The NHL PR twitter account sure sends out some "who gives a frank" stat tweets
- Scoob

That 19 year old intern has to have something to do.

How about a correlation of face-off wins to short handed goals?
- jmatchett383

lol

That 19 year old intern has to have something to do.
- johndewar

That's fine, but for franks sake, put out interesting and meaningful info.

That's fine, but for franks sake, put out interesting and meaningful info.
- Scoob

Just have a Chris Pronger quote of the day.

Just have a Chris Pronger quote of the day.
- jmatchett383

lol - see, now that is the kind of thinking they need over there

Our old friend Oliver Lauridsen from WAY DOWN TOWN:

https://twitter.com/khl_e...tatus/1098606521188040705

1) Flyers top nine is fine, although they could use another second-line caliber center so that they can move Giroux back to LW again while still keeping Patrick in favorable matchups.

2) Yes, Gudas has been the most consistent and has had a good year. Doesn't make him the BEST defenseman on the team, just the one who has hit the fewest bumps in road/ slumps this year. Provorov is still the team's best D. Sanheim is fast-rising. Ghost has had a rough season (and 2nd season) but was excellent his rookie and 3rd years. Hägg is fairly solid in his role, just so long as he's not overextended.

3) "Can use an infusion of young talent." ... Patrick, Konecny, Provorov, Lindblom, Sanheim, Hart, now Myers in the NHL. All talented, all young. Morgan Frost on the way next season. Perhaps Joel Farabee the year after that. Isaac Ratcliffe has a decent shot at being developed into a good NHL winger.

4) "Whiffed on Pettersson." First of all, do you know have many teams would have taken Pettersson if they had the 2nd overall pick in the 2017 draft? The answer is zero, including Vancouver. It was a two-horse race between Hischier and Patrick for the top spot with Heiskanen a dark horse. You can't come back a couple years later and retro-draft what you "should" have done with the pick, when no team would have done so at the time.

Secondly, Nolan Patrick is coming along fine. He's been one of the Flyers best players in the second half of the season thus far, and not just because he's now scoring with some regularity. He's developing a good 200-foot game. He doesn't have elite speed but he has a lot of skill, good hockey sense, is big and strong and is improving his quickness. He's going to be a very good player in the league for a long time.

Lastly, when teams draft 18-year-olds, one of the factors they look at beyond sheer offensive upside is how much developmental guesswork is involved from draft year to draft-plus-one to draft-plus-two. Patrick was projectable as immediately NHL ready as a top 9 with a "safe" top 6 upside within a couple years and potential first-line upside by the time he's 23 or 24. You know what you call a player with such projections? The first or second pick of the draft.

Pettersson is obviously a special talent, too. Hence, him being the fifth overall pick in the draft, and the third forward off the board. If he had been projected as being ready to step right into the NHL a year ago, as Hischier and Patrick were, he might well have been a first or second overall pick. If his immediate impact this season, which has outpaced Patrick or Hischier, had been knowable, the Devils or Flyers would have waited the extra year for his arrival. However, that's all hindsight.

The reality at the time: since there was just a shade more guesswork about his NHL ETA and timetable to be an impact player -- which has been very quick, as it turned out -- he was the third forward and fifth pick overall.

The Stars, who picked third overall, were thrilled to get Heiskanen in that spot. For good reason, too, as he looks like a future No. 1 defenseman. Colorado took Makar fourth..... plenty of upside but not yet in the NHL.
- bmeltzer

Not to be a thorn in anyone's side, but, this isn't true Bill. It's come to light from Linden talking after his dismissal that the Canucks had Pettersson and Makar at the top of their list.

"Canucks president Trevor Linden told TSN radio's Matt Sekeres that Hischier, who went first overall, and Patrick, who went second overall, would not have been Vancouver's choices had they been selecting first overall. Linden never mentioned who his team would have taken in that spot. The Canucks ended up drafting Elias Pettersson fifth overall last June."

