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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
Nobody will ever be able to convince me a fourth line guy, who hasn’t seen very much PP (if any) in his career, with the right choice as an extra attacker, with an arsenal of players still on the bench.
- SuperSchennBros


Well, Giroux et. al. can't play the entire 2:30, the need to be spelled. So you need 10-12 guys total.

I'm not saying Raffl was the right choice for the 6th man, but they needed 2 goals and couldn't leave the same 6 out there for the entire rest of the game, so they needed someone. I would have gone with;

Simmonds-G-Couturier-Voracek-Ghost-Sanheim
JvR-Patrick-Lindblom-Konecny-Provorov-...Gudas?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 1:18 PM ET
Well, Giroux et. al. can't play the entire 2:30, the need to be spelled. So you need 10-12 guys total.

I'm not saying Raffl was the right choice for the 6th man, but they needed 2 goals and couldn't leave the same 6 out there for the entire rest of the game, so they needed someone. I would have gone with;

Simmonds-G-Couturier-Voracek-Ghost-Sanheim
JvR-Patrick-Lindblom-Konecny-Provorov-...Gudas?

- jmatchett383

I would have gone with the same thing they’ve been going with all season, which also worked on Thursday against the kings.

Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, JvR, Ghost...with Couturier as the extra attacker. I guess it wouldn’t have mattered because Ghost was struggling that much to get point shots through.

Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and even Laughton are guys I like as 6 attackers head of Raffl.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
The only thing a replay would show is that the whistle blew. It's official error, but if you do replay of that then we all need screens on our seats for every call and noncall in the game.
- bodiva88


What we really need is to abolish all video review.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 12 @ 1:29 PM ET
I would have gone with the same thing they’ve been going with all season, which also worked on Thursday against the kings.

Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, JvR, Ghost...with Couturier as the extra attacker. I guess it wouldn’t have mattered because Ghost was struggling that much to get point shots through.

Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and even Laughton are guys I like as 6 attackers head of Raffl.

- SuperSchennBros


Right, but against LA, they only needed 1 goal and they were out for less than 2 minutes. I'd have to watch again, but I think they had Hart out for over 2:30, so you can't just keep the same 6 on the ice. But yeah, I would have gone wit Laughton as my second unit 6th.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Feb 12 @ 1:30 PM ET
I would have gone with the same thing they’ve been going with all season, which also worked on Thursday against the kings.

Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, JvR, Ghost...with Couturier as the extra attacker. I guess it wouldn’t have mattered because Ghost was struggling that much to get point shots through.

Patrick, Konecny, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and even Laughton are guys I like as 6 attackers head of Raffl.

- SuperSchennBros

I was female doging about Raffl being out there while I was watching. Then it dawned on me that it was the last 5 minutes of the very hard game and a 5 minutes power play. Can't just use 5 or 6 guys or even just the same 10 or 12 guys. They were gassed. Needed someone else for a minute or two. Yeah, all those other guys were on the bench. Perhaps being rested for their next shift. Can't be out there the whole time.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 12 @ 1:31 PM ET
What we really need is to abolish all video review.
- Scoob


-Get rid of video review
-Get rid of sticks
-Elongate length of rink to 120 yards.
-Replace ice with turf and skates with cletes
-Replace cylindrical puck with oblong pigskin
-Allow players to pick up the puck and carry or throw it.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Feb 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
-Get rid of video review
-Get rid of sticks
-Elongate length of rink to 120 yards.
-Replace ice with turf and skates with cletes
-Replace cylindrical puck with oblong pigskin
-Allow players to pick up the puck and carry or throw it.

- jmatchett383

You forgot the part where they would only actually play for 5 or 10 seconds out of every minute.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
When is this buttholes phone hearing?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 12 @ 1:36 PM ET
-Get rid of video review
-Get rid of sticks
-Elongate length of rink to 120 yards.
-Replace ice with turf and skates with cletes
-Replace cylindrical puck with oblong pigskin
-Allow players to pick up the puck and carry or throw it.

- jmatchett383



You lost me after 120 yard rink.



jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 12 @ 1:40 PM ET
You lost me after 120 yard rink.


