I agree, good post.

Tage and Casey need to have 82 points combined or more per season next year and beyond.
For the playoffs
- Boss34

casey was drafted to be a difference maker
tage was brought in to be an upgrade for our top 9

tage has pouliot like numbers in year 2 and casey is taking longer to adjust to the nhl


looking back, perhaps they both should have started the season in rochester


they both show glimpses, but sadly to far between long stretches of nothing

Thompson is playing with a center who has 0 goals in 34 games, a guy we just waived, and Pominville who had 1 goal in 2 months until this week.

He should produce on his own I guess?
- sbroads24

Mitts needs to carry the entire bottom 9 on his back as a rookie you haven’t heard ? Why can’t he produce with Okposo, Elie, Girgensons, Pominville and next to no Power Play time ? Beats me. But hey he gets to play with Sheary and erod for a week and they are the most productive line. Sheary is playing his notacable 5 game streak before he disappears for 20 games and erod had 2 goals in 45 games before playing with Mitts and now has 4 goals in his last 6.

You can blame coaching ......

Lots of guys with nhl experience are not performing to projected point totals.

Sobotka
Okposo
Girgs
- Boss34

add sheary, pommer to that list

pretty much everyone not on the top line

e-rod has picked it up a bit

Mitts needs to carry the entire bottom 9 on his back as a rookie you haven’t heard ? Why can’t he produce with Okposo, Elie, Girgensons, Pominville and next to no Power Play time ? Eats me. But hey he gets to play with Sheary and erod for a week and they are most productive line. Sheary is playing his notacable 5 game streak before he disappears for 20 games and erod had 2 goals in 45 games before playing with Mitts and now has 4 goals in his last 6.
- Pegullaville

Reinhart can be at a 30 point pace through 15-20 games yet again as a 22 year old on his second contract getting #1 PP time but it’s his linemates were the problem.

You can’t make this stuff up

I’d love to see what Skinner and Reinahrt do playing with Sobotka, Pominville (without a line centred by Eichel), Okposo, Elie, Girgensons, Larsson, Erod.

Sheary-Mitts-erod has been our best line the last week and a half and Mittelstadt has played his best hockey all year this past week. Imagine adding capable 2nd line players for him to play with.
- Pegullaville

Erod has nothing to do with it? He's not a second line player, but he has played well the past week too.

Maybe the players are sufficient just being utilized wrong?

Coaching:

thompson is no better then last year with the blues

casey is worse then last spring


where is the growth and development?
- homiedclown

Predicting how Casey was going to do this year based on such a small sample size from last year isn't fair.

Many, many guys have had a great 5-6 game debut to their careers.

I don't think a 26 point rookie season, especially given the slugs he plays with, is anything to sneeze at. Last year, a 26 point pace just puts him outside the top 20, as a 19/20 year old.

He just turned 20 years old. He's going to get stronger, smarter, more confident and learn how to be an everyday professional.

Just my opinion.

Mitts needs to carry the entire bottom 9 on his back as a rookie you haven’t heard ? .
- Pegullaville

from what I have seen, they need to move him to the wing

he has played with proven nhl scorers in the middle 6

that line was suppose to lead the secondary scoring

Mitts needs to carry the entire bottom 9 on his back as a rookie you haven’t heard ? Why can’t he produce with Okposo, Elie, Girgensons, Pominville and next to no Power Play time ? Beats me. But hey he gets to play with Sheary and erod for a week and they are the most productive line. Sheary is playing his notacable 5 game streak before he disappears for 20 games and erod had 2 goals in 45 games before playing with Mitts and now has 4 goals in his last 6.
- Pegullaville

Your hate for Rodrigues is a bit much.

It feels like both Casey and Rodrigues are driving that line together while Sheary is along for the ride.

Predicting how Casey was going to do this year based on such a small sample size from last year isn't fair.

Many, many guys have had a great 5-6 game debut to their careers.

I don't think a 26 point rookie season, especially given the slugs he plays with, is anything to sneeze at. Last year, a 26 point pace just puts him outside the top 20, as a 19/20 year old.

He just turned 20 years old. He's going to get stronger, smarter, more confident and learn how to be an everyday professional.

Just my opinion.
- Powerslave

I thought he should have been playing the wing this season personally

a lot to learn in the game


my issues is I don't see the improvement in the last 10 games vs his first 10 games of this season


same for tage


maybe it's coaching
maybe it's lack of chemistry


you see them play a few games and think they are turning the corner, and then revert to being invisible for another 10 game stretch

Your hate for Rodrigues is a bit much.