Our old friend Oliver Lauridsen from WAY DOWN TOWN:

https://twitter.com/khl_e...tatus/1098606521188040705
- johndewar

Sign him now!

Simmonds would have more points if his center was creating more plays and setting him up better. It's a two way street.
- MJL

It is, especially beginning of year but Simmer has struggled more than Patrick

Our old friend Oliver Lauridsen from WAY DOWN TOWN:

https://twitter.com/khl_e...tatus/1098606521188040705
- johndewar

Ha, not as easy to stop that one as it looks, especially with the way pucks bounce....

Not to be a thorn in anyone's side, but, this isn't true Bill. It's come to light from Linden talking after his dismissal that the Canucks had Pettersson and Makar at the top of their list.

"Canucks president Trevor Linden told TSN radio's Matt Sekeres that Hischier, who went first overall, and Patrick, who went second overall, would not have been Vancouver's choices had they been selecting first overall. Linden never mentioned who his team would have taken in that spot. The Canucks ended up drafting Elias Pettersson fifth overall last June."
- DraftandDestroy

So probably Heiskanen.

So probably Heiskanen.
- MBFlyerfan

Pettersson or Makar.

100% off topic, but if you ever played Castlevania and haven't watched the Netflix series, you are doing yourself a disservice.

It's no standard video game anime adaptation trash, and it's definitely not for kids. What it is, though, is ridiculously awesome. Think Game of Thrones with vampires.
- jmatchett383

You had me at Game of Thrones


On a side not rumour is Hoffman is available. Would anyone be interested in that add? Still has another year on his contract. Looks like FLA is trying to shed cap space.

RIP Peter Tork

Not to be a thorn in anyone's side, but, this isn't true Bill. It's come to light from Linden talking after his dismissal that the Canucks had Pettersson and Makar at the top of their list.

"Canucks president Trevor Linden told TSN radio's Matt Sekeres that Hischier, who went first overall, and Patrick, who went second overall, would not have been Vancouver's choices had they been selecting first overall. Linden never mentioned who his team would have taken in that spot. The Canucks ended up drafting Elias Pettersson fifth overall last June."
- DraftandDestroy

To be honest this sounds like one of those things where it gets leaked that a team "could of" traded basically nothing for some player that becomes a superstar, but they "turned it down".

So Linden was never in the position to take whoever he wanted in the draft making it a lot easier to make statements like that. Now if Vancouver traded up to draft the guy they wanted instead of the popular pick then I would be impressed, but then again some may say they knew he would be there so why trade up? Well that would be piss poor management not to go and get the guy you want, you never take that risk and lose out on the guy you know you want. Then again Petterssson was ranked between where he was selected and all the way down to 12-13, so they didn't really reach.

Now if Barrett Hayton turns out to be the best in his draft year then you have to give Chayka and scouts much respect for making that pick. The whole "I wouldn't have" argument only makes the person look good, but has no downside if they are wrong.

5 years from now if Nico and/or Nolan are top 5 in the league in scoring, are people remembering what Linden said and calling him a moron?

Not to be a thorn in anyone's side, but, this isn't true Bill. It's come to light from Linden talking after his dismissal that the Canucks had Pettersson and Makar at the top of their list.

"Canucks president Trevor Linden told TSN radio's Matt Sekeres that Hischier, who went first overall, and Patrick, who went second overall, would not have been Vancouver's choices had they been selecting first overall. Linden never mentioned who his team would have taken in that spot. The Canucks ended up drafting Elias Pettersson fifth overall last June."
- DraftandDestroy

This doesn’t say squat. Teams always twist words to promote their own choice when it pans out or if they need to defend it. It says nothing about two other players chosen before him. Maybe they got lucky.

This doesn’t say squat. Teams always twist words to promote their own choice when it pans out or if they need to defend it. I says nothing about two other players chosen before him. Maybe they got lucky.
- NC Flyers Fan

Pettersson was a highly regarded prospect anyway, it's not like they picked some guy ranked to go in the 5th round that high. Pettersson is a really skilled player and at the time had more question marks than others. He made the most of his situation and looks damn good, but it's only been one season so far. Plus Nico and Nolan both have 1 more year in the NHL. If Pettersson was their number 1 pick the whole time he would of came over last year.

