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RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Feb 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
The trade couldnt of waited because Edmonton needed to clear space for Sekera. Other teams were apparently interested so EDM might have found another suitor if Flyers tried to delay.
- Baxter27

I realize that Edmonton needed to clear salary to bring up Sekera, but the trade when it went down, was to their advantage. It put the Flyers in a bad position if anything were to happen to Hart. I heard that other teams were interested in Talbot, but do we really know for sure that was the case - or was it just gamesmanship to get it done from the Oilers' point of view.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
And the methodology of the coaching staff before this one, etc. Maybe there is more to it than that.
- MJL

Care to tell us what it is then?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
Because



Check out the flying elbow by Giroux at the 11 second mark.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
There must be some other way of watching Amac play where some people think he is a capable dman, but I don’t know what it is. He is horrible and has always been horrible. He fails the eye test and the advanced stats test. He makes every d partner worse, currently Ghost. Yet GM’s and coaches alike keep throwing him out there game after game to commit the same turnovers and mistakes that he routinely makes. Baffling. Morin and Myers would have been regulars for a season or two if held to Amacs low standards.
- darkerens



Its crazy isn't it? He has averaged over 20 minutes a game his entire career playing under 4 different coaches (Scott Gordon twice)

This season is the lowest avg ice time of his career by almost 3 minutes.

He must have naked pictures of wives or something.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Machado to the Padres. 10 years, 300 million.


DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Feb 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Machado to the Padres. 10 years, 300 million.
- MBFlyerfan

no carfare?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
Is he pulling a Jeff Carter?
- aightwebang17

Banging girls from the OD 3 atta time?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
Care to tell us what it is then?
- ClaudeFather



Sure. The team still feels like they are in the running for a playoff spot. Myers is a rookie. So lets explore the options. They aren't going to break up the Provorov/Sanheim pairing. Gudas has been playing well and they aren't going to take him out of the lineup. If you play Myers with Gudas and take Haag out, that puts two RH defenseman together. That leaves the Gostisbehere/MacDonald pairing. Gostisbehere has been struggling but what is the best thing for him now? To sit out or to play through it and try and build up down the stretch. If you take out MacDonald, you're then putting a rookie inexperienced player with a player who is struggling.

At some point, a player will be traded to make a spot, or they will come to the decision that the playoffs are out of reach and add Myers to the lineup.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
Banging girls from the OD 3 atta time?
- KINGKENZO


This was well done.

I hate when I get beat to a good Sea Isle/Jeff Carter joke.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
Sure. The team still feels like they are in the running for a playoff spot. Myers is a rookie. So lets explore the options. They aren't going to break up the Provorov/Sanheim pairing. Gudas has been playing well and they aren't going to take him out of the lineup. If you play Myers with Gudas and take Haag out, that puts two RH defenseman together. That leaves the Gostisbehere/MacDonald pairing. Gostisbehere has been struggling but what is the best thing for him now? To sit out or to play through it and try and build up down the stretch. If you take out MacDonald, you're then putting a rookie inexperienced player with a player who is struggling.

At some point, a player will be traded to make a spot, or they will come to the decision that the playoffs are out of reach and add Myers to the lineup.

- MJL


Of course, injuries are also a possibility. Or using a fresher player on the second half of back to back games.

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:36 PM ET
There must be some other way of watching Amac play where some people think he is a capable dman, but I don’t know what it is. He is horrible and has always been horrible. He fails the eye test and the advanced stats test. He makes every d partner worse, currently Ghost. Yet GM’s and coaches alike keep throwing him out there game after game to commit the same turnovers and mistakes that he routinely makes. Baffling. Morin and Myers would have been regulars for a season or two if held to Amacs low standards.
- darkerens


It's called not looking at his salary. If MacDonald made 900K a season and was the 6th-7th d-man, he would be a very capable and inexpensive 6th-7th guy.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
Banging girls from the OD 3 atta time?
- KINGKENZO

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
It's called not looking at his salary. If MacDonald made 900K a season and was the 6th-7th d-man, he would be a very capable and inexpensive 6th-7th guy.
- youarewrong

MJL had a logical explanation, this is not. No one cares what he makes, we are saying we have a better option in Meyers. No issue with him being the 7th guy.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
True, but I question the timing of the Talbot/Stolarz trade. A healthy Stolarz, to spell Hart when needed, is better than a really rusty Elliott. The trade could have waited until Elliott got some more action in LHV. The only advantage of making the trade when they did was for the Oilers, not the Flyers. In order to spell Hart now is to either play Mackenna or bring up Elliott a bit early.
- RustyPipes

I wouldn’t have made the trade.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
I wouldn’t have made the trade.
- SuperSchennBros

How does the league not have these Visa issues taken care of immediately? When it comes to this is it as if it were any average Joe?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
Banging girls from the OD 3 atta time?
- KINGKENZO

Just after Carter was traded from Columbus, the gate keeper for the Jackets Car garage was giving the Jeff Carter scoop. Girls, guys, he likes them all.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
MJL had a logical explanation, this is not. No one cares what he makes, we are saying we have a better option in Meyers. No issue with him being the 7th guy.
- ClaudeFather


Makes sense in my brain.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 19 @ 3:12 PM ET
Machado to the Padres. 10 years, 300 million.
- MBFlyerfan



I hope that leaves enough to support and feed his family.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 19 @ 3:12 PM ET

Whoops! This is kind of funny. For the record, Canes and Canadians are not the same team.

https://www.phillyvoice.c...dule-wayne-simmonds-7274/
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
Sure. The team still feels like they are in the running for a playoff spot. Myers is a rookie. So lets explore the options. They aren't going to break up the Provorov/Sanheim pairing. Gudas has been playing well and they aren't going to take him out of the lineup. If you play Myers with Gudas and take Haag out, that puts two RH defenseman together. That leaves the Gostisbehere/MacDonald pairing. Gostisbehere has been struggling but what is the best thing for him now? To sit out or to play through it and try and build up down the stretch. If you take out MacDonald, you're then putting a rookie inexperienced player with a player who is struggling.

At some point, a player will be traded to make a spot, or they will come to the decision that the playoffs are out of reach and add Myers to the lineup.

- MJL



Just move Ghost to wing. Problem solved.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
MJL had a logical explanation, this is not. No one cares what he makes, we are saying we have a better option in Meyers. No issue with him being the 7th guy.
- ClaudeFather


We? You think Myers is a better option.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:19 PM ET
How does the league not have these Visa issues taken care of immediately? When it comes to this is it as if it were any average Joe?
- ClaudeFather


Not a league issue. Dealing with government.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:20 PM ET
We? You think Myers is a better option.
- MJL

We as in many others on this board, geez man stop taking things so literally all the time. How many people the past few weeks complain everyday about Meyers not being in for Amac?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:21 PM ET
Not a league issue. Dealing with government.
- MJL

So he's an average Joe in this scenario.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
We as in many others on this board, geez man stop taking things so literally all the time. How many people the past few weeks complain everyday about Meyers not being in for Amac?
- ClaudeFather


One that I can think of.
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