RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Poile is possibly somewhat desperate, and he's coveted Duchene for two years now. Hate to give up on Tolvanen so quickly, but as long as Fabbro isn't included in the deal I'd be mildly okay with this trade. - Squatchy
Keep both for Christ’s sake. Duchene isn’t worth it. |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Keep both for Christ’s sake. Duchene isn’t worth it. - RafiDRW
No he’s not.
Especially if he’s a rental |
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vince70
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Turnersville, NJ Joined: 02.18.2009
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Come on Ek, what about Simmer..... |
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Squatchy
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: 05.09.2018
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Keep both for Christ’s sake. Duchene isn’t worth it. - RafiDRW
Agreed. This is one case where I actually hope we get outbid. Good player but I don't want to mortgage the farm for him. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Come on Ek, what about Simmer..... - vince70
FlyerBuzz takes a day off on Wednesday |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Back to Netflix. More to come... |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Agreed. This is one case where I actually hope we get outbid. Good player but I don't want to mortgage the farm for him. - Squatchy
But Ottawa did and look how well that ended up....oh wait |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Back to Netflix. More to come... - gergeswillems
Let's chill |
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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN Joined: 04.16.2016
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Agreed. This is one case where I actually hope we get outbid. Good player but I don't want to mortgage the farm for him. - Squatchy
Fabbro and Tolvanen are definitely the next wave for the Preds. Better to keep internal top players than overpay for ones that might only help you for 2 months. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Come on Ek, what about Simmer..... - vince70
He's kind of old now. Great player during his Triple Crown line Kings days. I still can't understand why the Red Wings traded Marcel Dionne. Idiots. |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Agreed. This is one case where I actually hope we get outbid. Good player but I don't want to mortgage the farm for him. - Squatchy
Kings managed to win by trading Schenn and Simmonds to Philly for Richards. So it might not be so bad but yeah it’s a huge risk |
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Squatchy
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: 05.09.2018
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Kings managed to win by trading Schenn and Simmonds to Philly for Richards. So it might not be so bad but yeah it’s a huge risk - KINGS67
Yup, it's a win the Cup or this season is a total failure kind of trade because you traded away your entire future for a guy you can't possibly resign unless you can unload Subban or Ellis in the off season. Poile's seems fixated on Duchene though, and that worries me. |
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Back to Netflix. More to come... - gergeswillems
Having lunch with a source (his Twitter account). |
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KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder Los Angeles Kings |
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Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA Joined: 01.29.2010
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Yup, it's a win the Cup or this season is a total failure kind of trade because you traded away your entire future for a guy you can't possibly resign unless you can unload Subban or Ellis in the off season. Poile's seems fixated on Duchene though, and that worries me. - Squatchy
Risk/reward.
I’d say NSH has a very very good chance at winning with the acquisition of Duchene. I’d put money on them in 7 games vs TB. I definitely think they can beat WPG with that lineup, even if WPG gets stone |
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PapaSquat
Florida Panthers |
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Location: NY Joined: 06.02.2015
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this means that Stone and Duchene won't be traded |
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What do you think that it would take to get both Stone + Duchene? Not suggesting that is a thing at all, but just curious as to your thoughts. - jmayfield
Tolvanen, Ellis, Irwin, Turris and 2nd. |
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holycow_75
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 01.26.2012
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I can't see Poile trading away a roster play plus a top prospect plus a pick, just for a rental. If he believes Duchene is the answer, that's his call, but I can't see him parting with the top two prospects and/or solid roster player plus a 1st rounder for just Duchene.
I'd love to see a huge blockbuster deal, with two solid roster players plus the top Nashville prospect and a 1st rounder to Ottawa for Duchene/Stone if they were willing to sign and trade to extended deals.
To Ottawa:
Subban
Fiala
Tolvanen
2019 - 1st Round Pick
To Nashville:
Duchene (re-sign 3years @ $7MM per)
Stone (re-sign 3 years @ $8MM per)
Nashville could move Hamhuis up to second pair & Fabbro to 3rd pair for playoff run. Nashville's forward lines would look like this:
Forsberg-Johansen-Arvidsson
Smith-Duchene-Stone
Jarnkrok-Turris-Boyle
Hartman-Bonino-Sissons
That's a roster that could compete for a Cup. I'm sure it won't happen. But man it would make a huge splash! Come on Poile. Do it! |
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What if Nashville does a sign and trade for Duchene. As part of the deal they flip Turris to Columbus who is desperate for a Centre.
