lol...Point, Johnson, Palat, Coyle. Montour….offer sheets...


LOL!!!!

Deadline Day: "The Buffalo Sabres have traded Nathan Bowl-u to Las Vegas for a conditional 5th Round pick and have promoted Scott Wilson to their NHL club"

moves...

So here is a theoretical ideal

Say they move a few players out and they get another teams 2nd

Would it be smarter for them to move the 2nd to Carolina to get their 3rd back?

You know if they actually plan on offersheeting someone???

Can you imagine the GMs panic if they see a team trade to get their original pick back just so that team could send out an offer sheet?
- Stripes77

Theoretically if Botts was actually serious about offer sheeting, which, no one actually is, then yes, you go back to Carolina and give them a 2nd for your 3rd or whatever.

If we would have traded Pu and a 2nd for Skinner and a 3rd Botts would never ever ever be on the hot seat in his entire life!


- Stripes77

Yeah, good point
Once ya look at it like that, i was crazy to think the 3rd was coming to us
No clue why i had that mixed up?

I think that's the point. If the NHL wants to see offer sheets cause chaos like the fans want, the entire system needs to be restructured, and there needs to be incentives for GMs to (frank) their friends. Because clearly they're not doing that right now.
- TheSabresTaco

Oh i know. I intended for that post to be dripping with sarcasm. No one has an interest in doing anything about it. The PA won't put up a stink because they're protecting the older, established players by colluding with the owners to keep young players' salaries down.

Now if we reach a critical mass of RFA-eligible players outnumbering veteran membership in the PA, that might change, but as soon as players leave the RFA system for the UFA system, they basically say to the next generation: "suck it up, i dealt with it and paid my dues. your turn."

Apparently I missed it by a year. I iz gon' remake a post


Here's what the Sabres can actually do.
$1,339,575 or less (no comp)
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 (2nd)
Over $10,148,302 (4 1sts)

Thanks Fitz, you made it worse.
- TheSabresTaco

Hahaha

We all suck at this

I am glad we are not NHL GMs!!

But seriously lets mess with teams and start signing offer sheets

Here is the full chart

Offer Sheet (AAV) Compensation

$1,339,575 or below None

Over $1,339,575 to $2,029,59 3rd

Over $2,029,59 to $4,059,322 2nd

Over $4,059,322 to $6,088,980 1st, 3rd

Over $6,088,980 to $8,118,641 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Over $8,118,641 to $10,148,302 (2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Over $10,148,302 (4) 1st

lol...Point, Johnson, Palat, Coyle. Montour….


LOL!!!!

Deadline Day: "The Buffalo Sabres have traded Nathan Bowl-u to Las Vegas for a conditional 5th Round pick and have promoted Scott Wilson to their NHL club"

moves...
- RippedFuel

I mean, you're right. Point was brought up for imaginary offer sheet talk, Johnson would be an off season cap clearance that the Sabres should be all over, Palat is fine, Coyle is fine, Montour probably isn't going anywhere.

Theoretically if Botts was actually serious about offer sheeting, which, no one actually is, then yes, you go back to Carolina and give them a 2nd for your 3rd or whatever.
- TheSabresTaco

Panic ensues

And I would love every minute of it!

Hahaha

We all suck at this

I am glad we are not NHL GMs!!

But seriously lets mess with teams and start signing offer sheets

Here is the full chart

Offer Sheet (AAV) Compensation

$1,339,575 or below None

Over $1,339,575 to $2,029,59 3rd

Over $2,029,59 to $4,059,322 2nd

Over $4,059,322 to $6,088,980 1st, 3rd

Over $6,088,980 to $8,118,641 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Over $8,118,641 to $10,148,302 (2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd

Over $10,148,302 (4) 1st
- Stripes77

Hey I was right this time...

So here is a theoretical ideal

Say they move a few players out and they get another teams 2nd

Would it be smarter for them to move the 2nd to Carolina to get their 3rd back?

You know if they actually plan on offersheeting someone???

Can you imagine the GMs panic if they see a team trade to get their original pick back just so that team could send out an offer sheet?
- Stripes77

They could send Carolina something at the deadline to get their 2020 3rd back

Maybe Sheary or Larsson/Girgs
Probably have to throw in a lower pick like a 5th or 4th maybe?

