Maybe just a touch naive:

Michael Corleone: My father is no different than any powerful man, any man with power, like a president or senator.

Kay Adams: Do you know how naive you sound, Michael? Presidents and senators don’t have men killed!

Michael: Oh. Who’s being naive, Kay?
- walleyeb1

While I love a good Godfather reference, you still present no evidence to the contrary.

Please educate me on how I misinterpreted my examples? Help me put into context Q's documented tantrum walking out of draft etc...?

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics explaining how these items not only disprove my theory, but rather actually support yours.

To borrow a quote from another, there likely is more of a chance Tortarella sends Duclair a (holiday) card than Q sending one to SB.

[quote=Taylorst1]
What you should be doing instead of posting on this board is acting as a consultant to the Blackhawks with the express purpose of instructing Colliton on the errors of his ways in playing Duncan Keith 25-26 minutes and 30+ shifts each game. Clearly that is taking valuable ice time away from Gustafsson who puts up points.

Rumor has it the 49ers will put the franchise tag on Gould preventing him from signing elsewhere.
- boilermaker100

That's pretty sad a team putting a franchise tag on a kicker, hahaha, and Pace is the bad GM

I keep reading that Carolina is looking for C scoring depth, AND they have a plethora of solid D-men. This is a perfect give and get for both teams looking to upgrade this season and next.

Anisimov(Please waive) + Forsling for Brett Pesce.


Pesce isn't an offensive dynamo but he's very good in his own end and can move the puck around a bit. This is exactly the type of D-man the Blackhawks need.
- Bjm84

Im just happy the Hawks aren't buyers so far.

My worry is July 1st and the Hawks going after Karlsson.

I think Keith is still our #1 and probably a #2/3 for the next ~2 years. I bet he will play better once he has some motivation to do so! I wouldn't move him unless I got a massive return (which isn't going to happen). We really don't need production from him since our Forwards + Gus have been lighting it up.

Stan has made some good trades this year and is actually positioning the team quite well. Joki will be playing with the team next year as the #1. Boquist will come up in 2 years and hopefully be our #2/3. Strome + Cat will resign for around 6x6 (a little bit more or less). Kane will be kane and hopefully Toews continues his resurgence.

We just need a defensemen and I'm sure Stan is actively searching. Another option could be Jacob Trouba. It would probably cost us a lot though. Would you give up Boquist?! Something to consider.
- RedRevenge

Trouba would be fantastic, but again your looking at a salary of 8 plus million and then having 28 million tied up in your defense


That means no ability at all to fix your forwards by at least at minimum trying to find a solid top 6 guy or even someone in the top 9 range.

Exactly. The handling of Joki - including ice time - is part of an organizational plan. He was called up for that game on an emergency basis and was sent right back down. It is obvious that they - the organization - feel the Rock is the best place for him.
- mohel

The eye test and stats do not concur.

I like kap a lot more and i do agree . Nylander would be risky. Who then would you look to that is young and would slot in as a solid 2c or 3c without over paying?
- Taylorst1

They have a 2c.strome as of now Anisimov is the 3 c. What else ya got?

I like the sounds of this trade. Even if it would take Chicago to eat 1M per year on AA's contract to make it happen.
- scott.jackson

As much as a lot of us want to off load Anisimov, I think it's going to take more than him and Forsling to obtain Pesce. It might have to be Sadd, but that will mean the loss of a solid forward who plays some defense.

Who then does Chicago target and at what cost? Keith and Seabrook are locked up for 4 and 5 more years at 12 million. Now if the new CBA happens and they could be bought out that's perfect.

But Chicago does need help in their bottom 6 and will need a young solid 2 or 3c .remember toews has maybe 2 more solid years left we hope.
- Taylorst1

There will only be compliance buy outs if the cap goes down. That's why it happened the last time. Many teams were over the new cap and were allowed two buyouts to get compliant. Not likely gonna happen this time.

[quote=RickJ]


Sure Gustafson has had some awful breakdowns defensively , his upside again he is in the top 5 in defenseman scoring and that can't be overlooked. He has played with Keith and Seabrook and murphy , we all jump on Gustafson for his mistakes , but we give Keith, Seabrook and murphy passes ?

You can't have it both ways, and say this defense is awful and we should bring the same defense back , then say Keith is a number 1 guy and we need him ?

Keith is apart of this defense as well and his play and defense has n suspect as well.

There will only be compliance buy outs if the cap goes down. That's why it happened the last time. Many teams were over the new cap and were allowed two buyouts to get compliant. Not likely gonna happen this time.
- GPHawksfan

Did not know that. Thank you for that solid piece of information

[quote=Taylorst1]
How come you are posting as Taylorst1 today and not Z3?

He could be...but why do the Hawks want him? What hole does he fill? I'm not aware of him being a great 2 way fwd. If the Hawks were to trade for him it almost guarantees someone like Saad needs to go at some point and I'd rather keep Saad.
- HawkintheD

Just because Toronto has an extra top center and is up against the salary cap does not mean automatically they are interested in someone else's whom is conveniently available per some fan or some sportswriter's imagination.

