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TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 3 @ 3:01 PM ET
Sam Reinhart from October 3rd 2017 to December 31st 2017 on “his own”

38 games played

6 5 on 5 points - Zemgus Girgensons had 7 Jordan Nolan had 5

3 5 on 5 goals - Benoit Pouliot has 4


- sbroads24

That’s what I remember
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:02 PM ET
Ah, pesky facts
- sbroads24

I am sure you are beating off to that

good for you
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:03 PM ET
That’s what I remember
- TheHank

again apples and oranges

casey and tage get pp time too

piss on the one that produces on the pp, and praise the ones that can't

you troll

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 3:03 PM ET
That’s what I remember
- TheHank

Reinhart was worse than Casey and Tage actually, but Reinhart remained on PP1
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:04 PM ET
He had a 4 game pointless streak this year and last year.

He had a 5 and 7 game pointless streak his rookie year.

- kingcong39


The longest Eichel has ever gone without a point is 5 games.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
The longest Eichel has ever gone without a point is 5 games.
- kingcong39

how is his playoff production?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
I can't do the stats stuff it bores the hell out of me and I just like watching the games.

But here's what I see.

Tage Thompson is too talented to play in the AHL. His skill set already is above the AHL level of play, it just isn't fast enough for the NHL level of play. So to develop meaningfully, he has to gain more NHL experience. Also, his shot is like a chimp with a handgun: very very dangerous, but totally unreliable. That's why he can have 13 shot opportunities in a game and still go scoreless.

Reading too many posts on the subject for too many years leads me to believe that people's take on Sam Reinhart is entirely dependent on whether the poster presumes that he was supposed to be a good hockey player drafted in a bad year, or a franchise defining player. Everybody seems to agree he is a good hockey player. Some people don't think that's enough. The item I will note is that on the top line, Sam produces pretty impressive points. Whether you think that is enough or not, it's true. When Tage was on the top line, he did NOT produce.

I'm totally unclear why Casey Mittlestat hasn't done more on the score sheet. He makes good plays regularly. But he hasn't cashed yet. And I don't see the same kind of set up passes from him that I see from Sam, so I'm less likely to blame Casey's linemates. I think Pachla is right and he is still learning that things he could do at Minnesota and in high school aren't going to work in this league. For me, Casey could use some time in the AHL.

FWIW. OLD GUY EYE TEST ONLY>
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 3 @ 3:07 PM ET
again apples and oranges

casey and tage get pp time too

piss on the one that produces on the pp, and praise the ones that can't

you troll

- homiedclown

Lighten up a bit. His numbers last year in a similar spot in the lineup as Casey’s this year are very similar. It was also sams 3rd year in the league. I think it’s a very fair comparison. I didn’t even take a side here. I’m not one to argue against facts.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 3 @ 3:08 PM ET
how is his playoff production?
- homiedclown


That is a fantastic example of moving the goal posts on a Super Bowl Sunday. Well done.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 3:09 PM ET
That is a fantastic example of moving the goal posts on a Super Bowl Sunday. Well done.
- kingcong39



Didn’t Matthews have 1 goal in 7 playoff games?
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 3 @ 3:09 PM ET


Didn’t Matthews have 1 goal in 7 playoff games?

- sbroads24

That’s not good?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
That’s not good?
- TheHank

Wasn’t he criticized heavily after his series against Washington? Unjustifiably too
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
Nah, he made a very good comparison to how Reinhart couldn’t produce points on a third line with no help, but you have no good retort so you’re just going to ignore it
- sbroads24


I thought wisdom comes with age ? I guess not. Next time I pick a different player to compare. Maybe Max Domi. The scrub who could only score 5 goals last year with only 4 of them being on a goalie. Can you believe the Habs traded for that scrub ?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 3 @ 3:14 PM ET
If you wanted Mitts to succeed as a 2C this year, he needed either Sam or Skinner with him. Expecting him to carry Sheary and Okposo was never fair.
- Lunaion


Hey man you don’t have to convince me.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:15 PM ET
I thought wisdom comes with age ? I guess not. Next time I pick a different player to compare. Maybe Max Domi. The scrub who could only score 5 goals last year with only 4 of them being on a goalie. Can you believe the Habs traded for that scrub ?
- Pegullaville