To Ottawa:
Nashville 1st in 2019
Columbus 1st in 2019
Hannu Toivonen
To Nashville:
Matt Duchene
To Columbus:
Kyle Turris
Nashville gets a signed Duchene which is a big upgrade over Turris. Columbus gets a badly needed centre and can recoup their lost pick if they deal Panarin. Ottawa gets a stud prospect and two mid to late 1st round picks. |
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cnatch
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: ON Joined: 07.02.2018
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"back to the phones" = candy crush.
Almost cleared level 119! |
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Davante Smith-Pelle just put on waivers! |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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I can't see Poile trading away a roster play plus a top prospect plus a pick, just for a rental. If he believes Duchene is the answer, that's his call, but I can't see him parting with the top two prospects and/or solid roster player plus a 1st rounder for just Duchene.
I'd love to see a huge blockbuster deal, with two solid roster players plus the top Nashville prospect and a 1st rounder to Ottawa for Duchene/Stone if they were willing to sign and trade to extended deals.
To Ottawa:
Subban
Fiala
Tolvanen
2019 - 1st Round Pick
To Nashville:
Duchene (re-sign 3years @ $7MM per)
Stone (re-sign 3 years @ $8MM per)
Nashville could move Hamhuis up to second pair & Fabbro to 3rd pair for playoff run. Nashville's forward lines would look like this:
Forsberg-Johansen-Arvidsson
Smith-Duchene-Stone
Jarnkrok-Turris-Boyle
Hartman-Bonino-Sissons
That's a roster that could compete for a Cup. I'm sure it won't happen. But man it would make a huge splash! Come on Poile. Do it! - holycow_75
Don't think the numbers work for you. Reports are that the AAV on the amended offer for Stone is $10m with bonus payouts. It would set him up to be UFA again at age 31.
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Whatever the reports are on Sens offer to Stone it should be regarded merely as telegraphing what he will need to get paid on a long term deal after he is traded to another team. I believe Melnyk would make a big offer. I doubt he would ever part with the cash by actually signing the deal. |
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Wingsfan61
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Westland, MI Joined: 05.09.2008
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I saw a report yesterday on Hockey Feed that said that a Matthew Duchene just recently bought a house in the Nashville area. Could be a different Duchene, but makes you wonder. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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"back to the phones" = candy crush.
Almost cleared level 119! - cnatch
Smooth move! |
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Squatchy
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: 05.09.2018
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I can't see Poile trading away a roster play plus a top prospect plus a pick, just for a rental. If he believes Duchene is the answer, that's his call, but I can't see him parting with the top two prospects and/or solid roster player plus a 1st rounder for just Duchene.
I'd love to see a huge blockbuster deal, with two solid roster players plus the top Nashville prospect and a 1st rounder to Ottawa for Duchene/Stone if they were willing to sign and trade to extended deals.
To Ottawa:
Subban
Fiala
Tolvanen
2019 - 1st Round Pick
To Nashville:
Duchene (re-sign 3years @ $7MM per)
Stone (re-sign 3 years @ $8MM per)
Nashville could move Hamhuis up to second pair & Fabbro to 3rd pair for playoff run. Nashville's forward lines would look like this:
Forsberg-Johansen-Arvidsson
Smith-Duchene-Stone
Jarnkrok-Turris-Boyle
Hartman-Bonino-Sissons
That's a roster that could compete for a Cup. I'm sure it won't happen. But man it would make a huge splash! Come on Poile. Do it! - holycow_75
Ha, I proposed almost the exact same fantasy deal before only Involving Ellis and another pick on Nashville's end. Like you said though, it won't happen. No incentive for Ottawa to do this when they can land three or four assets a piece if they trade both guys individually, and why wouldn't they? Subban or Ellis contracts are way too pricey to move at the deadline, unless Ottawa just really wanted one of them or could immediately flip them for even more assets. |
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