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If you believe the first sentence, you cannot believe the second. He’s the perfect trade for value rental. He’s about to hit his decline, and he’s not worth his current deal. Trade, or walk. Do not sign. - Rexypoo
Based on this I wish we had traded Trouba at the 20 game mark. The man has been declining ever since To the point we will be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. |
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Based on this I wish we had traded Trouba at the 20 game mark. The man has been declining ever since To the point we will be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. - TheUltimateJet
I’m being trolled, and I know it. It’s just in my programming to be #triggered by it |
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People talk about "generational talent"
Karlsson WAS a generational talent. Yes I agree the return wasn't good.
All I was saying is that the general consensus is that teams are circling the 3 UFAs and the return should* be much better because of the number of teams in on these players; especially Stone
It's different because the Sens were limited to where they could trade Karlsson (many rosters were set in Sept) and the situation WAS different. Teams knew that Karlsson and the Sens were far apart and him returning was NOT an option. The Sens can still keep Duchene OR Stone and pay a bit more to resign them. Also Stone, Dzingel, Duchene are at the top of their game while Karlsson was coming off a poor year, including significant enough health concerns - AlfieisKing
No they weren’t. Karlsson wanted a lockout proof contract, see Jonathan Tavares, and the Senators would not give it to him. Karlsson in my opinion is the best player in the league and what the Senators got for him is a joke. The Sharks robbed the Senators on that deal. |
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No they weren’t. Karlsson wanted a lockout proof contract, see Jonathan Tavares, and the Senators would not give it to him. Karlsson in my opinion is the best player in the league and what the Senators got for him is a joke. The Sharks robbed the Senators on that deal. - TheUltimateJet
I agree with all of this |
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I’m being trolled, and I know it. It’s just in my programming to be #triggered by it - Rexypoo
I am not you Rexy and I don’t troll people. I believe in what I write. |
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I am not you Rexy and I don’t troll people. I believe in what I write. - TheUltimateJet
You deadass think Trouba won’t get you more than a 7th rounder right now? |
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On the bright side:
-Myers has been pretty, pretty, pretty good lately
-Niku is to passing what Ryan Reynolds is to humour. Not the best, but damn close, and more likeable than most
-Appleton is legit, to me at least
-Tanev has been the best Jet forward of 2019, which I mean as a huge compliment to him, and a massive middle finger to the rest of the roster |
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Based on this I wish we had traded Trouba at the 20 game mark. The man has been declining ever since To the point we will be lucky to get a 7th rounder for him. - TheUltimateJet
Ultimate. Definitely some serious exaggeration there. Trouba was definitely worth more last year and his stock has dropped off a bit. In the eyes of a lot of fans Buff is still top dog and then Morrisey. Myers in the last 20 games has also surpassed Trouba. However, as a still solid defenseman , he's still likely still worth a 1st, a prospect, and a player.
Edit: I'll add one caveat here. Trouba /( and agent) 's demands do hurt his trade value somewhat. |
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On the bright side:
-Myers has been pretty, pretty, pretty good lately
-Niku is to passing what Ryan Reynolds is to humour. Not the best, but damn close, and more likeable than most
-Appleton is legit, to me at least
-Tanev has been the best Jet forward of 2019, which I mean as a huge compliment to him, and a massive middle finger to the rest of the roster - Rexypoo
Well , that probably took a lot of courage for you to say that Rexy so I'll applaud you for growing up somewhat .
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Ultimate. Definitely some serious exaggeration there. Trouba was definitely worth more last year and his stock has dropped off a bit. In the eyes of a lot of fans Buff is still top dog and then Morrisey. Myers in the last 20 games has also surpassed Trouba. However, as a still solid defenseman , he's still likely still worth a 1st, a prospect, and a player.
Edit: I'll add one caveat here. Trouba /( and agent) 's demands do hurt his trade value somewhat. - jetsnation
Jetsnation I was just messing with Rexypoo, figured the kid needed to taste his own medicine. |
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No they weren’t. Karlsson wanted a lockout proof contract, see Jonathan Tavares, and the Senators would not give it to him. Karlsson in my opinion is the best player in the league and what the Senators got for him is a joke. The Sharks robbed the Senators on that deal. - TheUltimateJet It's hard to argue that Sens didn't lose the trade when you trade a guy like Karlsson -- that said, it's the owner who screwed us over. The GM did what he could, fans can't do anything.
It's still early to say it's a "joke". The Sens could get 2...1st rounders++ |
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It's hard to argue that Sens didn't lose the trade when you trade a guy like Karlsson -- that said, it's the owner who screwed us over. The GM did what he could, fans can't do anything.
It's still early to say it's a "joke". The Sens could get 2...1st rounders++ - AlfieisKing
Reports now seem to say Vegas and Colorado not making a big move at deadline. If it’s only Nashville, Calgary and Winnipeg who are in on your big two, I dont suspect you’ll get the huge payment you desire. Just my opinion |
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Scheifele ice time - 21:29 |
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With three days off, really hoping we here about some new lines at practice |
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With three days off, really hoping we here about some new lines at practice - Ross77
That’s just wishful thinking! |
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On the bright side:
-Myers has been pretty, pretty, pretty good lately
-Niku is to passing what Ryan Reynolds is to humour. Not the best, but damn close, and more likeable than most
-Appleton is legit, to me at least
-Tanev has been the best Jet forward of 2019, which I mean as a huge compliment to him, and a massive middle finger to the rest of the roster - Rexypoo
Late to the party........was at the game and come back to t 5 f------g pages of trade delerium.