It feels like both Casey and Rodrigues are driving that line together while Sheary is along for the ride.
- kingcong39

he hates a lot of decent things though

add sheary, pommer to that list

pretty much everyone not on the top line

e-rod has picked it up a bit
- homiedclown

I'm not having a problem with pommer.
36 years old / off to retirement
Hopefully he taught the kids some nhl tricks
Zero pp time

Erod for sure
Sheary too

Strange that everyone is under expectations
Except the jack line

This has to be coaching and systems right?

from what I have seen, they need to move him to the wing

he has played with proven nhl scorers in the middle 6

that line was suppose to lead the secondary scoring
- homiedclown

Sheary scoring goals on Crosby’s wing and being relegated to a point that the Pens traded him for us to take Hunwick off their hands ? That guy ? Or Erod who is playing on a vet minimum contract ? Or are you referring to Okposo or the ghost of Moulson ? The 36 year old Pominville ?

The kid was screwed from the beginning. Could he be better ? Forsure. But playing with an average NHL 2nd line forward would help too.

Your hate for Rodrigues is a bit much.

It feels like both Casey and Rodrigues are driving that line together while Sheary is along for the ride.
- kingcong39

Rodriguez is a perfect 4th line player who can fill in on the 3rd line in case of injury or for a few games. If he is on your 2nd line you are picking top 10.

I'm not having a problem with pommer.
36 years old / off to retirement
Hopefully he taught the kids some nhl tricks
Zero pp time

Erod for sure
Sheary too

Strange that everyone is under expectations
Except the jack line

This has to be coaching and systems right?
- Boss34

or over evaluating the talent or lack of for some of our bottom 9 players

I remember watching the flyers game during the win streak around thanksgiving and thinking this team was turning the corner

instead the team was peaking in november

Maybe the players are sufficient just being utilized wrong?

Coaching:


- washedup20

Good post

Botts and tpegs have to be thinking the same thing at some point.

The pp sucks
The secondary scoring sucks
The veterans have been underperforming
The young guys other then (pilut and dahlin) have been underperforming
The motivation sucks

This has housley written all over it.

Rodriguez is a perfect 4th line player who can fill in on the 3rd line in case of injury or for a few games. If he is on your 2nd line you are picking top 10.
- Pegullaville

e-rod has 43 points in his last 93 nhl games


he is fine as a fixture for the 3rd line when the team is good

Good post

Botts and tpegs have to be thinking the same thing at some point.

The pp sucks
The secondary scoring sucks
The veterans have been underperforming
The young guys other then (pilut and dahlin) have been underperforming
The motivation sucks

This has housley written all over it.
- Boss34

too laid back and leans on vets too much IMO

too laid back and leans on vets too much IMO
- homiedclown

understatement of the 2018-2019 season

or over evaluating the talent or lack of for some of our bottom 9 players

I remember watching the flyers game during the win streak around thanksgiving and thinking this team was turning the corner

instead the team was peaking in november
- homiedclown

I definitely wear a "homer" hat, but some of these guys have regressed.

Sobotka had 30 points last year
Sheary has regressed
Okposo we had hope to regain (pre concussion) form
Erod is finally coming around, but 2 goals in 45 games
Mitts I had high Hope's for

Rodriguez is a perfect 4th line player who can fill in on the 3rd line in case of injury or for a few games. If he is on your 2nd line you are picking top 10.
- Pegullaville

You said Rodrigues is a problem on the team. I disagree with that.

The rest you mentioned obviously are, although to be fair, so are Thompson and Mittelstadt. Difference is Thompson and Mittelstadt are expected to struggle with how young they are.

You said Rodrigues is a problem on the team. I disagree with that.

The rest you mentioned obviously are, although to be fair, so are Thompson and Mittelstadt. Difference is Thompson and Mittelstadt are expected to struggle with how young they are.
- kingcong39

Erod makes literally 1/10th of what Okposo does and has 2 fewer points.

That's the end of the conversation of whether Erod is a problem

You said Rodrigues is a problem on the team. I disagree with that.

The rest you mentioned obviously are, although to be fair, so are Thompson and Mittelstadt. Difference is Thompson and Mittelstadt are expected to struggle with how young they are.
- kingcong39

Rodriguez is a problem due to to the role he’s been put into. I said it in the last post. He’s an elite 4th liner or average 3rd liner. He should be nowhere near this top 6.

tough guy, you are
I havn't brought reinhart up in a month

keep defending failure
- homiedclown

I agree with you and 89, homie.
Samson is certainly not the issue here.
🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I definitely wear a "homer" hat, but some of these guys have regressed.

Sobotka had 30 points last year
Sheary has regressed
Okposo we had hope to regain (pre concussion) form
Erod is finally coming around, but 2 goals in 45 games
Mitts I had high Hope's for
- Boss34

Yes and if those guys were the players they were of 1-2 years ago we aren’t even having this discussion about Mitts and Thompson because they have probably have 10 more points then they do now with still room to grow over the next 31 games.