I think he had 4 empty netters, beat a goalie once
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 3 @ 3:16 PM ET
it's impossible to have a conversation with you

reinhart has never performed as pathetic as these 2


this conversation has nothing to do with sam reinhart

it's all about the failure of casey and tag, which adds up to 1/3 of our middle 6, and our lack of secondary scoring


when you want to talk about this topic, tage and casey

chime in

- homiedclown


Whether I compare Thompson and Mitts with Reinahrts first 40 games last year or Max Domi’s 82 what difference does it make. Put a player in a position to succeed and they produce.
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Feb 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
I am sure you are beating off to that

good for you

- homiedclown

I don't understand some posters here?

They just have to be right at all costs.

That's a symptom.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
Lighten up a bit. His numbers last year in a similar spot in the lineup as Casey’s this year are very similar. It was also sams 3rd year in the league. I think it’s a very fair comparison. I didn’t even take a side here. I’m not one to argue against facts.
- TheHank

tage has 11 points in 44 games
casey has 16 points in 51 games


what full season did reinhart have less then 30 points?

these 2 combined might hit 35 this season
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
tage has 11 points in 44 games
casey has 16 points in 51 games


what full season did reinhart have less then 30 points?

these 2 combined might hit 35 this season

- homiedclown

What legitimate top 6 player have either of them played with?

How much PP time with Jack, Skinner, Risto, Dahlin have 72 or 37 got?

37 had some to begin the year and that’s how he got on the scoresheet at all because his 5 on5 play was non-existent
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
how is his playoff production?
- homiedclown


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
Whether I compare Thompson and Mitts with Reinahrts first 40 games last year or Max Domi’s 82 what difference does it make. Put a player in a position to succeed and they produce.
- Pegullaville

but they are 2 of our middle 6

playing with erod who has above average production for the last 2 seasons of any 3rd liner


sheary, who did have 41 goals in the last 2 seasons

maybe it is all coaching

I think it's somewhere in the middle
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Feb 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
I can't do the stats stuff it bores the hell out of me and I just like watching the games.

But here's what I see.

Tage Thompson is too talented to play in the AHL. His skill set already is above the AHL level of play, it just isn't fast enough for the NHL level of play. So to develop meaningfully, he has to gain more NHL experience. Also, his shot is like a chimp with a handgun: very very dangerous, but totally unreliable. That's why he can have 13 shot opportunities in a game and still go scoreless.

Reading too many posts on the subject for too many years leads me to believe that people's take on Sam Reinhart is entirely dependent on whether the poster presumes that he was supposed to be a good hockey player drafted in a bad year, or a franchise defining player. Everybody seems to agree he is a good hockey player. Some people don't think that's enough. The item I will note is that on the top line, Sam produces pretty impressive points. Whether you think that is enough or not, it's true. When Tage was on the top line, he did NOT produce.

I'm totally unclear why Casey Mittlestat hasn't done more on the score sheet. He makes good plays regularly. But he hasn't cashed yet. And I don't see the same kind of set up passes from him that I see from Sam, so I'm less likely to blame Casey's linemates. I think Pachla is right and he is still learning that things he could do at Minnesota and in high school aren't going to work in this league. For me, Casey could use some time in the AHL.

FWIW. OLD GUY EYE TEST ONLY>

- Der Kaiser

Very well expressed observations Sir.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
What legitimate top 6 player have either of them played with?


- sbroads24

lets talk about top 9 production before we worry about top 6
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 3 @ 3:20 PM ET
how is his playoff production?
- homiedclown


Eichel was more noticeable then Matthews in last years playoffs lol.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 3 @ 3:22 PM ET
I don't understand some posters here?

They just have to be right at all costs.

That's a symptom.

- Over50

with young players, it's nice to see growth and development during the course of a season

hope for next year

I don't see it


again maybe it's coaching

they had to great vet berglund to help them out, didn't work
e-rod, nope
sheary, nope
okposo, nope

it's very frustrating


maybe phil needs to go

but what if the same happens next season?
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