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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
So is Gudas getting suspended?
- arichardson22


He has a hearing, so, yes.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
Depends on where the Flyers are in the next little while. I'm not sure the upgrade on D are currently in the organization. Pretty obvious they need to add to the group of Provy, Sanheim, Gudas and Myers. Hagg and Ghost need to play better or there positions should be in jeopardy come next year. Maybe Freidman next year? challenges for a spot. Its a young core that needs a quality type vet to help going forward.
- landros 2


Oh I agree...big in agreement. I was just talking about the remainder of this season if no target veteran is acquired now.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
I agree. The problem with Simmonds is that he's the 2nd tier of TDL players. The market hasn't been set yet with movement from Stone or Duchesne. Hopefully the Flyers can bring back at least a 1st and a body they can actually plug into NHL games.
- Pixote Andolini



That's true that there are better players that might be available but the cost for those players is also much higher. Teams looking for rentals may not be open to those players.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 20 @ 10:26 AM ET
Gudas to have a hearing for slash on Kucherov per TSN, he better not get suspended. That was nothing, Malkin got 1 game for an attempted beheading.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
I think that sums it up.

Do you buy him out, retain half in a trade for a 7th rd pick, or just waive to the minors?

- daryl stanley


He can be your 7 next year. No problem with that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
Gudas to have a hearing for slash on Kucherov per TSN, he better not get suspended. That was nothing, Malkin got 1 game for an attempted beheading.
- ClaudeFather


Whatever I want to see Myers anyway. We know all about gudas
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:27 AM ET
That's true that there are better players that might be available but the cost for those players is also much higher. Teams looking for rentals may not be open to those players.
- MJL


This and the teams who miss out on Panarin/Stone/Douchene will need a back up, and Simmonds fits that back up or tier B plan.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:28 AM ET
This and the teams who miss out on Panarin/Stone/Douchene will need a back up, and Simmonds fits that back up or tier B plan.
- arichardson22


This deadline is going to be cray cray. Good thing I’m off Monday!
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Feb 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
He can be your 7 next year. No problem with that.
- Just5

disagree has i believe he just needs to be removed from the equation.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:31 AM ET
Gudas to have a hearing for slash on Kucherov per TSN, he better not get suspended. That was nothing, Malkin got 1 game for an attempted beheading.
- ClaudeFather


I think he'll get 2-3 games. It wasn't as violent and dangerous as what Malkin did, but it was a completely unnecessary stick to the head that made contact and it was done by a repeat offender.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
I have not heard or read a statement that keeping Simmonds for the rest of the season without re-signing him is off the table. Doesn't mean he hasn't said that, just that I haven't seen it.
- MJL


Okay...I’ll try to find it for you.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
So here are my probably wrong predictions for this week leading to TDL:

- Simmonds gets moved. If your not re signing him you need to move him.

- Raffl gets moved. He's a UFA and he is a depth piece to playoff team. Probably get a pick somewhere around 3-5 round range.

- I see another minor move like the Leier for Bailey swap. Which I like. I think Bailey has some upside moving froward.

- Lastly I see a defensman moving. Not sure who. Maybe MacDonald with money retained. He is a shot blocker which teams like and is a veteran with experience. Maybe Gudas if someone overpays. Value might never be higher. Could they move Gostisbehere. Would have to be a big return but I could see an instance where it happens. Not sure I would move him just yet but I don't think it's far fetched.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Gudas to have a hearing for slash on Kucherov per TSN, he better not get suspended. That was nothing, Malkin got 1 game for an attempted beheading.
- ClaudeFather


Has there ever been a hearing that resulted in a zero-games suspension?
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
I have not heard or read a statement that keeping Simmonds for the rest of the season without re-signing him is off the table. Doesn't mean he hasn't said that, just that I haven't seen it.
- MJL


"Contract talks between Simmonds’ agent, Eustace King, and Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher have been slow. Fletcher said he will not have a John Tavares situation happen to the Flyers. The Islanders kept Tavares at last year’s trade deadline and then lost him to free agency in the summer."

https://www.philly.com/fl...ck-fletcher-20190219.html
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
I think he'll get 2-3 games. It wasn't as violent and dangerous as what Malkin did, but it was a completely unnecessary stick to the head that made contact and it was done by a repeat offender.
- Feanor


yup
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:36 AM ET
- Lastly I see a defensman moving.
- J35Bacher


I didn't think that was going to happen, and now with Gudas probably getting suspended I think it's even less likely.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
Has there ever been a hearing that resulted in a zero-games suspension?
- Scoob


Yeah, Tom Wilson had at least one of those.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports...-for-schenn-hit-1.2469204
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
Gudas to have a hearing for slash on Kucherov per TSN, he better not get suspended. That was nothing, Malkin got 1 game for an attempted beheading.
- ClaudeFather



There is a hearing. He is going to get suspended.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
Leave it to (frank)ing Gudas to get suspended right before we could potentially trade him. (frank)ing knucklehead.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
There is a hearing. He is going to get suspended.
- MJL


Sucks he may miss the Stadium Series game now. Hopefully the NHL knows he’s good fuel for the rivalary fire with Pens and takes it easy. They’re are consistently inconsistent after all
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Feb 20 @ 10:42 AM ET
Didn't back read, so sorry if this was already covered.

Seemed to me that Simmonds played one of his more physical games in quite a while last night. Wonder if he was auditioning for Tampa...

Personally, I don't see why TB would trade for him and risk disrupting the good thing they got going on right now. However, dominant regular season teams, especially those primarily built on finesse, rarely hoist the cup. So maybe they'll feel that bringing in a guy that doesn't seem to fit at all will bring "skills" that they need to make it through the playoffs.

Problem is that TB would probably then view him as strictly a rental, and therefore not be willing to give up much. No matter who signs him to his next deal, they'll like be overpaying him. And given TB's cap situation, I can't see them even wanting to re-sign him after this year's run.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Feb 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
Leave it to (frank)ing Gudas to get suspended right before we could potentially trade him. (frank)ing knucklehead.
- johndewar


He is a pioneer. Instead of faking an injury like JVR to avoid being traded he is out there chopping at heads with his stick.

Brilliant minds like Gudas are sometimes hard to understand because they are so ahead of their time.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Okay...I’ll try to find it for you.
- NC Flyers Fan


Edit: Sam’s original quote may have been on Twitter but here.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...or-moved-by-deadline.html

https://www.philly.com/fl...ck-fletcher-20190219.html
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Leave it to (frank)ing Gudas to get suspended right before we could potentially trade him. (frank)ing knucklehead.
- johndewar


They can still trade him.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Yeah, Tom Wilson had at least one of those.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports...-for-schenn-hit-1.2469204

- Feanor


huh...thanks...I've always assumed that a hearing always results in a suspension
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