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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 16 @ 12:04 PM ET
Trades are coming....

Saw on the Tweets that Edmonton and Vancouver are working on a deal, something along the lines of Gagner for Spooner.

- DarthKane


Then Stan flips AdB and reunites Kane with Gagner?
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 16 @ 12:11 PM ET
Then Stan flips AdB and reunites Kane with Gagner?
- HawkintheD



Plus a 5 year extension with NTC for Gagne
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

Feb 16 @ 12:17 PM ET
Trades are coming....

Saw on the Tweets that Edmonton and Vancouver are working on a deal, something along the lines of Gagner for Spooner.

- DarthKane


Why TF would two Canadian teams make an in-division trade for two star players
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:21 PM ET
Gagner for Spooner done.

Now that the BIG dominoes have fallen, we should see the 2nd tier of Stone, Duchesne, etc moving.

Brace yourselves!!!!
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:24 PM ET
Gagner for Spooner done.

Now that the BIG dominoes have fallen, we should see the 2nd tier of Stone, Duchesne, etc moving.

Brace yourselves!!!!

- hawk35


Rumor outta Ottawa is Duchesne offered 8x8. Not my first choice....but if he wanted 8x8 from the Hawks, he is 28 now...just turned 28. That takes him to 36 or 37.

Any interest?? Toews...Duchesne...Strome down the middle??

Just spit-balling......
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
Then Stan flips AdB and reunites Kane with Gagner?
- HawkintheD


That would be the smart thing to do.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
Rumor outta Ottawa is Duchesne offered 8x8. Not my first choice....but if he wanted 8x8 from the Hawks, he is 28 now...just turned 28. That takes him to 36 or 37.

Any interest?? Toews...Duchesne...Strome down the middle??

Just spit-balling......

- hawk35

I think DeBrincat-Strome are going to be the second pair duo for years to come. I don't think it makes sense to bring in a 2C.

The team needs a 3C (an upgrade over AA). Guys like Eric Staal make a lot of sense on a short-term deal if the 'Hawks are ready to contend as soon as next season.
SaadBeast
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.28.2015

Feb 16 @ 12:28 PM ET
And that is exactly what they should do. They need a number 1 dman and he could be the guy.

They guy to move is Murphy

Then go -
Gus & EK
Keith & Joki
Koekkoek & Seabs & Dahlstrom

- PatShart


So you would Give Karlsson 11 a year (That is what he is looking for) for a guy who doesn't play defense and you call him a #1 D man. Ok
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:30 PM ET
I think DeBrincat-Strome are going to be the second pair duo for years to come. I don't think it makes sense to bring in a 2C.

The team needs a 3C (an upgrade over AA). Guys like Eric Staal make a lot of sense on a short-term deal if the 'Hawks are ready to contend as soon as next season.

- TommyHawk


OK...How about Duchesne as a winger for Toews

Duchesne - Toews - Kane
***** - Strome - DeBrincat
***** - ****** - Saad
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
OK...How about Duchesne as a winger for Toews

Duchesne - Toews - Kane
***** - Strome - DeBrincat
***** - ****** - Saad

- hawk35

I think if the Hawks are pursuing a top-six winger, I really, really like Stone as a better compliment.

He's a Marian Hossa-lite.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
I think if the Hawks are pursuing a top-six winger, I really, really like Stone as a better compliment.

He's a Marian Hossa-lite.

- TommyHawk


Absolutely agreed. Not a big fan of Duchesne. Just thought if the rumor of 8 million was out there, that is a very reasonable amount for a 2nd line center or top line winger who will get you a point a game or more.
I think Stone will want closer to 10. And Karlsson 11 or 11.5.

So, if we were to add a piece going forward long term, I kinda like the 8 million figure to give us a little more CAP space to address other needs...
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Feb 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
More trading card stuff. Panarin is not coming to Chicago. He's looking to get paid and the Hawks can't afford him, especially with the concerns on defense and other resigns coming up. Simply not practical to be discussing him. Hawks are having NO PROBLEM scoring from their top two lines. Build the defense and add a solid depth center.
- kwolf68

My current thinking is along the same lines. Panarin doesn't fill a need. He would be a nice to have but not a must have. Focus first on fillilng the most haves and think about nice to haves if cap space remains (and slots are available).

The team needs defense, both D men and forwards who can play well in their own end, and a solid 200-foot 3C. The 3rd line should be filled by guys who can net 35-45 points apiece.

It's going to be frustrating if Kampf is a 3rd liner next year. It's fine this year with the lack of depth. He has the makings of a stellar 4C so round out the 3rd line to allow him to slot properly.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
I liked Panarin a lot while he was here, but give me Mark Stone over him for next year if the Hawks swing big for a forward.
- Justin Lowe

Stone is the better all round player and he won't pack up his gear on April 15 and go home to Magnitigorsk when the NHL paycheques stop. I will puke if Bowman resigns Panarin at big numbers.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Jets traded Patrick Laine's lazy ass to Ottawa for Stone if they can get him under contract.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Feb 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
Would someone who watches Rockford please tell me who is more NHL ready between Gilbert and Hillman? Also, do either have a second-pairing ceiling, or are they 3rd pair/AHL dmen?
- tvetter

Hillman had the edge during the first few months of the season but Gilbert has pulled ahead. Gilbert's game reminds me of what we're seeing in Koekkoek but more consistently physical than Slater. Either way, Hillman and Gilbert are nothing more than 3rd pair and likely 6/7 types.