Interesting idea Stripes
Let’s do it!
Lol

Panic ensues

And I would love every minute of it!
- Stripes77

We all would. I enjoyed the Shea Weber offer sheet very much. The Vanek offer sheet.. my oh my...

Hey I was right this time...
- TheSabresTaco

Key wording

Apparently I missed it by a year. I iz gon' remake a post


Here's what the Sabres can actually do.
$1,339,575 or less (no comp)
$2,029,660 to $4,059,322 (2nd)
Over $10,148,302 (4 1sts)

Thanks Fitz, you made it worse.
- TheSabresTaco

Blame Skinner, not me!

lol...Point, Johnson, Palat, Coyle. Montour….offer sheets...


LOL!!!!

Deadline Day: "The Buffalo Sabres have traded Nathan Bowl-u to Las Vegas for a conditional 5th Round pick and have promoted Scott Wilson to their NHL club"

moves...
- RippedFuel

We don't have our 2nd so it eliminates some offer sheet offers.

Oh i know. I intended for that post to be dripping with sarcasm. No one has an interest in doing anything about it. The PA won't put up a stink because they're protecting the older, established players by colluding with the owners to keep young players' salaries down.

Now if we reach a critical mass of RFA-eligible players outnumbering veteran membership in the PA, that might change, but as soon as players leave the RFA system for the UFA system, they basically say to the next generation: "suck it up, i dealt with it and paid my dues. your turn."
- jcragcrumple

This is the way the league is going. The Milan Lucic, Kyle Okposo, Brad Richards et al contracts are a dying breed. You'll still have the Rangers paying Scott Gomezs of the world 10 million, but other than that.. there's a shift moving through, and there's a huge amount of RFAs, and Ottawa's prime players, hitting the market. Thanks, Ottawa.

We all would. I enjoyed the Shea Weber offer sheet very much. The Vanek offer sheet.. my oh my...
- TheSabresTaco

I actually said we should take the picks for Vanek

Totally understand why we didn’t though
What a freaking nightmare
That was right after i joined Hockeybuzz
Still a few guys on here from back in the day
It was a really depressing July
Ugh

We don't have our 2nd so it eliminates some offer sheet offers.
- sabresfan69

You're (frank)ing with us right?

I actually said we should take the picks for Vanek

Totally understand why we didn’t though
What a freaking nightmare
That was right after i joined Hockeybuzz
Still a few guys on here from back in the day
It was a really depressing July
Ugh
- jdfitz77

Had Drury and Briere not just walked I bet Vanek would have been an Oiler

This is the way the league is going. The Milan Lucic, Kyle Okposo, Brad Richards et al contracts are a dying breed. You'll still have the Rangers paying Scott Gomezs of the world 10 million, but other than that.. there's a shift moving through, and there's a huge amount of RFAs, and Ottawa's prime players, hitting the market. Thanks, Ottawa.
- TheSabresTaco

I think we are still paying CoHo for another year or 2 also
Pretty sure it’s only like half a mil per though

You're (frank)ing with us right?
- Stripes77

😂😂😂
He must have skipped the previous page

Problem is, no one's giving up 4 first round picks for an RFA. Not even Kucherov. For everything else, the GM will likely have no problem matching, and all you did was irritate that GM. Either that, or GMs would rather put a package together than use their 1sts. The opposing GM isn't going to let a guy go over a measly 3rd or 2nd rounder.

Had Drury and Briere not just walked I bet Vanek would have been an Oiler
- Stripes77

Most likely right sir

U were around back then, right?
Man did that freaking suck

That was as depressed as i ever was as a sports fan

You're (frank)ing with us right?
- Stripes77

🤦‍♂️

If the McDavids beat the Hurricanes tonight, and the sabres win, the Sabres leapfrog Carolina with 1 game still in hand

I think we are still paying CoHo for another year or 2 also
Pretty sure it’s only like half a mil per though
- jdfitz77

4 more seasons around 800k. A non factor for anyone not named Stan Bowman.

Problem is, no one's giving up 4 first round picks for an RFA. Not even Kucherov. For everything else, the GM will likely have no problem matching, and all you did was irritate that GM. Either that, or GMs would rather put a package together than use their 1sts. The opposing GM isn't going to let a guy go over a measly 3rd or 2nd rounder.
- TheSabresTaco

Some teams are ripe to be picked with an offersheet, their cap space is going to be extremely tight

Tampa and Toronto for one are going to be very tight.

A first, second, and third offer 6-8 million could do some real damage to a team