- MBFlyerfan


I think the entire population of Finland is on the rink at the same time there.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 12 @ 1:42 PM ET
I think the entire population of Finland is on the rink at the same time there.
- jmatchett383



That could be...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
Well, Giroux et. al. can't play the entire 2:30, the need to be spelled. So you need 10-12 guys total.

I'm not saying Raffl was the right choice for the 6th man, but they needed 2 goals and couldn't leave the same 6 out there for the entire rest of the game, so they needed someone. I would have gone with;

Simmonds-G-Couturier-Voracek-Ghost-Sanheim
JvR-Patrick-Lindblom-Konecny-Provorov-...Gudas?

- jmatchett383



I will speculate that there is a pretty obvious reason why he out Raffl out there.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 12 @ 1:47 PM ET
You lost me after 120 yard rink.


- MBFlyerfan


I love how this sport just incorporates every goofy change I feel like I've heard from people when talking about how to increase offense in hockey over the past 25 years.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Feb 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
I will speculate that there is a pretty obvious reason why he out Raffl out there.
- MJL

That's twice now you have made basicly the same cryptic comment about Raffls use last night. Why do you do this? Why not just voice your opinion. Is this so you can wait for some one to respond then you can take the opposite position or just use more vague rebuttals. Dude just make your point. No need for head games.
EDIT: Sorry guys, couldn't help myself. I'm out!
Larryfyffe
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.28.2019

Feb 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
He’s a repeat offender. Been fined for spearing
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 12 @ 1:58 PM ET
-Get rid of video review
-Get rid of sticks
-Elongate length of rink to 120 yards.
-Replace ice with turf and skates with cletes
-Replace cylindrical puck with oblong pigskin
-Allow players to pick up the puck and carry or throw it.

- jmatchett383


The NFL is unwatchable now with the way they review every play. Unwatchable.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:59 PM ET
make the trades Fletch this team isn't cut out for the playoffs
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:01 PM ET
You lost me after 120 yard rink.


- MBFlyerfan


um...wtf is that?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:02 PM ET
um...wtf is that?
- Scoob



Wait! You have never seen Bandy played before!?


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
Wait! You have never seen Bandy played before!?
- MBFlyerfan


Nope - never even heard of it. And when I saw your post I honestly thought it was some kind of video game clip.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Nope - never even heard of it. And when I saw your post I honestly thought it was some kind of video game clip.
- Scoob



I remember the first time I saw it I was flabbergasted. I thought it was some kind of joke.

I think it would be better with a puck and hockey sticks. Its more like field hockey on ice.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
What we really need is to abolish all video review.
- Scoob

I don't mind video review for a goal call. How many times do they not realize a puck went all the way in and bounced off the back of the net because it's so fast and sounded like it hit the crossbar. Too often for those goals not to count.

But I've still never seen the Kane goal go in.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 12 @ 2:15 PM ET
You lost me after 120 yard rink.


- MBFlyerfan


If this had an overtime, I'd still make them go 3 on 3. Then we'll see who's in shape.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:16 PM ET
I don't mind video review for a goal call. How many times do they not realize a puck went all the way in and bounced off the back of the net because it's so fast and sounded like it hit the crossbar. Too often for those goals not to count.

But I've still never seen the Kane goal go in.

- bodiva88

i hate how coaches just default to challenge goals it gets very boring and ruins the flow of the game
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:18 PM ET
That's twice now you have made basicly the same cryptic comment about Raffls use last night. Why do you do this? Why not just voice your opinion. Is this so you can wait for some one to respond then you can take the opposite position or just use more vague rebuttals. Dude just make your point. No need for head games.
EDIT: Sorry guys, couldn't help myself. I'm out!

- jaws1955



My apologies, not my intent. In my opinion, some coaches and I believe Gordon is doing this, use ice time in certain situations to reward players for the way they play. Raffl smartly baited a player with a known issue to try and draw a penalty. Raffl isn't a player that normally rabbit punches players in the back of the head. Gordon gave him PP time there for drawing the penalty and taking a stick to the head for the team. It's a method of team building.
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