's not even suited today.
Dohhhhhhh !! Same number.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
Get with the program - everything that was good was because of Dale; everything bad was because of Stan. Yes, I know it is more likely that each had hits and misses, but don't tell anyone.
- mohel


Nuance is hard... makes me have to think. I like simple narratives regardless of what the facts may support.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
I thought tallon wanted both hossa long term and havlat on one year contract. Tallon 1 cup bowman 2 cups
- Scott1977


This is EXACTLY what he wanted.

The idea that Bowman "won some argument" for Hossa is absolute fabricated crap.

Tallon was all over Hossa the moment he hit free agency.

I dont mind supporting Bowman (or Smith or Tallon) but at least be (frank)ing honest about what happened. All 3 GMs did well for the Hawks, on various levels. That's where the debate maybe resides.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Feb 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
Sikura and Perlini are both a waste of space. Who replaces Murphy though? Brady Skej???
- EnzoD


Who ever they can get for those 2

Stan has to get them away from JC so he has to stop playing them
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Feb 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
Cool ! Im in !

Anyways AA (Stans faul) looks disinterested.

- mrpaulish


Something's must be wrong with my tv because AA and Seabrook are barely moving on my screen.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Feb 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
Man, our washed up 3rd line quality captain is sure looking dangerous pretty much each shift. Caggiula really fitting in well, pretty similar to Shaw (maybe not as pesty) but his willingness to go and battle is good.

I recall the broadcast mentioning Keith using one of Gustafsson's sticks for the last 6 games or so...it is working for him on the score-sheet.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
Man, our washed up 3rd line quality captain is sure looking dangerous pretty much each shift. Caggiula really fitting in well, pretty similar to Shaw (maybe not as pesty) but his willingness to go and battle is good.

I recall the broadcast mentioning Keith using one of Gustafsson's sticks for the last 6 games or so...it is working for him on the score-sheet.

- breadbag



Caggiula has been outstanding for this team, period.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
Alright, so what are we thinking ?

Showtime shows up with a 3rd period hatty ??
Colbyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 12.14.2013

Feb 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
Speaking of Sticks
When Brian Burke ran his first NHL team the stick budget was $10,000

Last year in Toronto it was $600,000
Amazing
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
I thought tallon wanted both hossa long term and havlat on one year contract. Tallon 1 cup bowman 2 cups
- Scott1977

Tallon AND Bowman (AND Smith) - 3 Cups.

It’s not a zero-sum game.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
Alright, so what are we thinking ?

Showtime shows up with a 3rd period hatty ??

- mrpaulish



Not sure why, but I feel good about the 3rd. The team was smoking in that 2nd period.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:57 PM ET
Something's must be wrong with my tv because AA and Seabrook are barely moving on my screen.
- Hawkytalk



Thats the same as disinterested
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
Not sure why, but I feel good about the 3rd. The team was smoking in that 2nd period.
- kwolf68



Me too.

Kane going to have to Kane and Toews has to be fuming from missing that semi breakaway. Lets see
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Feb 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
Caggiula has been outstanding for this team, period.
- kwolf68


Another terrible Bowman trade.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 24 @ 4:59 PM ET
You are doing exactly what you claim the "Dale fans" are doing, making up poop that's not right to advance a pro Bowman narrative.

Tallon (and others) built the core of the Cup champions. He DID want Hossa, but offered Havlat a 1 year deal in an attempt to sign him as well. Tallon also made some great moves such as trading for Sharp. He however overpaid for some guys. He also screwed up with goalies a bit, but the previous GM had Crow in the system so that helped.

Bowman added to the team over the years to help maintain a level of excellence. Getting Oduya, Saad, Shaw, Vermette were key pieces to go with the core that was gifted to him.

MULTIPLE GMs are responsible for the success of the Hawks.

- kwolf68


Wolfie, c'mon, you couldn't tell I was going over the top with the sarcasm? The idea was to highlight that multiple GM's, including Stan have done a lot of good things over the years. And that there's no perfect GM - except for those on this here board!
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 5:01 PM ET
Wolfie, c'mon, you couldn't tell I was going over the top with the sarcasm? The idea was to highlight that multiple GM's, including Stan have done a lot of good things over the years. And that there's no perfect GM - except for those on this here board!
- mohel


Fair enough. The sarcasm is hard to read sometimes, because there are 3 or 4 who it's part of their shtick. LOL.

I think we agree. Though what Bowman does from here on out will really help cement his legacy as a top GM. He was good from 2010 to 2014, then awful from 2015 to early 2018, but his last 3 trades have been good ones.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 5:03 PM ET

HUGE 3rd period coming up. Lets get it done.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
Hawks gotta get rid of Murphy and Sikura

Maybe to the NYR for chubby Shattenkirk

- PatShart

Big no so get rid of youth for an older player who is injury prone and inconsistent. Does not make sense.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 24 @ 5:05 PM ET
Fair enough. The sarcasm is hard to read sometimes, because there are 3 or 4 who it's part of their shtick. LOL.

I think we agree. Though what Bowman does from here on out will really help cement his legacy as a top GM. He was good from 2010 to 2014, then awful from 2015 to early 2018, but his last 3 trades have been good ones.

- kwolf68


Yep, we'll see.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
Hmmm

Zuccarello not our for start of third after blocking shot. Both he and Benn out. DAL up 3-2 over CHI
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