I'm not trying to knock Pettersson, like I said he is highly skilled, but he is as frail as a soggy paper bag. He hasn't even played a full season and has been injured 3 times already. Let's at least see how he holds up over a few more years before anyone starts calling him the best player in the draft.

100% off topic, but if you ever played Castlevania and haven't watched the Netflix series, you are doing yourself a disservice.

It's no standard video game anime adaptation trash, and it's definitely not for kids. What it is, though, is ridiculously awesome. Think Game of Thrones with vampires.
- jmatchett383

Seen it and I also enjoyed it. The first episode isn't so great but after that it really finds it's stride.

It is, especially beginning of year but Simmer has struggled more than Patrick
- wcorvette

Simmonds 16G 11A
Patrick 12G 11A

Seen it and I also enjoyed it. The first episode isn't so great but after that it really finds it's stride.
- FlyersGrace

Does the story arc follow the games or is it just based off the games?

Not to be a thorn in anyone's side, but, this isn't true Bill. It's come to light from Linden talking after his dismissal that the Canucks had Pettersson and Makar at the top of their list.

"Canucks president Trevor Linden told TSN radio's Matt Sekeres that Hischier, who went first overall, and Patrick, who went second overall, would not have been Vancouver's choices had they been selecting first overall. Linden never mentioned who his team would have taken in that spot. The Canucks ended up drafting Elias Pettersson fifth overall last June."
- DraftandDestroy

Revisionist history...that is a "look how smart we were" statement. For all anyone knows, they were not expecting either guy to be available.

To be honest this sounds like one of those things where it gets leaked that a team "could of" traded basically nothing for some player that becomes a superstar, but they "turned it down".

So Linden was never in the position to take whoever he wanted in the draft making it a lot easier to make statements like that. Now if Vancouver traded up to draft the guy they wanted instead of the popular pick then I would be impressed, but then again some may say they knew he would be there so why trade up? Well that would be piss poor management not to go and get the guy you want, you never take that risk and lose out on the guy you know you want. Then again Petterssson was ranked between where he was selected and all the way down to 12-13, so they didn't really reach.

Now if Barrett Hayton turns out to be the best in his draft year then you have to give Chayka and scouts much respect for making that pick. The whole "I wouldn't have" argument only makes the person look good, but has no downside if they are wrong.

5 years from now if Nico and/or Nolan are top 5 in the league in scoring, are people remembering what Linden said and calling him a moron?
- Glak18

Don't look to deep into it, honestly, he didn't say what he said to discredit anyone, he was simply stating that they liked Pettersson more than both of the guys that went top two.

So they got it right, big deal, Hextall could wipe the floor with Benning when it comes to asset management and drafting. Hextall got a lot more over his five years than Benning's got over his.

So Washington just acquired Hagelin from LA for a 3rd and a 6th. What is Stone and Duchene going to cost to acquire? Simmonds fits somewhere in the middle of that.

Don't look to deep into it, honestly, he didn't say what he said to discredit anyone, he was simply stating that they liked Pettersson more than both of the guys that went top two.

So they got it right, big deal, Hextall could wipe the floor with Benning when it comes to asset management and drafting. Hextall got a lot more over his five years than Benning's got over his.
- DraftandDestroy

That's what I think most people don't understand, they got it right for 1 year? You draft kids for a career, not just for their rookie year. I would love to have Pettersson on the Flyers to see if he could do the same thing, but I'm still taking Patrick at #2 10 out of 10 times.

Does the story arc follow the games or is it just based off the games?
- Glak18

It's based around Castelvania III and surprisingly faithful to the game. They obviously made an attempt to stick with certain, looks, powers, etc. There is a ton more character development and flushed out story that goes into the anime vs the game.
NOT kid friendly. That said, get past the first episode and it's a fun ride and you don't have to be familiar with the games to get into it.