In fact if the Taylor post had researched this per hockey history or could look back at teams over his lifetime, Taylor post would notice Toronto just like any team with an extra player who is pretty good at center.....they are certain to spend very little on the other aka 4th center. AA makes too much money. They may or may not retain each of their centericemen. Even if one is moved, they di not want AA

Taylor your thinking is akin to what i would have suggested 25 years ago. I bet most trades involve a lot of thinking and GM's also look at the big picture down the road. So let us say they took on a fairly substantial contract at another position. It could force another transaction. Toronto does have a couple of nice dman prospects. Maybe you even thought out much of this. Whatever......i doubt Toronto wants AA

[quote=GPHawksfan]
Who the heck is z3? I'm posting on my account as I always do.

Just because Toronto has an extra top center, does not mean automatically they are interested in someone else's whom is conveniently available per some fan or some sportswriter's imagination.

In fact if the Taylor post had researched this per hockey history or could look back at teams over his lifetime, Taylor post would notice Toronto just like any team with an extra player who is pretty good at center.....they are certain to spend very little on the other aka 4th center. AA makes too much money.

Taylor your thinking is akin to what i would have suggested 25 years ago. I bet most trades involve a lot of thinking and GM's also look at the big picture down the road. So let us say they took on a fairly substantial contract at another position. It could force another transaction. Toronto does have a couple of nice dman prospects. Maybe you even thought out much of this. Whatever......i doubt Toronto wants AA
- jhawk59

AA to the Canes with a D coming back....

As much as a lot of us want to off load Anisimov, I think it's going to take more than him and Forsling to obtain Pesce. It might have to be Sadd, but that will mean the loss of a solid forward who plays some defense.
- boilermaker100

No way, that would be a massive overpay.

Carolina NEEDS scoring depth. If they throw AA on a line with TT then you're getting more out of him similar to what he did with Kane/Panarin. His defensive game has always been solid.

Let's also add that Pesce does not score a lot.

Hey Tyler -
Do you think the Hawks make a run at a guy like JT Compher in the off season? He'd bring solid depth scoring, two way play, and has been good at the dot this year. He's also from Northbrook(hometown discount?). 3 years at 3 million per?

No way, that would be a massive overpay.

Carolina NEEDS scoring depth. If they throw AA on a line with TT then you're getting more out of him similar to what he did with Kane/Panarin. His defensive game has always been solid.

Let's also add that Pesce does not score a lot.
- Bjm84

Look over the Carolina roster carefully. Thry have a lot of iffensive capable players. Do they want AA?

Hey Tyler -
Do you think the Hawks make a run at a guy like JT Compher in the off season? He'd bring solid depth scoring, two way play, and has been good at the dot this year. He's also from Northbrook(hometown discount?). 3 years at 3 million per?
- Bjm84

Colorado has top offensive players and may want to secure Compher as secondary scoring. Compher was a big colleguate scorer if i recall. I do not know how good he might become nhl.

[quote=Taylorst1]
The Penguins lost their top 2 Dmen to injury last night. Now's your chance to dump Duncan Keith and eliminate the salary cap issue his contract presents. Gus can take over and play 30 minutes per game.

He does play center and it's true he received his deal and hasn't been playing to the level.

Who out their either via trade or free agency could Chicago target to improve that 2c or 3c slot young player ? That would be reasonable and impactful?

Saad wouldn't necessarily have to go. The new CBA would be coming up and then stan could buyout k3ith and Seabrook which I think we all believe Stan will do. Thatsm12million free
- Taylorst1

More Land of Make Believe stuff. Why do you think there will be two - or any - compliance buyouts next CBA? As a GM, do you think it is wise to rely on the possibility of compliance buyouts before knowing they will be there?

Is this board evolving from the Board of Doom to the Board of Fairy Tales?

Although I favor keeping Gus, how much would the Pens give up now for an affordable offensive defenceman? Especially if Letang is out for a while. They are in a dog fight for a wild card spot and are a "win now" team.

While I love a good Godfather reference, you still present no evidence to the contrary.

Please educate me on how I misinterpreted my examples? Help me put into context Q's documented tantrum walking out of draft etc...?

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics explaining how these items not only disprove my theory, but rather actually support yours.

To borrow a quote from another, there likely is more of a chance Tortarella sends Duclair a (holiday) card than Q sending one to SB.
- TrueGrit

Actually I was agreeing with your comment. Just thought naive was the more appropriate term, delusional seems a bit harsh.

“The main point you brought up, which is valid and takes nothing away from Q or what has been accomplished, is that Q and SB clearly not on same page. There is no arguing that.

Anyone disagreeing with that is DELUSIONAL”

Although I favor keeping Gus, how much would the Pens give up now for an affordable offensive defenceman? Especially if Letang is out for a while. They are in a dog fight for a wild card spot and are a "win now" team.
- 67hawks

Gust to pitt for1st and simon

While I love a good Godfather reference, you still present no evidence to the contrary.

Please educate me on how I misinterpreted my examples? Help me put into context Q's documented tantrum walking out of draft etc...?

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics explaining how these items not only disprove my theory, but rather actually support yours.

To borrow a quote from another, there likely is more of a chance Tortarella sends Duclair a (holiday) card than Q sending one to SB.
- TrueGrit

Couple things... 1.) Did Q "storm out if the draft room"? Or did he "walk out of the draft room" for some reason other than anger? 2.) Also, if he did storm out of the room in anger, does one incident mean that there was a long-term rift between the Bowmans and Q? Or does it mean a few competitive people had a disagreement that blew over quickly? For each of these scenarios, please show your work.

Also regarding the rift...allegedly the Bowmans are the ones who originally brought in Q, gave him awesome talent, and allowed him to cement himself as a legend. I can see why Q hates them....