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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:22 PM ET
No way, this is year 2. Almost 3 if you count Stepan as the first domino to go
- Slimtj100

Not year 3.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:23 PM ET
Little mouthy, no?
- tomburton99



You would be the pro on "Mouthy"
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:23 PM ET
No way, this is year 2. Almost 3 if you count Stepan as the first domino to go
- Slimtj100


You have to go by when they stopped competing, that was definitely at the TDL last year
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:25 PM ET
You have to go by when they stopped competing, that was definitely at the TDL last year
- mdw7413

I’m going by getting top 10 picks via deals. That happen with Stepan. There is no way in hell this org says this is yr one of the rebuild, no chance in hell of that
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Feb 21 @ 2:26 PM ET
I’m going by getting top 10 picks via deals. That happen with Stepan. There is no way in hell this org says this is yr one of the rebuild, no chance in hell of that
- Slimtj100

the letter came out a year ago. This is year 1.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:26 PM ET
I’m going by getting top 10 picks via deals. That happen with Stepan. There is no way in hell this org says this is yr one of the rebuild, no chance in hell of that
- Slimtj100

I'll say year 2. I'll agree there.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:28 PM ET
You would be the pro on "Mouthy"
- JRR1285

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:29 PM ET
I'll say year 2. I'll agree there.
- tomburton99

“Rebuilding on the fly” was the term used, that tells me it started with Stepan. That may have not been said til last year, with the letter and all, but the ball started rolling with Stepan trade.

I also say they try and contend next year because of rebuilding on the fly thing. They just need to get Hughes and seal it as finished
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:30 PM ET
“Rebuilding on the fly” was the term used, that tells me it started with Stepan. That may have not been said til last year, with the letter and all, but the ball started rolling with Stepan trade.

I also say they contend because of rebuilding on the fly. They just need to get Hughes and seal it as finished

- Slimtj100

Yeah but that came after he was traded. So this is year 2. 3 years ago they Montreal and Ottawa in the playoffs. They traded for and paid Smith. Rebuilding teams don't do that,
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
I'll say year 2. I'll agree there.
- tomburton99


If I had to choose one or the other, I'd say year 2. They still did want to compete though, so I'm not quite sure you can 100% count last season. If you start it the moment you traded a person for youth, you could almost make the argument that it would have started with Brass being traded for Zib, but that would be 100% false. I'm not sure just because we traded Stepan, it started there either, but it sure helps that we made that move when we did.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
@Aportzline
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If Nashville lands Matt Duchene from Ottawa, expect Winnipeg to make a major push for #CBJ Artemi Panarin. #GoJetsGo would hate to part with him, but possible Columbus native Jack Roslovic could be part of the return package to Blue Jackets.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
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Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:37 PM ET
Yeah but that came after he was traded. So this is year 2. 3 years ago they Montreal and Ottawa in the playoffs. They traded for and paid Smith. Rebuilding teams don't do that,
- tomburton99

I meant after the season ended tho, like they took one more shot before that (by adding Smith). They said themselves let’s start a rebuild that summer, Stepan was traded in yr one of it..Nash Mac in yr two...now these guys in yr 3...I’ll give you that’s its the second yr, reluctantly lol, but no way is this yr one
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:38 PM ET
I meant after the season ended tho, like they took one more shot before that (by adding Smith). They said themselves let’s start a rebuild that summer, Stepan was traded in yr one of it..Nash Mac in yr two...now these guys in yr 3...I’ll give you that’s its the second yr, reluctantly lol, but no way is this yr one
- Slimtj100

No Tj. Derek Stepan was a Ranger in 2016-2017. It can't be year 3 man. It's just not possible. Stepan has only been a Yote 2 years.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
@Not_Tim_Burton
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Replying to @chrismpeters
Who should the #NYR draft if they stay in this 8-12 range?




@chrismpeters
1m1 minute ago
More Chris Peters Retweeted Not Tim Burton
In my mock draft (shameless plug: http://www.espn.com/nhl/i...-all-31-picks-first-round …) I had them taking Alex Turcotte -- another center, which I know they have a lot of, but I think he has some high-end hockey sense. Peyton Krebs or Matthew Boldy could be there in that range as well.


Woof. Get to the bottom quicker.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:47 PM ET
@Not_Tim_Burton
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Replying to @chrismpeters
Who should the #NYR draft if they stay in this 8-12 range?




@chrismpeters
1m1 minute ago
More Chris Peters Retweeted Not Tim Burton
In my mock draft (shameless plug: http://www.espn.com/nhl/i...-all-31-picks-first-round …) I had them taking Alex Turcotte -- another center, which I know they have a lot of, but I think he has some high-end hockey sense. Peyton Krebs or Matthew Boldy could be there in that range as well.


Woof. Get to the bottom quicker.

- tomburton99


If they don't win the lottery and draft either Hughes or Kakko I will find you and I will kill you.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:50 PM ET
I meant after the season ended tho, like they took one more shot before that (by adding Smith). They said themselves let’s start a rebuild that summer, Stepan was traded in yr one of it..Nash Mac in yr two...now these guys in yr 3...I’ll give you that’s its the second yr, reluctantly lol, but no way is this yr one
- Slimtj100


Just cause someone gets traded doesn't mean its a rebuild. Stepan got traded for a way better option. That has nothing to do with a rebuild.


Plus you crap in buckets....
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:51 PM ET
If they don't win the lottery and draft either Hughes or Kakko I will find you and I will kill you.
- JRR1285

Listen. Plenty of other good players besides them. Broberg, Podkolzin, Zegras, Cozens, Kaliyev, Suzuki and Byram etc. Boldy is ok. Turcotte and Krebs are not ideal.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
Just cause someone gets traded doesn't mean its a rebuild. Stepan got traded for a way better option. That has nothing to do with a rebuild.


Plus you crap in buckets....

- mdw7413

Way better?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
Just cause someone gets traded doesn't mean its a rebuild. Stepan got traded for a way better option. That has nothing to do with a rebuild.


Plus you crap in buckets....

- mdw7413


mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:53 PM ET
Way better?
- tomburton99


If you look at contract, age, and potential, I would say yes
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
If you look at contract, age, and potential, I would say yes
- mdw7413

Lias Andersson is projected to be 2nd or 3rd line center, on the high end. Idk if can be "way better".
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:54 PM ET
Just cause someone gets traded doesn't mean its a rebuild. Stepan got traded for a way better option. That has nothing to do with a rebuild.


Plus you crap in buckets....

- mdw7413



This is literally the most important part.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
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Feb 21 @ 2:55 PM ET
Lias Andersson is projected to be 2nd or 3rd line center, on the high end. Idk if can be "way better".
- tomburton99


Points wise, probably not. I'm saying "option" in the sense of how the team is going forward from that trade.

You can't think Keeping Step and if we still had him would be a better option?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 2:56 PM ET
This is literally the most important part.
- JRR1285


It's the debate winner, shuts it down pronto.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:57 PM ET
Points wise, probably not. I'm saying "option" in the sense of how the team is going forward from that trade.

You can't think Keeping Step and if we still had him would be a better option?

- mdw7413

No we moved at the perfect time for that contract. But even Jimbo, who has been Team Lias since he was drafted is now a little concerned he might not pan out. So it can't be "Way better."
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