I had to repost this. Good thing Myers, Tanev, Chairot, Broissot, came to play tonite. Jets need a trade injection. |
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What ever happened to Maurices f--------g blender? He never had a problem getting the blender out before?
The penalties, jeeez, 7 penalties, 2 double minors, 1 for playing the puck while still in the box?
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Very weird blog/thread today. First Peter goes off the deep end with his bizarro world trade proposals, and then Rexy essentially admits he was wrong on Myers and Tanev's play. I had to take a look out the window and see if there were pigs flying by.
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according to HNIC, Stone + Duchene trade is on. Nashville and Winnipeg linked |
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Very weird blog/thread today. First Peter goes off the deep end with his bizarro world trade proposals, and then Rexy essentially admits he was wrong on Myers and Tanev's play. I had to take a look out the window and see if there were pigs flying by.
- jetsnation
I’ve said before that I love Tanev! I just don’t want him anywhere but on my 4th line at 5v5, and don’t want to pay him more than the 30 replacements we can sign in free agency. If he signed a freakin 8 year, 1mil per deal, I’d be fine with it.
That said, still don’t sign Myers |
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Late to the party........was at the game and come back to t 5 f------g pages of trade delerium.
I had to repost this. Good thing Myers, Tanev, Chairot, Broissot, came to play tonite. Jets need a trade injection. - CharlieDog
Hey now, I think 7 was ass again. Don’t go putting Chiarot in my mouth.
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With three days off, really hoping we here about some new lines at practice - Ross77
Nope. Same 3 forward pairings with a revolving door of LWs, and a concerningly lucky 4th line. Like, Lemieux sacrificing a small child for that shooting percentage is not totally out of the realm of possibility. |
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I’ve said before that I love Tanev! I just don’t want him anywhere but on my 4th line at 5v5, and don’t want to pay him more than the 30 replacements we can sign in free agency. If he signed a freakin 8 year, 1mil per deal, I’d be fine with it.
That said, still don’t sign Myers - Rexypoo
If you think Tanev is on the 4th line then so is your beloved Perreault. However, the actual fact is that Tanev has been on the 3rd line for the last year and a half.
Tanev will get minimum $2.5 in free agency because that's what he's worth. You can take that to the bank. Jets might be able to sign him for somewhat less than that if he wants to stay.
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If you think Tanev is on the 4th line then so is your beloved Perreault. However, the actual fact is that Tanev has been on the 3rd line for the last year and a half.
Tanev will get minimum $2.5 in free agency because that's what he's worth. You can take that to the bank. Jets might be able to sign him for somewhat less than that if he wants to stay. - jetsnation
All of what you just said is indicative of an idiotic coach. Perreault should be stapled to Laine until he’s hit 40 goals. No excuse for Maurice wasting Perreault on Tanev and Lowry (non-shooters).
Tanev has been on an NHL 3rd line, yes, but he’s next to players better than he is always. He’ll get paid, but not by us. It would be a huge mistake to overpay for an easily replaceable asset just because he’s chaotic and fun |
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Hey guys, just chiming in from as a fan of sens and jets. I think the OP is too high a price, UNLESS stone is signed as part of the trade. I get his idea of trading connor for stone, to not have to hand the big contract to connor, instead giving it to stone. But there is very little chance of connor ++. That being said, guys saying vesalainen, niku roslovic are untouchable.. .well stone is currently 20x the player as those guys. It's similar to adding a wheeler or scheifele to your roster, either as a rental or long term solution.
I've said before it doesn't make sense to go after stone, as the jets already have 4 excellent top 6 wingers. They need to do like last year, and go for the C in duchene. Again, is a adding a 1st line player to an already stacked team. And to do that it's going to cost something you don't want to lose. That's how it works. If you don't want the players, why would anyone else? Why don't the sens toss you Smith, Englund and a 1st for laine? Because that's not how it works (forget the age and contract issue gaps)
If the top package the jets offer is Roslovic, petan 1st, dorion calls our good friends the preds, and says, we are sending X here unless you want to beat that. They instantly can do better by including tolvanen, a far better prospect than vesalainen.
The sens are also in a unique situation where they are selling multiple top players to direct rivals. If the jets get stone, then nashville is pressured to get duchene. If those teams do that, now calgary wants dzingel. Or simmonds, or panarin. Bottom line there is big fish out there, and the jets can't afford to do nothing with the roster they have in place. There are enough buyers for each player as well. Likely the first team to make the move, sets the price, and it likely only goes up from there, as each team after will be playing catchup. Very unique situation. And I truly hope 1 of duchene or stone come to winnipeg, so I can keep watching and cheering them on, as they are both fantastic players |
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