You guys couldn't even give us ONE POINT???
- BINGO!

Wanted to give you two in regulation.

Serious question is there any contract you would be happy if the Rangers extended Hayes? With in reason
- mdw7413

No. Because at what point are we done waiting for him to be a real number one center. He's a good player, but probably won't ever be great.

I'm pretty sure you can suck my ass, man
- eichiefs9

maybe

No. Because at what point are we done waiting for him to be a real number one center. He's a good player, but probably won't ever be great.
- tomburton99

Well if Zib is the #1, Hayes would be the number 2

Well if Zib is the #1, Hayes would be the number 2
- mdw7413

Zib probably isn't a number one center either. But The Rangers would probably have to pay Hayes more. The cap hit % would probably be similar in terms of when the deal signed

It would probably be my preference that they do extend him at a reasonable rate, unless some team gives up the farm.
- Pete V

I’ve been fighting it also, to keep or trade him. On one hand you don’t wanna over pay him specifically on the other hand eventually you’d have overpay someone else most likely. And does that player do as much as Hayes does. I feel like guys like Tom wanna trade him to say hey we made more trades for picks or prospects. Hayes isn’t old, he doesn’t suck at all and he’s a center. You need all that for a rebuilding team

Like if all they get is a first and a decent prospect I don’t think it’s a very good move, because the first will be later most likely and can you guarantee the same production or player Hayes is giving by picking there? Hell no you can’t. And I’m not the biggest fan of Hayes out there, it’s just a logic thing with me. Eventually we trade everyone but the kitchen sink and have a bunch of draft picks they may or may not amount to much of anything. I don’t have much confidence in the scouts like some mention so I’d prefer a really good nhl ready prospect if I had to pick the return for Hayes

No. Because at what point are we done waiting for him to be a real number one center. He's a good player, but probably won't ever be great.
- tomburton99

I think we have bigger concerns at wing, D and bottom 6 than what Hayes has to offer. I think Hayes as a 2C is actually solid, especially if Zib can continue his great play. The difference right now is the lack of having that stud(s) to go with a guy like Hayes, and even Zib.

All that said, I think we should trade him for the right package. A first and a 1b prospect would be sufficient for me. Has to be a multiplayer deal though. Trade one good asset for the possibility of two good assets.

Zib probably isn't a number one center either. But The Rangers would probably have to pay Hayes more. The cap hit % would probably be similar in terms of when the deal signed
- tomburton99

So if they signed Hayes for 5x6 with a limited NTC in the 1st say 3 years and nothing after, you would have an issue?

Zib probably isn't a number one center either. But The Rangers would probably have to pay Hayes more. The cap hit % would probably be similar in terms of when the deal signed
- tomburton99

I look at Zib as a low end 1C. Not elite by any means but he is producing better then a #2

I think we have bigger concerns at wing, D and bottom 6 than what Hayes has to offer. I think Hayes as a 2C is actually solid, especially if Zib can continue his great play. The difference right now is the lack of having that stud(s) to go with a guy like Hayes, and even Zib.

All that said, I think we should trade him for the right package. A first and a 1b prospect would be sufficient for me. Has to be a multiplayer deal though. Trade one good asset for the possibility of two good assets.
- Bean_Dip

Been saying the same thing, center is fine we need some godamned top 6 wingers

Been saying the same thing, center is fine we need some godamned top 6 wingers
- mdw7413

On the flip side to this though, they could draft a stud with the pick they get for trading Hayes...

The Rangers have a great supporting cast. If they had a one/two punch of Stammer and Kuch or something like that, I actually think they would be a strong team. But the defense would ultimately kill any cup possibilities

I think we have bigger concerns at wing, D and bottom 6 than what Hayes has to offer. I think Hayes as a 2C is actually solid, especially if Zib can continue his great play. The difference right now is the lack of having that stud(s) to go with a guy like Hayes, and even Zib.

