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FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 19 @ 10:03 PM ET
For a guy who hasn't played in 40 games, he was pretty good.
- MJL
I thought so too..
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 19 @ 10:04 PM ET
I think Gudas is getting suspended.
- SuperSchennBros


I will be extremely pissed if he is considering what happened with Malkin and Mantha. There was 0 intent there. 100% carelessness. Should be a fine like JVR
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 19 @ 10:04 PM ET
4-1 tb. Js
- SMS4016

Well wasn’t hard to see this coming. We were due for a bad game. Get it out of way now. Would’ve been nice to see talbot in this game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:04 PM ET
the only goal he had a chance on was the 2 on 1 snipe. and i'm not gonna' say he should have had it.

i'm not absolving ghost. he's been poor, too my criticism of amac is not just tonight.

- hammarby31


No I agree, none were bad goals but he will make that save a lot. He has bailed this team out countless times.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:06 PM ET
Might want to watch the replay of that first goal and watch how MacDonald ties up the puck to wait for support that never comes while Gostisbehere just watches. Two TB players overtake him while Gostisbehere makes little effort to get out to block the shot and the puck deflects off of him in the net. Blaming MacDonald there is absurd.
- MJL


he was in the corner with the puck and didn't get it out, like he does most of the time. it's not like it's impossible to clear it when you're in a puck battle. ghost didn't help either. they were both bad. he also had a chance in the o zone to make a play for the puck, but didn't. he hesitated and then had to back peddle as they went up ice.

i'm not going to debate whether amac is good or not. any further. he isn't.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 19 @ 10:07 PM ET
On a + note... Elliot looked good, maybe will get a trade offer
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:07 PM ET
he lost the puck battle in the near corner on the first goal, too. he sucked at both ends.
- hammarby31


I’m sorry but I think Mac is every bit as bad as Advertised. I agree with MJL that Ghost is more of an issue of the pairing but Mac’s best season was last season but outside last year, he’s been a mistake from the start. Solid shot blocker. Offers nothing else.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:08 PM ET
No I agree, none were bad goals but he will make that save a lot. He has bailed this team out countless times.
- MJL


he COULD have made the save. some nights, he gets that one. it would have been a huge momentum stop at that point, to stop the bleeding and give him some confidence.

that said, a poor turnover by sanheim/provorov pairing to start the goal.

i would have taken a timeout after the 2nd goal. just settle things down. but that's me.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:08 PM ET
I will be extremely pissed if he is considering what happened with Malkin and Mantha. There was 0 intent there. 100% carelessness. Should be a fine like JVR
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It looked bad.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:09 PM ET
I’m sorry but I think Mac is every bit as bad as Advertised. I agree with MJL that Ghost is more of an issue of the pairing but Mac’s best season was last season but outside last year, he’s been a mistake from the start. Solid shot blocker. Offers nothing else.
- SuperSchennBros


no need to apologize. i think he's awful. whether ghost is playing poorly with him has zero bearing on my opinion regarding his capabilities.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:09 PM ET
he was in the corner with the puck and didn't get it out, like he does most of the time. it's not like it's impossible to clear it when you're in a puck battle. ghost didn't help either. they were both bad. he also had a chance in the o zone to make a play for the puck, but didn't. he hesitated and then had to back peddle as they went up ice.

i'm not going to debate whether amac is good or not. any further. he isn't.

- hammarby31


He had no chance to get it out, his only play was to tie up the puck and wait for support. It's the type of play that is made frequently. He got zero support from his partner. MacDonald has been playing solid hockey with a partner who has been MIA in the defensive zone. On that play, MacDonald was correct to back up. It was less than a 50/50 puck. If he had stepped up and been burnt it would've been a 2 on 1 and people would've been blaming him for that. He made the right call.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:10 PM ET
On a + note... Elliot looked good, maybe will get a trade offer
- SMS4016


he did. he played well before getting hurt too. he's a good goalie. it's a shame he hasn't been able to stay healthy. if i could trust that he would, i'd be happy to keep him with hart, but i don't see that happening.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:11 PM ET
he COULD have made the save. some nights, he gets that one. it would have been a huge momentum stop at that point, to stop the bleeding and give him some confidence.

that said, a poor turnover by sanheim/provorov pairing to start the goal.

i would have taken a timeout after the 2nd goal. just settle things down. but that's me.

- hammarby31


To be clear, I'm not blaming him. I never blame a goalie when a shooter is one on one. All I'm saying is he is capable of making a save like and I think he will make that save a high percentage of the time. He's that good.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:13 PM ET
To be clear, I'm not blaming him. I never blame a goalie when a shooter is one on one. All I'm saying is he is capable of making a save like and I think he will make that save a high percentage of the time. He's that good.
- MJL


i know you weren't. i was agreeing with you in saying he at least had a chance to make the save but didn't. i have no worries about hart, even on night like this.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 19 @ 10:17 PM ET
I will be extremely pissed if he is considering what happened with Malkin and Mantha. There was 0 intent there. 100% carelessness. Should be a fine like JVR
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

lol ok
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 19 @ 10:18 PM ET

13 Lightning quite the actor. He should be fined or whatever the max punishment is for diving. He delayed the game with his soccer foul. And continued to fake it later rubbing his jaw.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:21 PM ET
no need to apologize. i think he's awful. whether ghost is playing poorly with him has zero bearing on my opinion regarding his capabilities.
- hammarby31

Trade Mac and retain half salary. Buy him out. It doesn’t matter. Get him out. Myers, Morin, it’s time to get these kids in.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 19 @ 10:25 PM ET
he did. he played well before getting hurt too. he's a good goalie. it's a shame he hasn't been able to stay healthy. if i could trust that he would, i'd be happy to keep him with hart, but i don't see that happening.
- hammarby31

Keep the old MOOSE? He is UFA, and flyers just signed CAM!
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 19 @ 10:29 PM ET
Trade Mac and retain half salary. Buy him out. It doesn’t matter. Get him out. Myers, Morin, it’s time to get these kids in.
- SuperSchennBros


Give it up Morins not going to play. He more fragile than Rick Dipietro
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Feb 19 @ 10:32 PM ET
Keep the old MOOSE? He is UFA, and flyers just signed CAM!
- Landsbergfan


You sure about that one?
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:49 PM ET
Give it up Morins not going to play. He more fragile than Rick Dipietro
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Any news about Morin? Did he play last game? Playing next game?
ClutchFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Warminster, PA
Joined: 04.08.2008

Feb 19 @ 10:50 PM ET
You sure about that one?
- BenderRodriguez


The Chief is going to be a Jack Adams candidate in St. Louis! 11 in a row!
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Feb 19 @ 11:02 PM ET
Any news about Morin? Did he play last game? Playing next game?
- Hokeeguy9

He played 2 periods Friday. Did not play Sat or Sunday. Suffered from leg cramps and knee swelling. May play this weekend.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 19 @ 11:13 PM ET
Just asking that goaltender interference be called the same for every team
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