Of any Hog defenders, Carlsson is the only one who could potentially play above 3rd pair. If he continues his positive development, I could see him potentially pairing up with Boqvist to provide balance with one offensive wizard and a defensive stalwart. They have familiarity with one another having been partners on Swedish junior teams.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Rumor outta Ottawa is Duchesne offered 8x8. Not my first choice....but if he wanted 8x8 from the Hawks, he is 28 now...just turned 28. That takes him to 36 or 37.

Any interest?? Toews...Duchesne...Strome down the middle??

Just spit-balling......

- hawk35


good for him...for a guy who has 2-3 strt down years...but no thanks
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Feb 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Please. Just say no to any further marquee acquisitions. Too many holes to fill.
stanleyhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Pearisburg, VA
Joined: 07.13.2014

Feb 16 @ 1:41 PM ET
You mentioned Caggiula - why is he here because of another horrid UFA signing by Stan in Manning.
- DK002



Maybe Stan signed Manning specifically to have him available to trade should Caggiula become available. Long range planning.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 16 @ 2:03 PM ET
Stone is the better all round player and he won't pack up his gear on April 15 and go home to Magnitigorsk when the NHL paycheques stop. I will puke if Bowman resigns Panarin at big numbers.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Jets traded Patrick Laine's lazy ass to Ottawa for Stone if they can get him under contract.

- RickJ


Saad Toews Stone
Caggiula AA Kane
Cat Strome Kahun
? Kampf?

That would be interesting next year, and i put Saad on line 1 because of how productive he was with Hossa and Toews
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Feb 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
One of the beauty things about Mark Stone is he is but 26 years old. He may just keep inching toward Hossa-level performance.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Saad Toews Stone
Caggiula AA Kane
Cat Strome Kahun
? Kampf?

That would be interesting next year, and i put Saad on line 1 because of how productive he was with Hossa and Toews

- BetweenTheDots

Since they are both from Winnipeg I'm sure the centerman on that Stone line might know something about him.

Not likely to happen though, the Jets will be all over Stone.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 16 @ 2:32 PM ET
So with Koekkoek getting all this love in the press does it mean he starts again tonight?
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
Hillman had the edge during the first few months of the season but Gilbert has pulled ahead. Gilbert's game reminds me of what we're seeing in Koekkoek but more consistently physical than Slater. Either way, Hillman and Gilbert are nothing more than 3rd pair and likely 6/7 types.

Of any Hog defenders, Carlsson is the only one who could potentially play above 3rd pair. If he continues his positive development, I could see him potentially pairing up with Boqvist to provide balance with one offensive wizard and a defensive stalwart. They have familiarity with one another having been partners on Swedish junior teams.

- AEL_Fox

Thanks for this! How’s Jokiharju doing? His arrival seems to have coincided with more victories.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Feb 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
Hillman had the edge during the first few months of the season but Gilbert has pulled ahead. Gilbert's game reminds me of what we're seeing in Koekkoek but more consistently physical than Slater. Either way, Hillman and Gilbert are nothing more than 3rd pair and likely 6/7 types.

Of any Hog defenders, Carlsson is the only one who could potentially play above 3rd pair. If he continues his positive development, I could see him potentially pairing up with Boqvist to provide balance with one offensive wizard and a defensive stalwart. They have familiarity with one another having been partners on Swedish junior teams.

- AEL_Fox

Thanks for the update, you're the guy I was hoping to hear from!
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 16 @ 2:56 PM ET
More trading card stuff. Panarin is not coming to Chicago. He's looking to get paid and the Hawks can't afford him, especially with the concerns on defense and other resigns coming up. Simply not practical to be discussing him. Hawks are having NO PROBLEM scoring from their top two lines. Build the defense and add a solid depth center.
- kwolf68


For sure

When I was younger i used to dream up all kinds of scenarios.

If u r really into that sort of stuff then check into the strat o matic type games or the card dice games with matrices. In the late 1980's Face Off was an accurate game if you replayed an NHL season. It was created and sold way back then by Bob Frost of Bloomington Il. He was an IL State grad with a few young kids and he did programming IT work. I can attest the veracity of the game back then as I was in a league for a few years. We drafted traded and what a pain to play all those games.

ADD years later I heard a computer could play the games for you. But you loose the home rink coaching strategy shift by shift.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Feb 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
So with the hawks trying to make the playoffs, does that stop recalls, unless (knock on wood) there is an injury? Or will there still be a cup of coffee or two to some young guys?
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