All that said, I think we should trade him for the right package. A first and a 1b prospect would be sufficient for me. Has to be a multiplayer deal though. Trade one good asset for the possibility of two good assets.
- Bean_Dip

They have concerns everywhere.

Been saying the same thing, center is fine we need some godamned top 6 wingers
- mdw7413

The centers aren't fine. You need a number 1 center. You have to have it. Zib and Hayes are good. They are number 1 centers.

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Was just about to fall asleep and got a call from a trusted source telling me "#NHLBruins ready to try the Hayes family again! B's are frontrunners for #NYR C Kevin Hayes if they miss out on Stone or Panarin."

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11:51 PM - 19 Feb 2019

Didn't see it last night's blog or this one.
- tomburton99

See point #4 on my blog posted this morning...

Been saying the same thing, center is fine we need some godamned top 6 wingers
- mdw7413

For arguments sake, zucc is traded and resigned, and re-signing Hayes

Top two lines are

KZZ
Krav-Hayes-Chytil

That is a pretty good top 6. I think it’s risky to assume Chytil is a guaranteed center and not a winger. Hopefully a much more productive and consistent J.T. Miller, which would be terrific if he turned out that way. Obviously I’m banking on Kravtsov being a stud also

That’s all without signing Panarin or someone else, possibly. And then Karlsson and you really have a quality team imo

I don’t think they are as far off from contending as most think, thus my feeling on what do with Hayes

On the flip side to this though, they could draft a stud with the pick they get for trading Hayes...

The Rangers have a great supporting cast. If they had a one/two punch of Stammer and Kuch or something like that, I actually think they would be a strong team. But the defense would ultimately kill any cup possibilities
- Bean_Dip

Honestly, we hope Chytil becomes that stud. I do know that with Zib and Hayes, the team is pretty decent down the middle. You hope will all the defensive prospects we added, a few of them help shape the next good core. Even for teams that draft well and pick high, it's hard to duplicate Stammer and Kuch. You have to either get incredibly lucky (Pittsburgh) or you need to snag a key UFA at the right time (Toronto). A much more realistic scenario would be to duplicate when the Sharks had THornton and Pavelski in their primes and even that is not a given.

See point #4 on my blog posted this morning...
- airjan23

My bad.

The centers aren't fine. You need a number 1 center. You have to have it. Zib and Hayes are good. They are number 1 centers.
- tomburton99

I agree Zib needs to back this year up next year. If he does though, he is clearly a #1 center.

The centers aren't fine. You need a number 1 center. You have to have it. Zib and Hayes are good. They are number 1 centers.
- tomburton99

Zib's pretty close right now, IMO.

But he's 26. You'll get 3 or 4 more years of him being a 60+ point player and then he'll likely start falling away

Zib's pretty close right now, IMO.

But he's 26. You'll get 3 or 4 more years of him being a 60+ point player and then he'll likely start falling away
- BINGO!

not until Apr 18

The centers aren't fine. You need a number 1 center. You have to have it. Zib and Hayes are good. They are number 1 centers.
- tomburton99

And where they are picking they aint going to draft one..... I want Salma Hayek to use my face as a bicycle seat, but I'm pretty sure it aint happening

And where they are picking they aint going to draft one..... I want Scarlett Johansson to let me motorboat her, but I'm pretty sure it aint happening
- mdw7413

Fixed

not until Apr 18
- jimbro83

Yeah. I figured it was close enough.

For arguments sake, zucc is traded and resigned, and re-signing Hayes

Top two lines are

KZZ
Krav-Hayes-Chytil

That is a pretty good top 6. I think it’s risky to assume Chytil is a guaranteed center and not a winger. Hopefully a much more productive and consistent J.T. Miller, which would be terrific if he turned out that way. Obviously I’m banking on Kravtsov being a stud also

That’s all without signing Panarin or someone else, possibly. And then Karlsson and you really have a quality team imo

I don’t think they are as far off from contending as most think, thus my feeling on what do with Hayes
- Slimtj100

Yup, its a tough call

Fixed
- Slimtj100

I like spicy better