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Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
That's a pretty massive proposal... I think Montreal would probably insist on Alzner at around maybe 25% retained going back... I think as far as assets go, Edmonton gets raped in this deal, I know Lucic's contract is a tough one to swallow but still....
- obie


They lose a great deal, yes. But Edmonton would also gain 4 (ish) million in cap space, and that there is the kicker.
Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
Which is fine, all signs point to bust, hes just the type of player they need to add to the top 6, except one that can score...

This is where I see this team in 2 years, at which point hopefully they can legitimately enter the conversation as cup contender...

Domi Kotkaniemi ???
Drouin Suzuki Gallagher
Byron Danault Shaw
Lehkonen Poehling Armia

Mete Weber
??? Brook
Romanov Juulsen

Leaves them with 2 drafts, 2 free agency classes and mainly Petry and Tatar as trade chips to fill the 2 vacant spots (and of course a lot needs to go right for that roster to be considered contenders)

- obie


Ylonen on the RW. Also, how long till we see Fleury?
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
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Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
They lose a great deal, yes. But Edmonton would also gain 4 (ish) million in cap space, and that there is the kicker.
- Wildschwein


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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
Ne's talking about the elimination chamber
- mr.peanut

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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 04.13.2009

Feb 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
Well...

How about RNH (plays LW and C), Puljujarvi, Lucic, 2019 1st (unprotected) for Tatar, Shaw, Armia and Columbus's 2nd?

- Wildschwein


Hell yes.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
Well...

How about RNH (plays LW and C), Puljujarvi, Lucic, 2019 1st (unprotected) for Tatar, Shaw, Armia and Columbus's 2nd?

- Wildschwein


sorry, in Mtl garbage day is Tuesday
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
sorry, in Mtl garbage day is Tuesday
- fidopro


fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:04 PM ET

- Wildschwein


you bet it's a no. Lucic can't play anymore, Pujuuarvi or whatever his name is will never do, and RNH while not bad, is not really what Habs need.

you wanna save money?
MB would probably do Lucic and Pujjuravi for Hudon.
I wouldn't
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:04 PM ET
Ylonen on the RW. Also, how long till we see Fleury?
- Good On Paper


I was thinking of putting Ylonen on there but I thought I was already pushing it with the 4 rookies on the roster...

Hard to tell on Fleury, depending on Juulsen also I imagine but there's a lot of options of the right side, Fleury might be used in a trade, who knows? But he'll be knocking at the door as early as next season I would say
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:07 PM ET
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- Not_Yan


I would think so, right?

RNH would give them really good depth down the middle and they could use either him, Suzuki or Danault to get a D in a trade, Puljujarvi would become a gamble that could potentially pay off in a big way and that 1st is looking real good
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
you bet it's a no. Lucic can't play anymore, Pujuuarvi or whatever his name is will never do, and RNH while not bad, is not really what Habs need.
- fidopro


Really? I think I'd take that... losing 3 third line wingers (Tatar probably a 2nd) and a 2nd?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
I would think so, right?

RNH would give them really good depth down the middle and they could use either him, Suzuki or Danault to get a D in a trade, Puljujarvi would become a gamble that could potentially pay off in a big way and that 1st is looking real good

- obie


So I'm getting both yes and no from this board. Thus I deem it a fair trade.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
So I'm getting both yes and no from this board. Thus I deem it a fair trade.
- Wildschwein


I think Montreal wins this trade, and it's not even close
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
So I'm getting both yes and no from this board. Thus I deem it a fair trade.
- Wildschwein


they're just excited at the idea of getting something for Shaw and Tatar.
except that they got crap in return, and lost capspace doing so.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
they're just excited at the idea of getting something for Shaw and Tatar.
except that they got crap in return, and lost capspace doing so.

- fidopro


RNH + a potential top 10 pick is crap?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:16 PM ET
I think Montreal wins this trade, and it's not even close
- obie


Montreal gets the better pieces, agreed. Edmonton gets winger depth and the cap space to purchase the services of Nyquist, Silfverberg, etc.

Everyone walks away happy. Except Fido.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
they're just excited at the idea of getting something for Shaw and Tatar.
except that they got crap in return, and lost capspace doing so.

- fidopro


RNH is a good player. +, another first round pick?

Lucic is a hard pill to swallow, but meh.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
RNH is a good player. +, another first round pick?

Lucic is a hard pill to swallow, but meh.

- deadpoulet


agreed, RNH is okay, but not what Habs need. Habs need a LD or a RW, haven't we establish that months ago?
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
RNH is a good player. +, another first round pick?

Lucic is a hard pill to swallow, but meh.

- deadpoulet


They'd most likely let Lucic rot in the AHL for 2 years and buy him out, which is why Bergevin would want Edmonton to take Alzner with some money retained
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
agreed, RNH is okay, but not what Habs need. Habs need a LD or a RW, haven't we establish that months ago?
- fidopro


Want Nurse instead of Nuge?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
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Feb 17 @ 3:21 PM ET
Montreal gets the better pieces, agreed. Edmonton gets winger depth and the cap space to purchase the services of Nyquist, Silfverberg, etc.

Everyone walks away happy. Except Fido.

- Wildschwein


tks for the edit
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
They'd most likely let Lucic rot in the AHL for 2 years and buy him out, which is why Bergevin would want Edmonton to take Alzner with some money retained
- obie


That'd kill the deal. Cap space is paramount from Edmonton's perspective.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
tks for the edit
- fidopro


No worries sir. I'm nothing if not amicable.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
Want Nurse instead of Nuge?
- Wildschwein


ah, now you're talking.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
agreed, RNH is okay, but not what Habs need. Habs need a LD or a RW, haven't we establish that months ago?
- fidopro


You think the offers for that LD would be better if you lead off with RNH as trade bait instead of Tatar?

That trade would only lead to another trade but its too good to pass up when you consider value coming in versus value going out
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