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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 20 @ 2:13 PM ET
Smith-Pelley could be an okay get. Still like Johansen from the devils.
- Chuck-Norris


One of these things is not like the other.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 20 @ 2:14 PM ET
One of these things is not like the other.
- j.boyd919


You mean DSP isn’t a consolation prize to MJ?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
Would anyone mind getting the bullet points to what the Pens deadline targets are in Yohe’s new column?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
One of these things is not like the other.
- j.boyd919

Joel Ward is a free agent though. Sign him before the deadline and he is playoff eligible.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:16 PM ET
Would anyone mind getting the bullet points to what the Pens deadline targets are in Yohe’s new column?
- Rinosaur

Nick Jensen
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 20 @ 2:17 PM ET
Nick Jensen
- Feds91Stammer


Along with Nyquist for Pearson and some change?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Along with Nyquist for Pearson and Hallander
- Rinosaur

Sure
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
Sure
- Feds91Stammer


LOL

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
LOL
- Rinosaur

Gotta give to get
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
Burakovsky is RFA
- Feds91Stammer


Ohhh..well, that changes things a bit.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Nick Jensen
- Feds91Stammer



What do you want for him?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
What do you want for him?
- MattStrat

Realistically I will take a 3rd. Knowing the D market though I would push for a 2nd.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
Realistically I will take a 3rd. Knowing the D market though I would push for a 2nd.
- Feds91Stammer

Well we have neither of those, so...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
Well we have neither of those, so...
- Victoro311

Hey I didn't say what year. This is a long term rebuild in DET.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
Realistically I will take a 3rd. Knowing the D market though I would push for a 2nd.
- Feds91Stammer


How about a 2020 3rd rounder and a 2021 2nd rounder? That get it done?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
How about a 2020 3rd rounder and a 2021 2nd rounder? That get it done?
- MattStrat

Sure
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Sure
- Feds91Stammer


Damn. Should of just offered one of the 2 picks.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Damn. Should of just offered one of the 2 picks.
- MattStrat

Your offer makes sense. You offered a premium due to the waiting time for the picks. Probably wouldn't take either pick by itself.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Do the Pens need more forwards? I'm kind of leaning towards no. I'm not saying I wouldn't like a different player or two, but I don't think we need to expend our 1st rounder for Dzingel. Defense is where I'd look, but it's kind of the same situation if Maatta is coming back and JJ isn't coming out.

I'm not opposed to a hockey trade... Player for player, but usually sellers want picks and prospects.

- madmike71

GMJR basically ostracized the public for their attacks on Jack Johnson. He will not be removed from the lineup. Maatta gets a spot too if healthy.
If any move is made it's for another forward. I could see them getting a LW or RW depending on price. I just cant see them making a splash without moving a solid contract as part of the return. I think getting Hornqvist and Kessel scoring again are as important as another trade though.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
Your offer makes sense. You offered a premium due to the waiting time for the picks. Probably wouldn't take either pick by itself.
- Feds91Stammer

How pro or anti would you be to a Pettersson-Jensen swap? Logic for the Pens being that we're playing Johnson regardless and Jensen would give us a natural RD rather than making Johnson even worse by playing on Pettersson's right. We have way too many LDs and could stand to get a better RD for the bottom pairing.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
How pro or anti would you be to a Pettersson-Jensen swap? Logic for the Pens being that we're playing Johnson regardless and Jensen would give us a natural RD rather than making Johnson even worse by playing on Pettersson's right. We have way too many LDs and could stand to get a better RD for the bottom pairing.
- Victoro311



It is a slight upgrade, but a RFa with good upside for an UFA. I dont like losing the controlled played for a rental.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:38 PM ET
It is a slight upgrade, but a RFa with good upside for an UFA. I dont like losing the controlled played for a rental.
- Guile

Well we're not dumping Johnson and we have 5 LDs under long term team control. We should either exchange Pettersson for an RD or trade Maatta and put Pettersson on the second pairing, which has serious bust potential. If Johnson wasn't in the picture, I'd totally agree with you, but he is and Sully and Rutherford don't share our opinions on him, so it is what it is.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:46 PM ET
The case of Brandon Sutter is extra weird because he has been billed as a shut down center his whole career when his only redeeming traits are very clearly offensive. There is absolutely zero about his defensive game that would make old school hockey guys gush. He doesn't block shots, he's Charmin soft on the boards, and his positioning and instincts aren't anything special (doesn't generate take aways at any impressive rate). I really have no clue how he got that reputation.
- Victoro311

I think you meant he's ten-ply...
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
Well we're not dumping Johnson and we have 5 LDs under long term team control. We should either exchange Pettersson for an RD or trade Maatta and put Pettersson on the second pairing, which has serious bust potential. If Johnson wasn't in the picture, I'd totally agree with you, but he is and Sully and Rutherford don't share our opinions on him, so it is what it is.
- Victoro311



Not with that attitude you won't
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
I think at this point the best course of action is the Pens bringing in an upgrade at LW with Pearson going the other way. It's not that I don't like Pearson, but financially and roster-spot-wise it just makes the most sense.
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